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Author Topic: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy  (Read 57014 times)

Offline Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #225 on: January 25, 2018, 05:13:21 PM »
my direction is using HV in the transformer primary and close to 12V in the secondary. Transformer has the primary wrapped in a small E-core and the 2 secondaries are wound on the opposing sides on an U-core. So the primary core is inside the secondary core. The opposing flux from the loads should now flow between each load coil and not the prim coil.


Thane Heins? I have never tested this technique. Thanks for bringing it ;)

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #226 on: January 25, 2018, 06:01:27 PM »
make a little diagram ...pls

Well I could be totally wrong. I want to try stuff out myself first before I start talking about GOD here ;)

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #227 on: January 26, 2018, 01:20:12 AM »
Jeg: »I have got my 220 to 24V small transformers. I haven't still decide on how to connect their primaries in terms of input peak to peak voltage.«

Each modification how the transformers are connected to one another and each modification of the capacity and the resistance will change the output waveform. There are a lot of possibilities to play around with. But just in case nothing works (as usual) here comes some doom-mongering of mine:


ALTERNATIVE FACTS

As a matter of fact, in a decade the brightest minds couldn't figure out what simple electric parts could be hidden in a small tin can. This is not interesting, this is rather shocking. So I have to quote Sherlock Holmes: »When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.«

Therefore I'm starting to think the improbable: Could it be that all those free energy devices are point-blank fakes? Fakes implemented and orchestrated in the course of a century by superiors like governments, secret services, the military, Men in Black, Skull & Bones, etc. you name it. Beginning with Tesla's electric car and the Moray device, across magnet motors, the Steven Mark TPU, Hubbard, Gray, Don Smith, towards Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal, Rossi's cold fusion and so on, inclusive the Testatica machine. The goal is to make people believe such devices can work, so people start to make experiments and IF one finds a working setup (assuming there can be one at all), then THEY can take it for free, because THEY want it (as weapon) but don't have it yet. It is plainly impossible that in over ten years absolutely nobody is able to replicate a device (not even by chance) that consists of almost nothing, except a few basic electric parts hidden in a small round box, or a device that uses just an ordinary three-phase transformer to generate free energy. Tens of thousands of experiments done, but still nothing. Can't be. Something has to be terribly wrong here. Within ten years even such a complex thing like a mobile phone could be build from scratch.

All what we know about such devices is that, what we have seen in some blurry video demonstrations. Very few people saw those demonstrations with their own eyes. But can we be sure those people are not part of the hoax? This would change the picture dramatically. What are the odds, that not a single one of those observers approached the inventor afterwards and pushed him to reveal his secret? After the demonstration all those observers go home and quietly pay their energy bills? Nobody ever tried to steal the device? What are the odds, that in the course of a century not one single working free energy schematic leaked into the public domain? None of the already deceased inventors left a single note? Further, obviously nobody would present a free energy hoax device to the Ministry of energy; but would one be so stupid to present a WORKING free energy device to the Ministry of energy? What for? Except of course, it is a hoax nevertheless and the Ministry would be part of that hoax.

And does this also explain cosmoLV's strange behavior and his mystified talking? Did he gave tips how such a device MIGHT work, hoping someone in the forum can get it somehow to work, not having an idea how it really could work? Here are some very strange statements coming from cosmoLV:

cosmoLV on August 27, 2010, 05:17 AM: »Hutchinson effect is very close to Kapanadze device by some properties, but i don't have permission to go in deep details.«

Permission? By whom? Who cares about a permission? What might happen to you when you go into deep details without a permission?

cosmoLV on August 28, 2010, 01:09 AM: »don't talk and waste time and do some experiments... and think, why nobody can replicate Tariel's device? There is something wrong, isn't?«

Something wrong with Tariel's device? What might that be?

cosmoLV on January 12, 2011, 08:07 AM: »we are starting to give technology - if everything going like now, then on start of summer - this technology start to come public.«

And then? What happened? Is there in reality no such technology that can come public yet?

cosmoLV on February 14, 2012, 07:18 PM: »I Have friends in military and in Government - and i can say to you that no US army and any other have such technology to stop this! What they have? Microwave weapons, Ultrasound and e.t.c. this is nothing... They don't have such magnetic field technology and never had.«

But of course the Government and the US army are absolutely unable to get it somehow (by force or by offering money) from Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal, etc.?

