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Author Topic: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy  (Read 57037 times)

Offline Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #255 on: February 06, 2018, 09:39:27 AM »
Jeg
 Verpies and others feel that NMR Could be a path to this result [harvesting from the reaction]
It is this "resonator"  {NMR} which I believe Fernandez refers too..... two "half wave" coils [NMR frequency of iron ??]


Chet
For sure NMR is very interesting, i just have the feeling that Fernadez spoke about mechanical vibrations. Two coils as a primary, each coil conducts for half of a cycle and the result might be a vibration of the free part of the iron. Higher frequencies than what iron can follow for sure will heat the iron into high degrees even with low power. I hope Fernadez will clarify a little more about his proposal.

Regards 

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #256 on: February 06, 2018, 02:50:44 PM »
Jeg
yes it would seem a bit of clarity would be very useful

 here a comment from the AVEC TPU document

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If you pulse iron wire at iron's NMR you'll get a minor resonance effect even if the coil is not tuned to that frequency. Steven Mark was utilizing this effect along with the timing delay action of iron wire to generate a rotating magnetic field of the correct frequency.
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respectfully
Chet
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PS member Grumpy [reborn as Sigma16 after some moderation episode [he is very passionate about this [and I don't think Sigma16 survives unmoderated today   :o]
started a topic here on the AVEC [with links]

http://overunity.com/9749/aether-vortex-energy-converter-avec-device-full-disclosure/#.Wnm-YbmWzoY

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #257 on: February 06, 2018, 06:59:34 PM »
here a comment from the AVEC TPU document

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If you pulse iron wire at iron's NMR you'll get a minor resonance effect even if the coil is not tuned to that frequency. Steven Mark was utilizing this effect along with the timing delay action of iron wire to generate a rotating magnetic field of the correct frequency.
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Nice. Normally the frequency is dependent of the perpendicular magnetic field's value. I hope that we can find some more info on this. 

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #257 on: February 06, 2018, 06:59:34 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #258 on: February 06, 2018, 08:00:02 PM »
SOME CONSIDERATIONS

First: Any idea, how Tesla's fireball machine can generate nuclear magnetic resonance since it has no iron core and how nuclear magnetic resonance could be accountable for a ground current? In my understanding nuclear magnetic resonance wouldn't need a ground connection at all.

I would rather suggest, the Kapanadze, Stepanov and Barbosa-Leal devices are just open electric systems. Such a system simply defeats Lenz's law and Ohm's law by connecting to the ambient medium as a source of energy.

Second: What would happen if we replace the 100Hz transformer by a switch also working at synchronized 100Hz? We have an open high voltage secondary coil working at 50Hz that attracts electrons from ground via a ground connection on one end and then we short it when the sine wave is on its peak. Could it be, there is no real need for a second transformer working at 100Hz? Just a fast bipolar switch working at 100Hz? Of course the problem here would be to find a switch that can withstand a few kilovolts. On the other hand, this could be the reason why almost no hobbyist can discover that effect by chance. Or should the switch better work at the 50Hz grid frequency? Anyway, I don't think a simple spark gap as switch will do it in that case; it's just too unsteady and too unreliable. But what, if the primary coil of the 100Hz high voltage transformer would not be connected to a frequency doubler circuit, but to a switch that shorts its primary coil synchronized to the grid frequency? So the periodically shorting of the high voltage coil is made through that transformer and therefore a switch for low voltage would be sufficient. There are two transformers and their secondary high voltage coils are connected in parallel and to ground. One transformer generates high voltage (step-up) from 50Hz grid, the second transformer steps the high voltage down again to low voltage. Now, if we short that low voltage coil of the second transformer, then the high voltage is also shorted. Strictly speaking, the second transformer works like a magnetic amplifier.

cosmoLV on October 04, 2010, 03:48 PM:

»P.S.

http://sparkbangbuzz.com/mag-amp/mag-amp.htm

try combine it together«

Tesla: »Under these assumptions the energy would flow through the path O, as indicated by the arrow, and might then be converted on its passage into some other form of energy.«

Means, the energy - the negatively charged electrons from ground - would flow into the high voltage coil which works as an energy sink, then, by shorting that coil, the energy might be converted into an other form of energy, namely a strong magnetic field.

