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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3195 on: April 25, 2015, 06:27:01 AM »
For a Nation, the important tasks are:

1.  Ensure there is enough food for all.
2.  Ensure there is best education for all.
3.  Ensure there is enough jobs for all.  Print money and do infrastructures if needed.
4.  Ensure there is no lagging behind in science and technology.  If behind, others may rob and conquer - making the citizen suffer.
5.  Motivate the Citizens to move to a new paradigm.  Lead-out energy and Flying Saucers are examples.
6.  Promote peace, share knowledge and the Divine Wine.

In the modern world, wealth of nations is technology, technology and technology.

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3196 on: April 25, 2015, 06:34:19 AM »
For a Nation, the important tasks are:

1.  Ensure there is enough food for all.
2.  Ensure there is best education for all.
3.  Ensure there is enough jobs for all.  Print money and do infrastructures if needed.
4.  Ensure there is no lagging behind in science and technology.  If behind, others may rob and conquer - making the citizen suffer.
5.  Motivate the Citizens to move to a new paradigm.  Lead-out energy and Flying Saucers are examples.
6.  Promote peace, share knowledge and the Divine Wine.

In the modern world, wealth of nations is technology, technology and technology.

Lawrence
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Totally wrong Lawrence, you sound like a true Communist.

The ONLY job of any Government is...to provide boarder security protection, protection from an invading force.

Period.

The other items you listed are up to individuals to provide for themselves.

If an individual wants a flying saucer, he has to build one and not ask the Government to give him one for free.  (Free, in this case as in all others, really means at other taxpayer's expense.)

Bill

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3197 on: April 25, 2015, 06:20:01 PM »
Lawrence, I repeat AGAIN: There are no lead out energy.
I post my third demonstration - now with a "gravity assisted lead out energy pendulum".
First demonstration in this video is a loaded pendulum.
Second demonstration in the same video is a non-loaded pendulum.


I use gravity as the "energy boost" - except gavity did not change the beaviour from the experiment done with the pendulum base placed upright (watch the second video as well to compare)


Look closely at the "gravity assisted" version, if you dare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR4kPOX9Vio


The upright version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_d7oIZ0-A0


Let me know if you see any significant difference.


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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3198 on: April 25, 2015, 07:16:39 PM »
Pirate88179, no no, the government has much more job than you said, has to be much bigger. Because the government's function is much wider. It is to make sure that using freedom by one people, doesn't restrict the freedom of another people. Defending country from an outside attack, is only a part of it. Because this is people outside, want to use their freedom the way that it restricts the freedom of the people, in the country.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3199 on: April 25, 2015, 07:40:20 PM »
Pirate88179, no no, the government has much more job than you said, has to be much bigger. Because the government's function is much wider. It is to make sure that using freedom by one people, doesn't restrict the freedom of another people. Defending country from an outside attack, is only a part of it. Because this is people outside, want to use their freedom the way that it restricts the freedom of the people, in the country.

I don't disagree with that.  We have the Constitution that outlines all of what the Government can NOT do. 

My point was to Lawrence, that our Government in the US was never supposed to provide food, healthcare, shelter, water, etc.  The people are supposed to provide that for themselves.  Until FDR came along, that is exactly what the people did.

Now we have 48% of the population living off of the hard work of the rest of us and it sickens me.  My pay has been going down and my taxes are going up and up and up.  My neighbor does not work.  He just got a new car!  (My vehicle is a 1995 with 240,000 miles)  I asked how he could afford that car as I know he does not work, and he said the Gov. just increased his welfare checks to over $3,000/month!  He pays nothing for rent, gets $500/month in food stamps, has free internet with higher speeds than I can afford, a free smart phone with free minutes both data and calling, free healthcare (While I am supposed to pay a fine and have no healthcare) and lives alone like a king while the rest of us pay for it.

He is not disabled, he told me he would rather not work as life is too short.  He said he makes a lot more money now staying home than he ever made by working.  This is just wrong.  We now have millions and millions of folks doing this.

That was my point.  The Government can not provide all of this as it has no money other than what it takes from the rest of us.  We have no business paying people not to work, especially as much as they are getting.

Sorry for the rant but, as you can tell, this pisses me off greatly.  Everyone that is able to should work and carry their own weight.

Bill

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3200 on: April 25, 2015, 10:52:23 PM »
I'm assuming you are in the UK Bill. That's a pretty good graft the neighbor has going there but your beef should be with the Legislators that implemented the benefits scheme, not the neighbor, it's human nature to take advantage of opportunities that will benefit the self, and he's right, life is too short. But we all know it matters not who is in government, the neighbor still gets his benefits. What does that tell you. All the people that voted are OK with it ? Or the system does not respond to voting pressure about the issue ? Or the people don't make it an issue ?

Truth is the way the world is going it is just not possible to employ everybody. Truth is no one should be working for anyone else if they want to be really free. Truth is that the current system needs unemployment to be between 4 and 6% for it to work properly. If the unemployment rate gets too low then there is lots of work and many jobs going but difficult to find workers so the employer loses leverage over the workers, the workers can demand more money and if the employer won't pay the worker can leave. If the Unemployment rate gets too high then the opposite happens which is much more preferable to employers and business and also as a result for government revenue from economic growth.

We should be aiming for zero economic growth which might be sustainable with no lowering of conditions ect. Economy cannot grow forever, so any plan involving economic growth is temporary and lacking.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3201 on: April 25, 2015, 10:58:33 PM »
I'm assuming you are in the UK Bill. That's a pretty good graft the neighbor has going there but your beef should be with the Legislators that implemented the benefits scheme, not the neighbor, it's human nature to take advantage of opportunities that will benefit the self, and he's right, life is too short. But we all know it matters not who is in government, the neighbor still gets his benefits. What does that tell you. All the people that voted are OK with it ? Or the system does not respond to voting pressure about the issue ? Or the people don't make it an issue ?

