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PIH123

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3075 on: April 03, 2015, 04:52:17 PM »
4 boards as shown in 3065 (not 3035) will do it...  Thanks for the vectoring of forces.  You are a real engineer...

No Probs, use as you see fit.

But please do me a favor.
Do Not communicate the following to anyone:

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Conversation with (or letter from) an Aerospace Engineer.

Engineer: "Adding 4 planks to a wobbly cylinder will lead-out amazing amounts of energy to your contraption.
The right kind of wood can also do the same for magnetic or electromagnetic energy."

Tseung: "But some people on the Internet still cannot understand it."

Engineer: "Don't worry about them, They are paid shills"


Divine Wine happy hour coming soon.

Larry T
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3076 on: April 03, 2015, 06:55:25 PM »
I think the basic theory of the Flying Saucer is complete.  The key elements are:

1.  A rotating magnet can travel in a circular path at high speed.
2.  This circular path can be along the circumference of the vessel.
3.  A magnetic force can be applied to provide the centripetal or centrifugal force to attract the magnet so that the magnet still travels in the circular path but not against the circumference or the wall of the vessel.
4.  The circular velocity can be increased by electromagnetic means.
5.  If the magnetic attraction force is suddenly cut, the magnet will tend to fly away tangentially.
6.  This tangential force can be harnessed to provide force of motion for the vessel.
7.  No external air is needed for the flying action. No material needs to be ejected from the vessel.
8.  More than one board containing the above 7 points can be used to provide controlled motion.
9.  The direction of the centrifugal force can be up, down, left or right.  It can be against gravity to provide lift.
10. The force can be less than the weight (thrust to weight ratio can be less than 1).
11. The classic motion of a flying saucer can be explained by such a vessel.  The classic motion includes stationary, very tight turns, appear to fly backwards at 180 degrees without deceleration and moving in curved paths.
12. The energy source can be lead-out gravitational, magnetic or electromagnetic energies.  Such energies can be replenished in space.  There is no need to carry large amount of chemical fuel inside the vessel.

Both China and USA know the basic technology.  Some of the prototypes might have accidentally flew outside the controlled areas and got photographed. This gives rise to the hundreds of UFO sightings.  (Some UFOs may be from other civilizations.)

Circular motion technology can lead-out gravitational energy as demonstrated in the Milkovic 2SO, the Chan Wheel, the Skinner device, the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier QMOGENs.  The Physics has been described in this thread.

Divine Wine is for all to share.  Governments are encouraged to think beyond military applications and use such a powerful technology to benefit the human race.

Sow seeds...  Some will fall on rocks.  Some will be eaten by birds.  Some will bear fruit...

Lawrence Tseung
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3077 on: April 03, 2015, 07:01:23 PM »
Lawrence, me thinks that you have been sipping your 'divine wine' too much and are intoxicated; that could explain your rambling about non-existing centrifugal forces, lead-out energy etc.

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3078 on: April 03, 2015, 11:15:35 PM »
It is Easter Time. What is the Divine Purpose in my knowing the secrets of infinite lead-energy and Flying Saucer?

The development of the World was once based on:

1.  The personal ambition of Kings and Emperors.  They wanted wealth and power for themselves and their off-springs.

2.  Then it was Nationalism.  Some Nations justified conquests and colonialism when it had the technological edge.  They claimed that they did it for the Nation.

3.  China learned - with the one child policy that it can provide a better standard of living for its citizens if the number of citizens is controlled.  Japan is deliberately following the same policy - allow its population to get old and decline.  With a declining population, there is no need to conquer.  Hong Kong and Singapore are densely populated but their citizens are enjoying high standards of living.

With lead-out energy and flying saucer, every human being on Earth can enjoy a much higher standard of living without "robbing" or bringing suffering to others. War and Conquest will be meaningless.  Knowledge is now easily shared.  Can the World Population be controlled?  Can everyone enjoy a high standard of living?  Will Nationalism fade away?  Will religious dogma change into tolerance and understanding?

Will China and USA disclose the QMOGEN and Flying Saucer technology to benefit the World?  Will the spread of the technology here on the Internet force the Leaders to think again?  Will the Leaders and Citizens turn away from narrow Nationalism?

Is that the purpose of the Divine Wine?

Is that the reason why an old, retired man who suffered from two strokes  could discover lead-out energy and the secrets of the Flying Saucer???

Lawrence Tseung
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memoryman

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3079 on: April 04, 2015, 12:15:56 AM »
" that the reason why an old, retired man who suffered from two strokes  could discover lead-out energy and the secrets of the Flying Saucer???" and who is that man? Inebriated on divine wine?

Paul-R

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3080 on: April 04, 2015, 01:16:24 PM »
" that the reason why an old, retired man who suffered from two strokes  could discover lead-out energy and the secrets of the Flying Saucer???" and who is that man? Inebriated on divine wine?
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What is the purpose of this message, memoryman?