Just pondering ...

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #259 on: February 06, 2018, 08:24:32 PM »

About NMR:
There are many ready-made devices, containing chemical compounds of iron,  that use various effects based on NMR.
For example:


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Yttrium iron garnet spheres (YIG spheres) serve as magnetically tunable filters and resonators for microwave frequencies.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YIG_sphere


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An isolator is a two-port device that transmits microwave or radio frequency power in one direction only. It is used to shield equipment on its input side, from the effects of conditions on its output side; for example, to prevent a microwave source being detuned by a mismatched load.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolator_(microwave)


As far as I know, no one noticed any presence of overunity in these devices...

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #260 on: February 07, 2018, 11:17:43 AM »

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #261 on: February 10, 2018, 06:19:32 AM »
                                                ****************   February 9th 2018   ****************




I would rather suggest, the Kapanadze, Stepanov and Barbosa-Leal devices are just open electric systems. Such a system simply defeats Lenz's law and Ohm's law by connecting to the ambient medium as a source of energy.

User Zeitmaschine, I am going to give you credit, you put a lot of effort into your posts (even though you are wrong) BUT I want to put you and some others in this world on the right track and moving in the right direction.




Here is the truth, take it or bury it
I will keep this short and drama free, the words Free Energy, Overunity, and Zero Point Energy has corrupted your thoughts because the device is............ so easy you will laugh

For starters your statement is incorrect Lenz's Law is actually a blessing, you need to wrap your head around that first. Let's review Lenz quickly

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An induced electromotive force always gives rise to a current whose magnetic field opposes the change in original magnetic flux.

All of you globally have missed the key word in that statement, you are too quick to denounce Lenz's Law as the culprit, the destroyer of energy. However, if I highlight just one word in that statement we open up a new method of utilizing Lenz's Law.

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An induced electromotive force always gives rise to a current whose magnetic field opposes the change in original magnetic flux.

So the beauty is, if I create a magnetic field in a coil with some current NATURE rewards me with a duplicate magnetic field that opposes mine. Already I got something for almost nothing. (BTW... that's my first Primary coil usage, to create a Lenz induced field)

So I now have a Primary magnetic field that gave rise to an induced magnetic field as stated by Lenz. Pay close attention here, this is important! Now take another coil (call it Primary 2) and feed your Lenz induced magnetic field so you complement its growth. So in other words your North pole of Primary 2 faces the South pole of Lenz field (or Vice Versa). Because Lenz is only present in change of original magnetic flux. Are you starting to see? Lenz has no interest in my second Primary because Primary 1 is the parent of Lenz induced field. You really need to appreciate how powerful that statement is. Ignore what has been written in any other thread that talks about these devices, lots of people using big words and way to complex algorithms to build something a child can assemble. 

So do you now understand why Barbosa and Leal explain in their patent the pole of the induced complements the primary pole? Do you now understand why that guy Tariel says........ it's so easy you will laugh, see why Clemente Figuera said "this is like the egg of Columbus". Because it really is that silly and simple, you simply feed the induced magnetic field with another magnetic field. There is no Lenz that opposes Primary 2, Primary 2 doesn't create an induced field (if you time it right) it ADDS to what has already been induced from P1. The result is a strong Rectified Magnetic field. That is your resonator, not so glamorous now that you know how everyone including Steve Mark pull this off. I apologies if you where looking for something more complex or other worldly. Unfortunately many of you will still be looking for a more complex solution because your mind will never accept such a simple solution to a problem that had you perplexed for years.