Truth is the way the world is going it is just not possible to employ everybody. Truth is no one should be working for anyone else if they want to be really free. Truth is that the current system needs unemployment to be between 4 and 6% for it to work properly. If the unemployment rate gets too low then there is lots of work and many jobs going but difficult to find workers so the employer loses leverage over the workers, the workers can demand more money and if the employer won't pay the worker can leave. If the Unemployment rate gets too high then the opposite happens which is much more preferable to employers and business and also as a result for government revenue from economic growth.

We should be aiming for zero economic growth which might be sustainable with no lowering of conditions ect. Economy cannot grow forever, so any plan involving economic growth is temporary and lacking.

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I am in Kentucky, USA.

The average welfare patron here gets $35,000/year in combined benefits.  In Washington, DC that figure climbs to over $50,000/year!!!  All for doing nothing.  I would agree with you about whose fault it is except I was raised to not expect something for nothing and that you had to work to earn what you needed/wanted.  That part of it is their fault.

But, I agree, why is the government taking my money and making me more poor than the folks getting that money? I work every day with no vacation or sick days and no benefits and earn less than half of what this moron is getting for free.  Now the IRS tells me I owe them several thousand dollars which includes fines for not having health insurance?  They already took 30% of my check each payday for taxes but, that is not enough.  My neighbor needs more money, so they will try to make me pay more.  Citizens will not put up with much more of this crap. It could get very bad.

Bill

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3202 on: April 25, 2015, 11:17:32 PM »
It becomes a self feeding problem though because as the cost of living rises for the worker the worker works more, overtime, two jobs ect. to pay the bills, this causes less work for others or economic growth if jobs increase ect.

Truth is the people we elect have no idea how to run the show any other way, they fear the unemployed and the employed so they walk the line and play all sides which leads down a bad path, I think we are past the point of no return and it will only get worse faster.

The U.S. along with all major economies on Earth have huge debts that will never be repaid and the people that loaned them the money don't care either way.

If all the major economies owe money then where is the money and who loaned it to them ?

Name a major economy that runs a national profit any year ?

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Unfortunately when the worker gets paid for his work it is "funny money", at any given time it could become worthless anyway. Market manipulation will always ensure another recession and so forth. The entire system is BS.

I believe our governments are borrowing money that they cannot pay back at almost no interest. The taxpayer in three generations or so will be paying for most of the welfare now so don't feel too bad.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3203 on: April 25, 2015, 11:45:52 PM »
It becomes a self feeding problem though because as the cost of living rises for the worker the worker works more, overtime, two jobs ect. to pay the bills, this causes less work for others or economic growth if jobs increase ect.

Truth is the people we elect have no idea how to run the show any other way, they fear the unemployed and the employed so they walk the line and play all sides which leads down a bad path, I think we are past the point of no return and it will only get worse faster.

The U.S. along with all major economies on Earth have huge debts that will never be repaid and the people that loaned them the money don't care either way.

If all the major economies owe money then where is the money and who loaned it to them ?

Name a major economy that runs a national profit any year ?

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Unfortunately when the worker gets paid for his work it is "funny money", at any given time it could become worthless anyway. Market manipulation will always ensure another recession and so forth. The entire system is BS.

I believe our governments are borrowing money that they cannot pay back at almost no interest. The taxpayer in three generations or so will be paying for most of the welfare now so don't feel too bad.

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You are exactly correct on all points.

Bill

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3204 on: April 26, 2015, 12:42:00 AM »
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Unfortunately when the worker gets paid for his work it is "funny money", at any
given time it could become worthless anyway. Market manipulation will always
ensure another recession and so forth. The entire system is BS.
You got that right, it is a system designed to enslave the user and they buy into it without question. Hell most practically beg for it and stand in line to become a slave, they call it the American way where they serve their country until they are aged then it leaves them for dead.
AC
 

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3205 on: April 26, 2015, 01:02:19 AM »
@FarmhandYou got that right, it is a system designed to enslave the user and they buy into it without question. Hell most practically beg for it and stand in line to become a slave, they call it the American way where they serve their country until they are aged then it leaves them for dead.
AC

But, it did not used to be this way...it started before Obama but, he has accelerated our decline.  He shreds the Constitution which was there to prevent this type of thing from happening.

Bill

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3206 on: April 26, 2015, 01:58:26 AM »
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2100.0

Go to Chapter 8.6 of the innovation.doc and read

Meaningful Economic Activities.

Modern Wealth is no long paying taxes to the Government.  It is the other way - the Government provides the platform to generate Meaningful Economic Activities.

Flying Saucers with lead-out energy will required Government planning and infrastructure support.  Cars need roads.  Flying Saucers need rules, regulations, safety and many other issues.  An entire prototype city needs to be built.

Any one can propose the plans via the Internet.  The initiator need not be a government official.

Who will have the first prototype city?  USA, China, India or another Nation???

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3207 on: April 26, 2015, 02:02:55 AM »
What I want to know is...is anyone working on designing flying cups?

This could be important.

Then, we could all have flying cups and saucers.  Kind of like the Yin and Yang.

Bill

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3208 on: April 26, 2015, 02:17:28 AM »
What I want to know is...is anyone working on designing flying cups?

This could be important.

Then, we could all have flying cups and saucers.  Kind of like the Yin and Yang.

Bill
I believe that you can ride those at secret R&D facilities in Anaheim CA and Orlando FL.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3209 on: April 26, 2015, 02:51:47 AM »
I believe that you can ride those at secret R&D facilities in Anaheim CA and Orlando FL.

A close friend told me about that, but he said it is top secret so I didn't want to post here.  I will have to check this out.

Bill