»Yes they want such a technology, that way there is free speech, because, this maybe a secret info, but all social media, youtube and free energy forums all about - to bring involved us to help in not straight way. More people involved to this, more possibilities to crack this technology up!«

And that means what? Does it mean, no such free energy device exists yet and therefore THEY use the fora in order to find someone that could invent it (crack it up) eventually?

cosmoLV on February 14, 2012, 08:56 PM: »P.S. i work in TV and i know how these conspiracy theories and other shit are made! the same Rosville and other theatrical crap - to make peoples fool to let them think what they want! They can tell you everything and you will believe if this even not exist.«

Could that imply, we should consider the Kapanadze device and all other such devices also just as theatrical crap? Is each and every device presentation a stage production to stimulate people into research? Is that the secret of free energy?

Don't know, but hopefully one could soon prove those alternative facts completely wrong. Would be a nice move. And someone now should yell, YES, I have it, it's working!!! Surely Area 51 will appreciate that a lot.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #227 on: January 26, 2018, 01:20:12 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #228 on: January 26, 2018, 12:56:37 PM »
There is a pattern

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #229 on: January 26, 2018, 01:15:55 PM »
The same. F - 2XF

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #230 on: January 26, 2018, 01:36:23 PM »
50Hz - 100Hz Voltage and current wave-forms

I wonder if High voltage applies to 50Hz and not to 100Hz.
But in any case with the right shifting we can bring 100Hz HV to coincide with 50Hz High current.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #231 on: January 26, 2018, 02:37:11 PM »
The same. F - 2XF
Hi don't want be a kill joy here but can i make a suggestion with regards to the latest circuit here as from
what i can remember  from my own much earlier experiments DC and AC don't mix and nor do out of phase and
voltage variations, I used a 100W incandescent bulb or 159Watt spotlight, it spent most of the time very brightly light.  ;D

If you rectify mains you only get half amplitude if Full Wave or Half Wave as it blocks or inverts the other half Wave
unless you add a large capacitor in series into the circuit.

But then you need to some how add CURRENT lots of it.
Perhaps with the resistive shorted turn in the circuit.

Just a thought  :D ::) ::)

Good luck
« Last Edit: January 26, 2018, 09:10:38 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #232 on: January 27, 2018, 05:15:08 PM »
I found this post in another forum, and it's compatible with the speech we're doing here ... 8)