Are you trying to pull down Lawrence or promote your ego?


Do you imagine that you are succeeding in either?

memoryman

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3081 on: April 04, 2015, 04:44:01 PM »
Paul-R, do you know for a fact that Lawrence isn't wasting our time with theories that he himself does not believe in? At first I thought that he was merely wrong, then I thought that he was deluded,but now I lean toward this being an ego-trip by him. There is a long list of people who like to pull tricks, sometimes for long periods.
I answer him with the same 'riddles' as he uses.
Enjoy or ignore.

Paul-R

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3082 on: April 04, 2015, 09:55:44 PM »
Paul-R, do you know for a fact that Lawrence isn't wasting our time with theories that he himself does not believe in? At first I thought that he was merely wrong, then I thought that he was deluded,but now I lean toward this being an ego-trip by him. There is a long list of people who like to pull tricks, sometimes for long periods.
I answer him with the same 'riddles' as he uses.
Enjoy or ignore.
You didn't answer the questions.

Pirate88179

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3083 on: April 04, 2015, 10:19:54 PM »
You didn't answer the questions.

Paul:

With all due respect, your questions to memoryman already presupposes that he wants to take Lawrence down, which, in my opinion, is not the case.  He is simply pointing out the obvious.  If you have another opinion, that's fine.  Just don't try to hang memoryman for his.

For the record, I too agree with memoryman's observations.

Bill

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3084 on: April 04, 2015, 10:54:40 PM »
Paul:

With all due respect, your questions to memoryman already presupposes that he wants to take Lawrence down, which, in my opinion, is not the case.  He is simply pointing out the obvious.  If you have another opinion, that's fine.  Just don't try to hang memoryman for his.

For the record, I too agree with memoryman's observations.

Bill

I think he was gratuitously insulting and offensive to no purpose other than self gratification.

memoryman

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3085 on: April 04, 2015, 11:46:51 PM »
Paul, you are entitled to whatever opinion you have; so is everybody else.
Nobody is obligated to answer questions either, including Lawrence. If you don't think that I answered your question(s), so be it.
I can live with that.
Bill

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3086 on: April 04, 2015, 11:48:07 PM »
I think he was gratuitously insulting and offensive to no purpose other than self gratification.

Well, the same could be said of me when I posted that flying saucer pic from a long time ago from Lawrence in another thread.  If left alone, Lawrence will take any other device and try to demonstrate how that proves his theory.  Like what he said about the Qmogen, which has never been proven to work by anyone.  He claims that there are over 50 examples of the qmogen which proves his theory is correct.  So, to me, someone has to point out that this is not true.  Deep down, I think Lawrence already knows this.

Now, we have the flying saucer theory again, which is why I posted that old picture from like 7 years ago.  This shows that nothing has changed.

So, you obviously are entitled to your opinion, as am I and also memoryman.

Thanks,

Bill

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3087 on: April 05, 2015, 12:29:32 AM »
Replenishing gravitational, magnetic or electromagnetic energy for the Flying Saucer.
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We can use large area of solar cells to capture light (electromagnetic wave).

A war plane can dive down to get high speed to gain height again.

What is the equivalent for the Flying Saucer?

Lead-out energy can be compared with a reversible chemical reaction.  The electron clouds or electron motions are easily reversible... 


A good understanding of this mechanism will help to design the lead-out energy machines or QMOGENs on Earth.  I believe the Tsinghua University Professors and Research Students who gave me the picture of the Energy Multiplier in 2006.  That QMOGEN was working since 1996.  The ignorant (or paid debunkers) can post anything.

The knowledge that it works (and possibly over 50 others) will give confidence to the new comers in this field.  The Physics of the Lead-out Energy and Flying Saucer is correct from the very beginning. I looked at the Milkovic 2SO but could not see over 10 years ago.  I only saw it as an OU device and improved it with the Chan Wheel a few months ago.

I know a few new comers - the Chinese Motor and Generator Manufacturers.  The Nay Sayers and paid debunkers will try to confuse them. I shall continue to encourage them to taste the Divine Wine.

Lawrence Tseung
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3088 on: April 05, 2015, 12:40:41 AM »
Replenishing gravitational, magnetic or electromagnetic energy for the Flying Saucer.
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A war plane can dive down to get high speed to gain height again.



Lawrence Tseung
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Yes, but, it is only using the potential energy that was stored up from the climb.  Ignoring the input from the engine, a dive in a plane, minus the drag from the air, will never be able to climb back up as high as the initial dive began. You do know this right?

A diving plane does not a flying saucer make.

Bill

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3089 on: April 05, 2015, 12:58:24 AM »
Yes, but, it is only using the potential energy that was stored up from the climb.  Ignoring the input from the engine, a dive in a plane, minus the drag from the air, will never be able to climb back up as high as the initial dive began. You do know this right?

A diving plane does not a flying saucer make.

Bill

A glider can take energy from the environment and soar higher.