That is the theory behind the how it works some of you are smart enough to figure out the build details, but I will get you started. You are going to wind you primary's like a Poly-Phase motor (Yep a Tesla invention) take special note that a capacitor is used to delay a phase (this is super cheap and EZ). These devices use impulses and you need to split the wave in half so diodes are used. So one coil is at its magnetic max while the other is not, also you need to split the wave between coils, so half wave per primary but that is why you are using diodes (or tubes if your that type of guy Steve). Timing is very critical between the coils, remember you are building a resonator and nothing more.

Like I said before, take some iron from a tire jack and cut the ends off. Get a C-clamp to close the ends and you have a simple core that allows for different coils. To extract you need a secondary but that is simple, wrap it around your low budget iron core, use a thick or thin secondary.

So its up to you and figure out if the primary's should be CW or CCW, shouldn't take that long. BTW... bifiler coil doesn't mean crap.  The beauty of this device is different inputs (voltage/frequency) changes the output and output varies based on type of coil. Start simple, low voltage and don't kill yourself. You have more in this post then you ever wanted.

One more thing, Tesla patent, 413,353 not glamorous and not your FE but excellent facts and my personal opinion is as close as it gets for Tesla. 



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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #262 on: February 10, 2018, 01:30:14 PM »
Fernandez: »Because it really is that silly and simple, you simply feed the induced magnetic field with another magnetic field.«

Then why is it, that after years and decades no one has presented yet a successful replication of any of those devices? If you know to hundred percent sure how it works, then where can we see your replication? Why write verbosely how it works (or how it might work) instead of showing a simple schematic? You know, a picture is worth a thousand words.


Fernandez: »Like I said before, take some iron from a tire jack and cut the ends off. Get a C-clamp to close the ends and you have a simple core that allows for different coils.«

What's wrong with my approach of connecting a bank of small step-down transformers together, in order to use that construction as a single step-up transformer? Is it perhaps necessary to have a (high voltage) transformer comprising a set of three coils for some reason? Would be odd, because there are only two frequencies in use.


Fernandez: »you are too quick to denounce Lenz's Law as the culprit, the destroyer of energy«

I never said that. Lenz's law just indicates the absence of additional energy. It does not destroy energy. If the solution is to simply feed an induced magnetic field with another magnetic field in order to get a surplus of energy, then where is that free energy coming from? Does it come directly from the magnetic field? Or is the magnetic field only an aid to collect that energy? Why does Kapanadze need a ground connection? Where are the 22 amps of ground current coming from? Is the magnetic field responsible for that ground current, or the ground current for the magnetic field?


Fernandez: »User Zeitmaschine, I am going to give you credit, you put a lot of effort into your posts (even though you are wrong)«

Maybe other users should likewise put a lot (more) of effort into their posts; I continuously have the bizarre feeling that almost no one here is really interested in doing straight forward experiments. At least there are hardly some reports of experiments related to my suggestions  (or counter-suggestions), neither with positive nor with negative results. This could easily give the impression that the majority of writers here are actually not overenthusiastic about having eventually a working free energy device in their hands.


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #263 on: February 10, 2018, 02:45:02 PM »
Zeitmaschine


Please. Read again what Fernandez wrote. He is 100% correct.
No generator from Pixii till today EVER produced electric energy from burning fossil fuels ! This is the BIG FAT LIE - probably then biggest in the history of mankind. If you watch how generator works - it is exactly that - an induced magnetic field adding to the original weak field in positive feedback loop - that why the cogging effect is required in ordinary generators. Energy is magnetic field , magnetic field is energy - steady state flow in closed loop - that's our problem. Figuera , Hubbard, Barbosa&Leal - they found a way to create such positive feedback loop without Lenz law acting mechanically.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #264 on: February 10, 2018, 03:01:55 PM »

Maybe other users should likewise put a lot (more) of effort into their posts; I continuously have the bizarre feeling that almost no one here is really interested in doing straight forward experiments. At least there are hardly some reports of experiments related to my suggestions  (or counter-suggestions), neither with positive nor with negative results. This could easily give the impression that the majority of writers here are actually not overenthusiastic about having eventually a working free energy device in their hands.