BTG Vladimir and Chip.  # 89734   The principle of operation of the Kapanadze installation is unraveled and consists in the following.  You need to get a magnetic wave from the transformer.  Remember Tesla's story about the switch at turning on and the shutdown was killing people.  This is not OEDS !!!  It was a magnetic wave.  You need to simulate the process.  We take the lowering trans 220 to 15 or 20 volts, to the secondary winding of the trance we put in parallel a transistor key, single-cycle or two-stroke, taking into account that there is an alternating voltage of 15-20 volts, we put either a bridge of diodes or a collector circuit of the transistor diode and a limiting resistor somewhere 6 ohms.  We control the key to the base via an optocoupler or a separating transformer.  Directly with 2 windings through the conder on the LC, the contour and the bifilar are inductively coupled to the circuit.  With a bifa, take a load on one side of it, and on the other hand apply any voltage, for example 220 volts, to the movement of charges of a contour loosened by the torsion field of the LC circuit into a bifilar one.  The inductance of the windings of the bifa is different and refers to a coefficient of 1.5 - 1.7.  For example, 2 mg and 3 mgn = 1.5 is important. The key operates at the frequency of the LC circuit. That's the whole secret of Kapanadze.  First get a magnetic wave, and then connect through the condor LC resonator.
  You make a key on the bipolar transistors and from the generator to the non-555 with frequency and porosity adjustment, achieve the effect.  Frequency from 100 to 500 kHz and will be happy If you get the effect then you will turn off the computer and other electronics.  Make the indicator as for the reels of the target and it will light up.  Watch the video generator BTG from Chip.  I wish you success.  This is not OEDS is radiant energy and you will understand its power and the costs of its creation a few watts, but get kilowatts.
  Ionization is needed to maintain the torsion field in the LC resonator, ionization around the coils is needed. I explain how the magnetic wave works.  After the condors you need to put a diode or bridge and apply a resonator to the LC.  A scalar magnetic field is formed in the LC resonator.  This field unwinds and untwists the electrons in the bifilar, this current standing in place.  It remains to apply the potential difference and the current of the untwisted electrons will go through the load.  Consumption from the circuit is minimal, and the power will depend on the number of untwisted electrons.  You can load and the drawdown will not be enough for the electrons in the bifle. The focus is that the scalar field in the LC resonator does not affect the transformer and generates a large amount of energy at a low cost of just 50 watts, easily getting a kilowatt of 50 Hz hertz of 220 volts.  The key closer operates at the frequency of the LC resonator or vice versa.  After the key, it is impossible to put condors even of small capacity parallel to the key, there will be a fault. To proceed with the process, more ionization or high voltage, like Kapa, ​​is required to obtain more energy.  The whirlwind must be nourished.
  We need a trans reducing key that closes on the secondary in parallel and also includes a sequential oscillatory circuit in parallel with the secondary, and wind the bifilar on the coil and change it from one side and load it from the other side of the bif.  It's simple.  Read all of my posts carefully, and then another 10 years here we will fantasize.
  For everything to work out, the key should work on the frequency of the coil standing after the conders.  Tesla's energy - radiant can be shot directly through a diode or bridge to Akkum.  Even dead batteries charge for 20 minutes.  The engines of this energy do not spin.  It is very important to wind the biff correctly.  That is, wires of different lengths by inductance with a coefficient of 1.5 - 1.7.  For example, one wire is 2 lbs, and the second 2 is multiplied by 1.6. Equal to 3.2 hectares.  We shave in 2 w wires, and then one extend by 1.6 times.  It looks like a grenade.  The generator controlling the key must have a frequency and duty cycle adjustment.  You can work on the harmonic signal.  The gene is not 555 or another.  The key is a bipolar transistor with a decoupling from the base on a ferrite trance or optocoupler.  In the circuit of the transistor, turn on the diode.  Or the transistor wrench should be included in the diagonal of the rectifier bridge + -., Similar to the thyristor regulator
  Nothing needs to be done anymore.  The circuit works without any FAPCH, itself is synchronized.  Earth is not required, this is Kapa's withdrawal.  The main is to run the key.  It should be slightly open.  Here a snag is that the key is under an alternating voltage of 15 - 20 volts 50 Hz.  Otherwise, the focus will not work.  All this confuses even the specialists.  In this mode, there is a low-cost way to kill the killer.
  The key works with the frequency of the coil - the resonator standing after the conders.
  The frequency of the key is equal to the frequency of the resonator coil. It can be 100 - 500 kHz, this is enough.  Key bipolar transaction amper at 10 kt 803 805 And so on.
  The Biff has no resonance.  The length of the wire is from 5 meters to 15 meters.  The thicker the beef the greater the load.  The bif winds on the coil of the resonator from the outside or inside, naferrite is heated, and in the air it normally works.  I need to ionize and e high voltage, those type of cashier stick to the side or a spark like a Kapa directly on the coil.
  The bif has no inductance, since it is wound up inductively, but has a length and a cross-section of wires that determines the power of the installation.  Number of untwisted electrons.  Issued volume of bifilar.  The length of the bifa is from 5 m to 15 m, and the cross section is 2.5 - 4 squares.
  If you put an ammeter in one wire where the voltage is applied, then it will show a small current, and near the bulbs the ammeter will show a large load current, this is an increase due to the electrons of the bifilar. An increase in current occurs.  Two parts of the installation give independence of the magnetic fields from the transformer and it does not see the load, there will not be a drawdown.  Put the lamps of small or large power equally shining.  You can load while there are enough electrons in the beef.
  It is better to put the filter from a computer PSU.
  This is the correct scheme.  You just need to play with frequency and duty cycle and everything will turn out.
  Ingvar: take the scheme of the coach without condors and connect it to the power supply to the bridge key where + and -. The coil of the coach will be the resonator.  The key in the bridge should work with the frequency KACHERA !!!  A bifilar is placed near the coil of the caterpillar.
  Remember how to wind every shoulder of the bifa - this is very important.  I wrote about this above.  Observe the coefficient 1.6 for one of the shoulders by inductance.
  To get 5 kilowatts, there is enough spent power not more than 100 watts.  That's all .
 
