Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system ! (Read 2231906 times)

ltseung888 · « **Reply #2685 on:** February 21, 2015, 01:28:02 AM »

It is getting clear to me that the road block to "free energy" is the mindset of some Senior Officials. They have the mindset that some technology must be kept as "top secret".

I would understand that mindset if it applies to destructive weapons such as nuclear bombs.

But there are technologies that can benefit the population at large. Internet is an example. At one time, the Chinese Government wanted strict control for fear of "subversive or pornographic posts". When they realized the benefits, the control was relaxed.

The Lead-out Energy Technology is likely to be similar to the Internet. China has progressed from the "have not" period to "have excess" period. It can grow excess food. It can manufacture excess goods. It can print excess money. Less and less number of farmers and factory workers are needed. The shift will go to innovation and technology.

If China implements Lead-out Energy in a big way, the rest of the World will follow. China will rightfully claim the position of Number One nation in the World. There is no need to conquer or cheat other nations. Win-win is possible with excess energy.

***Knowledge is one of those few things - the more you give away, the more you have. Lead-out Energy may be the same, the more you share with other, the more will come back to you. If all nations become "have excess" nations, what is purpose of war?

Paul-R · « **Reply #2686 on:** February 21, 2015, 01:17:14 PM »

China's attitude towards free energy will depend on her oil revenues, and a perceived threat to them.

But the pollution problems should be considered (remember the Beijing Olympics?), and the public health implications.

ARMCORTEX · « **Reply #2687 on:** February 21, 2015, 05:30:31 PM »

Charlie, I believe that you and I should simply talk elsewhere privately.

You may be right on some aspects ( I missed things )

But I am trying to figure out a larger story here. Where is the hidden eccentric?

Is there a Hidden eccentric in all these devices ? No... not all seems to be visually visible eccentric unless all of them (totality of devices shown) are hidden.

You are breaking down the whole theory, I never said there was anything to those loose pulleyrs there, In fact I am moving away from Chas design.
I was talking about the ''possibility of a new technique'', he has a Wheel, that has shoulder bearing on a floating wooden board, that is attached on input on one side
and output on other, he releases this wheel, lets the rotating mass sit on the sitting wheel, This is THAT ZONE of the build that causes the oscillatory drive that goes along the theory. Zone not shown in demo video.

I believe you are saying the same? You say yourself the eccentric is unproven why are you arguing, so you believe that what is causing such rattle?

I have my own interpretation in mind of whats happening, ''virtual eccentric'', if you hit something, you transfer weight energy ( inputted momentary weight by pulse), this motion across material, gets accelerated. This motion across matter is physcal thing, has frequency and speed of transfer.

I dont wanna argue anymore here it gives nothing, lets talk privately.

ltseung888 · « **Reply #2688 on:** February 21, 2015, 09:17:08 PM »

Quote from: ltseung888 on February 20, 2015, 08:59:22 PM

Thank you for the explanation. I have looked at the universal engine video multiple times.
http://www.universalengines.com.au/

I like the name "universal engine". Their mechanism is far too complicated. The Tsinghua Unbalanced Cylinder is far superior. The unbalanced weight is inside the cylinder and would not flying out.

The Unbalanced Cylinder is the Universal Engine. That is the State Secret of China.

Now I think I know why I was suspected as a spy in 2006. The technology is extremely powerful but simple. Any developing nation can master it.

The Unbalanced Cylinder can be scaled up and down to lead-out gravitational energy. This is only the beginning. Leading-out magnetic and electromagnetic energy follows. The Military of China and USA both realized its potential.

Lee Cheung Kin is right. I am only a kindergardener compared with the Establishments.

The magic is revealed. The Unbalanced Cylinder can be a Universal Engine. Gravitational Energy can be lead-out in the simple motor-cylinder-generator arrangement. Patents are not allowed because it is a state secret.

But any small nation can come out with Unbalanced Cylinders as add-on products...

I wonder how long it will take universalengines.com.au to modify their design to be similar to the Tsinghu University Energy Multiplier.

How about other groups such as:
Milkovic, Chalkalis, Chas Campbell, Bedini, Tong, Ting, Wang, Chan etc.

One comment was that most "home made" wheels are somewhat unbalanced. At speeds greater than 400rpm, they will lead-out some gravitational energy if mounted vertically.

I have no doubt that noonespecial or armcortex can also do it.