Hi Zeit,

Motivation to experiment is not helped by those writers who that claim they have the secret without showing a shred of evidence. A comment along the lines that - Uncle Lenz provides free energy - is simply unfounded and wishful thinking unless supported by more than just personal belief.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #265 on: February 10, 2018, 04:40:19 PM »
forest: »Please. Read again what Fernandez wrote. He is 100% correct.«

Then where is his working replication? Where is his schematic? Just waited for someone who is 100% correct and can therefore replicate the Kapanadze device (and others). What's still the problem here?


Hoppy: »A comment along the lines that - Uncle Lenz provides free energy - is simply unfounded and wishful thinking«

No, it's the other way round: Lenz's law does not apply to an overunity transformer. Overunity defeats Lenz's law, it is not created by it.

The one here claim to exactly know how all this works, but they are unable to provide anything solid. The other claim to exactly know how it NOT works, but they are also unable to provide anything solid. And so the chitchat goes on and on.


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #266 on: February 10, 2018, 04:57:10 PM »

No, it's the other way round: Lenz's law does not apply to an overunity transformer. Overunity defeats Lenz's law, it is not created by it.

The one here claim to exactly know how all this works, but they are unable to provide anything solid. The other claim to exactly know how it NOT works, but they are also unable to provide anything solid. And so the chitchat goes on and on.

Does a demonstratable overunity transformer exist to discount the action of Lenz's law?

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #267 on: February 10, 2018, 05:30:06 PM »

 And so the chitchat goes on and on.


Zeit,

Your damm right.
Problem is the theoretical guys think to much in theoretical physics and the practical guys "mostly" don t know how to implement the "new"ideas.

Should be productive if these two sides could team_up,..  due the large amount of information which is gathered...(must say in a very constructive and ordenairy way by you)

So can we do some simple definable tests to get out of this chitchat



greetings


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #268 on: February 10, 2018, 05:31:09 PM »

Zeitmaschine
You posted interesting circuit schematic in one of your posts.Instead of arguing please modify it into the most simple circuit which can take ordinary AC current and convert into two currents with phase shift , two fully rectified currents. Imho there is the chance it will match Kapanadze device from 2004 year video.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #269 on: February 10, 2018, 08:00:22 PM »
I officially give up on trying to have 'reasonable' discussions in these forums.  ;D

No matter how carefully a person might point out facts and evidence, or a clear lack of evidence
as the case may be, many people in these forums just *believe* what they want to believe regardless
of conflicting facts and evidence, or regardless of a lack of any real evidence to back up what they are saying. :)
I am talking about people on both sides of the 'belief fence' here.

There seems little chance of someone ever getting even close to the truth when a person is blinded by
presumptions and beliefs, and when they are unable to even tell the difference between their beliefs and
presumptions and things which are actually supportable with real world evidence and facts. If someone does point
out actual facts and evidence, or points out a lack of reasonable evidence supporting someone's claims, you are
often viewed as 'being very negative', regardless of how carefully and politely you point things out. When I look
around me and see everything that is going on in this world right now, I can only conclude that the vast majority of people
in this world are just not interested in facts and reality, and actually often become quite upset and angry if other
people point out how their beliefs or point of view is at odds with facts and reality.

It is of course completely reasonable to ask someone who is claiming to know how to produce a COP > 1
to show a clear demonstration of this COP > 1; but, things being what they are in this world, it would be very
foolish to hold your breath waiting for said person to actually back up their claims here with some sort of reasonable
and clear demonstration. It would in fact be a very rare event indeed if someone were to actually back up
claims here of a COP > 1 setup with a clear and proper demonstration, even though in the very least such a demonstration
should be a given requirement for making such a claim in a forum like this, given all the false and mistaken claims
about 'OU' people keep making in these forums and on Youtube etc., on a regular basis.
Good luck guys. :)

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