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #233 on: January 28, 2018, 03:40:46 AM »
leo48: »and it's compatible with the speech we're doing here«

Yes, it is compatible with non-working setups. The secondary coil of a 50Hz step-down transformer is sorted at a rate of some hundred KHz. I can't see how this ever could generate Kapanadze's ground current of 22 amps, especially since there is no ground connection in that schematic. Besides, the secondary coil could also be shorted with some kind of a spark instead of a transistor. And what would be the result? Yes, a step down transformer with shorted secondary coil, like used in an arc welder perhaps. That's terrific. Someone could give it a try and make a self-runner.

Currently they are on page 22 and the schematic changes all few pages. Don't know if this is a sign that they have something really working.


ZERO

Here my latest setup; there is still no effect observable outside the box; maybe someone guessed that already.

The high voltage pulses are 2KV at 100Hz, waveform see oscilloscope screenshot below. The shorted coil gives me 2.5 amps and it ionizes the air a bit. It doesn't matter whether the high voltage is connected or not or how, it doesn't matter whether sparking is involved or not, it doesn't matter whether the ground is connected or not. There is not the slightest hint something unusual is going on here; absolutely nothing; like about ten thousand times before.

So what's the conclusion? If nothing works, the only conclusion can be, that those devices are all hoax. Not ordinary hoaxes by some individuals, but government hoaxes. No one presents a fake device to the Ministry of energy - except the Ministry itself is part of that hoax. Also it is totally impossible that Kapanadze has faked his devices in front of more than a dozen independent observers. Conclusion: If the Kapanadze devices are fake - and it looks strongly like that - all those observers are part of those fakes. I can see no reason for Kapanadze to carry out one fake after the other including all those spectators seen in the videos ... except someone told him to do so. The credibility of a free energy video is tied closely to the presence of independent observers appearing in that video. If there is any doubt coming up regarding their independence, then the whole credibility of that video goes down the drain.

cosmoLV on October 07, 2010, 07:32 PM: »the question is: this is the end of physics? Nothing new to come and we need to live with that?«

Currently it looks that way. The end of physics and nothing new to come (for the time being). But at least, the Gordian knot regarding this free energy gibberish has now been cut (see introduction on page one). For example, Kapanadze: »This is all Tesla, I used his schematic.« First, there is no such schematic, second, if there were one, then no one could file a patent for a schematic belonging to Tesla. Of course no problem, when the government is behind all this.


THE CONTEST

But there is a silver lining on the horizon. Since it looks the government is behind all those fakes, because some of the government scientists are convinced, it should somehow be possible to make a free energy device, but they are not able (or willing) to do the research themselves, then maybe it could be somehow possible indeed. Although in that case it is rather counter-productive to look at non-working fake devices. We should rather think about Tesla's energy sink and Bearden's bird on the high voltage line and maybe also about Aspden's concentric capacitor and so on.

Apropos observers credibility: The simplest way to fake the Testatika machine's clean DC output (I've experimented half of 2017 with Wimshurst setups, but nothing) would be to hide some batteries in its wooden base, let's say 18 to 20 small batteries, each 12 volts, and then connect a 20W incandescent light bulb to it, so it looks on video like 1000 watts of brightness. All easily possible when no trustworthy observers are present. But what could be the reason for the Methernitha group to make such a hoax other than they were told to make it? Maybe I'm in error and the Testatika machine is a real free energy device, then why no one has ever tried to get hands on it? A working free energy device would be worth more than a ton of gold, but no one is interested. The conclusion of all this has to be, not mankind is not ready for free energy, but free energy is not ready yet to serve mankind.