Any one who wants the overunity prize money can try it. The Divine Wine is ready for all Believers.

ARMCORTEX · « **Reply #2689 on:** February 21, 2015, 11:03:39 PM »

It can be tested, amongst other things. All can be tested. But

With the correct testbed design, I wish to test everything.

All in a custom frame, awaiting investors.

Would few design ideas would interest you, perhaps we may talk privately,

You me and noonespecial.

We shoudls speak privately.

ltseung888 · « **Reply #2690 on:** February 22, 2015, 01:42:01 AM »

One group appears to incorporate the unbalanced cylinder into the Motor similar to the Tong Wheel.

ltseung888 · « **Reply #2691 on:** February 22, 2015, 01:50:21 AM »

Quote from: ARMCORTEX on February 21, 2015, 11:03:39 PM

It can be tested, amongst other things. All can be tested. But

With the correct testbed design, I wish to test everything.

All in a custom frame, awaiting investors.

Would few design ideas would interest you, perhaps we may talk privately,

You me and noonespecial.

We shoud speak privately.

I am no longer interested in money. Investors who are interested in profits only should not contact me. If they are willing to donate 10% profit to charity, I am interested to present the Lead-out Technology to them. I am too old to take on any management responsibility.

All my knowledge will be posted and shared with the World. Divine Wine is to be shared.

*** I have been praying for Divine Guidance on what I should do next. The answer is:

The best you can do is to promote the Lead-out Energy Theory. Doing experiments or producing products are your weak spots. Let others shine on those.

So I shall be posting and emailing massively. Talk to multiple groups to excite and interest them. Sow the seeds. Some may fall on rock. Some may be treaded upon. Yet some may bear fruit.

ARMCORTEX · « **Reply #2692 on:** February 22, 2015, 01:16:15 PM »

Ltseung, so you think I cant build your device? Now that you have edited your post.

I guess that means you wont find me a millionnaire? You little...

What makes you think I even wanna try, that I even believe you or take you seriously or that I need you.

Everytime I hesitate I save money and buffers take the hit, 100% success rating.

Because we know how full of crap people are, they wanna hurt me and my wallet.

I am trying to nail this down, trust me you are completly useless to me now.

noonespecial · « **Reply #2693 on:** February 22, 2015, 05:01:33 PM »

My name has been coupled with ARMCORTEX in past responses (not by me).

I just want to go on record that I do not share his rather immature comments about you or your work. He is apparently very young and has a lot to learn about how to converse maturely in a public forum.

Best regards,
Charlie

norman6538 · « **Reply #2694 on:** February 22, 2015, 06:06:47 PM »

Drawings, drawings, drawings, page 1
Theories, theories, theories, page 10
Youtubes, youtubes, youtubes, page 20
Bickering, bickering, bickering, page 30
patent after patent after patent, page 40
no solid tests, no solid tests, no solid test.
same old, same old, same old. page 50

Any wonder why I get tired if the same old same old?

Is there any hope after all this - idea after idea after idea?

I'm loosing hope.

Norman

ltseung888 · « **Reply #2695 on:** February 22, 2015, 07:58:23 PM »

Quote from: noonespecial on February 22, 2015, 05:01:33 PM

My name has been coupled with ARMCORTEX in past responses (not by me).

I just want to go on record that I do not share his rather immature comments about you or your work. He is apparently very young and has a lot to learn about how to converse maturely in a public forum.

Best regards,
Charlie

No problem, I was young and bashful once.

Low-Q · « **Reply #2696 on:** February 22, 2015, 08:17:58 PM »

Quote from: norman6538 on February 22, 2015, 06:06:47 PM

Drawings, drawings, drawings, page 1
Theories, theories, theories, page 10
Youtubes, youtubes, youtubes, page 20
Bickering, bickering, bickering, page 30
patent after patent after patent, page 40
no solid tests, no solid tests, no solid test.
same old, same old, same old. page 50

Any wonder why I get tired if the same old same old?

Is there any hope after all this - idea after idea after idea?

I'm loosing hope.

Norman

Norman,

I can promise you that this thread will not result in any working device which can deliver more output than input.
I can promise you that when page number one billion is reached, there is still no working device, no working replica, nor any scientific proof. So no reason to be patient

Oscillation is a fine thing when the oscillation system isn't loaded. It will sustain resonance forever. However, when the oscillation is loaded by friction (Or a load), there will be lag in the system that will cause the phase shift between weight and tension to be less than 180 degrees.
So you must put in more work to sustain oscillation.
12 times more output than input is simply not true. But telling this to people in here is pointless, but I hope at least you realize you don't need to wait any longer. Overunity will not happen any time soon.