So, as it appears, the governments free energy hoax is poised to collapse after a hundred years like a house of cards. Or shall we call this better governments free energy contest? The first one who presents a working free energy device wins the prize of being the one who will have successfully stopped all that free energy nonsense. Of course, there are also some forces in the background which are not interested in free energy, hence flooding the internet and the fora with a lot of rubbish. So, good luck, and don't get confused!


P.S.: I can't see any children in any of those free energy videos; guess why. Perhaps they could easily babble out a secret?
« Last Edit: January 28, 2018, 02:40:02 PM by Zeitmaschine »

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #234 on: January 28, 2018, 01:41:36 PM »
Hi
Leo48 thanks for the post and the circuit. I see something in there that i like it a lot. A series LC and a high frequency at specific time. If this is not Tesla then what it is!!!

Nice picture of your setup Zeit. Keep it up. ;)   


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #235 on: January 28, 2018, 07:02:33 PM »
So what's the conclusion? If nothing works, the only conclusion can be, that those devices are all hoax.

Hi Zeitmaschine. Nice clean test setup.

Your 'conclusion' above is really only just another assumption. You seem to think about
this free energy stuff in a very black or white kind of way. Either all the claims are valid or
all the claims are hoaxes or scams. This is not necessarily the case at all. :) There are
differences in the credibility level of different OU claims. They are not all the same. :)

For example, it has been pointed out here that there is a fair degree of reasonable evidence that
the Barbosa and Leal electron captor devices are not OU, and they have not demonstrated any
apparent OU effect in any sort of credible way using a battery and inverter in front of credible
witnesses. Kapanadze on the other hand has demonstrated apparent self runners up close in front
of quite a few independent witnesses under different circumstances over the years and so far no
one that I know of has stated that they saw any signs of tricks being used. That is not proof that his
devices are really OU, but Kapanadze's claims so far do seem to have a fair bit more credibility
than the former claims by people like Barbosa and Leal regarding their electron captor devices.
My suggestion would be to not look at things as so black and white, but evaluate and weigh all the
evidence for each individual claimant and consider which OU claims may have more credibility than
others. Just my own opinion. :) 

All the best...



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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #235 on: January 28, 2018, 07:02:33 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #236 on: January 28, 2018, 08:25:46 PM »
Yes, black and white. Because free energy can be only black or white. There is no such thing like a bit of free energy.

It was not me, who first suggested that the Barbosa and Leal device could be fake. But if it is fake, then it is a government fake. No way around that.

Someone would like to read one more conspiracy theory? Here it comes: The government orchestrates all those free energy fakes not because they have no free energy, so they want to inspire people to search for it, but they have already free energy and want to distract people away from it by presenting to them staged free energy videos, inclusive hoax patents and schematics, etc., which have nothing at all to do with the principle of work of a real free energy device. Of course they tell the actors in those videos still, this is for the motivation of researchers and therefore for the good of humanity and the end justifies the means.

But I'm rather inclined to say: they have nothing.

If we assume for a moment that Kapanadze knows indeed the secret of free energy, then someone can answer me that question: Why has no one ever tried to kidnap Kapanadze and get the secret by force? People were kidnaped already for things far less valuable than the schematic of a free energy device. The same question applies to other so-called »inventors«.

And now, as I can read in the other thread, the same BS like cosmoLV's »I will reveal the secret in summer 2011« and »I have no permission to go into details« is going on again. So what will happen on March 18? Nothing as usual? I'll bet on it.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #237 on: January 28, 2018, 08:44:08 PM »
 ::) Sigh...

:)


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #238 on: January 28, 2018, 10:07:13 PM »
So what of famous people through history I can think of three, one who actually won a Nobel prize for the
development of material effect.
Such as Gabriel Khone and also Aharonov, Boham for developing a Material effect
that violates the second law of thermodynamics (physics).

I'm sure you can all look up the people involved your self.

Allen

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #239 on: February 04, 2018, 01:00:24 PM »
Jeg: »I wonder if High voltage applies to 50Hz and not to 100Hz.«

Any luck so far swapping the frequencies?

 

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