Vidar

ltseung888 · « **Reply #2697 on:** February 22, 2015, 08:35:49 PM »

Quote from: norman6538 on February 22, 2015, 06:06:47 PM

Drawings, drawings, drawings, page 1
Theories, theories, theories, page 10
Youtubes, youtubes, youtubes, page 20
Bickering, bickering, bickering, page 30
patent after patent after patent, page 40
no solid tests, no solid tests, no solid test.
same old, same old, same old. page 50

Any wonder why I get tired if the same old same old?

Is there any hope after all this - idea after idea after idea?

I'm loosing hope.

Norman

I was stupid once - spend my own resources on the Tong Wheel before the ideas were clear. The result was doubtful - generating only watts.

I was stupid again - trying to build FLEET via the Joule Thief Circuit. I never got useful resonances. One fatal mistake was relying on the cheap Atten Oscilloscope.

The third time was better. After carefully examining the Milkovic 2SO, I was absolutely certain that it is a lead-out energy device. I then get Mr, Peter Chan to build the Chan Wheel with the Unbalanced Bicycle Wheel replacing the pendulum. Bingo. The Milkovic Effect was reproduced. The mechanism of leading-out gravitational energy was crystal clear.

It was the Centrifugal Force of the Unbalanced Weight causing the vertical oscillation or the jumping effect. Without the jumping, NO gravitational energy will be lead-out. The Centrifugal Force increases with the square of the angular velocity.

The mystery of the Chalkalis and Chas Campbell setups were resolved. A review quickly pointed me back to the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier. I am absolutely certain that the Cylinders were unbalanced. (I mentioned it 8 years ago but I did not have the conviction.)

The moral of the story is - do not waste time and resources on prototypes when the ideas are not clear. People like myself cannot build things - not even tightening screws. Let others shine.

Before the others can shine, sufficient understanding must be imparted. Now the proposed design of the simplified Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier is very clear to me. Some one like noonespecial has done similar experiments before. They are in a better position to shine.

If you are impatient, come back after a few months or years. The lead-out energy theory was out at least 8 years ago. The lead-out energy Chan Wheel was produced only 3 months ago. Divine Wine takes time to mature...

If you expect me to build the device and do the experiment myself, wait for the next life.

ltseung888 · « **Reply #2698 on:** February 22, 2015, 08:47:43 PM »

Quote from: Low-Q on February 22, 2015, 08:17:58 PM

Norman,

I can promise you that this thread will not result in any working device which can deliver more output than input.
I can promise you that when page number one billion is reached, there is still no working device, no working replica, nor any scientific proof. So no reason to be patient

Oscillation is a fine thing when the oscillation system isn't loaded. It will sustain resonance forever. However, when the oscillation is loaded by friction (Or a load), there will be lag in the system that will cause the phase shift between weight and tension to be less than 180 degrees.
So you must put in more work to sustain oscillation.

12 times more output than input is simply not true. But telling this to people in here is pointless, but I hope at least you realize you don't need to wait any longer. Overunity will not happen any time soon.

*** The number of 12 times is "meaningless" once you understand the lead-out energy mechanism. Imagine drilling a hole at a water tank. Matching the energy used to drill the hole and the energy of the water comong out is meaningless.

Vidar

The Milkovic 2SO and the Chan Wheel are already lead-out gravitational energy devices.

The Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier has been used since 1996. The Output Energy is 30 times the Input. The difference comes from the unbalanced cylinders leading-out gravitational energy via appropriate rotational speed.

Build yourself a Chan Wheel and confirm that only an Unbalanced Wheel can lead-out gravitational energy...

ARMCORTEX · « **Reply #2699 on:** February 22, 2015, 09:23:52 PM »

Quote from: noonespecial on February 22, 2015, 05:01:33 PM

My name has been coupled with ARMCORTEX in past responses (not by me).

I just want to go on record that I do not share his rather immature comments about you or your work. He is apparently very young and has a lot to learn about how to converse maturely in a public forum.

Best regards,
Charlie

Charlie I am just messing with the man, do you think I ever believed his stories for a single second.

Its all a a big fat lie and fantasy.

Cant stand BS, its there to hurt us.

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