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Author Topic: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy  (Read 60094 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #285 on: February 12, 2018, 05:03:58 PM »
If you think you can get OU, or even VRSWR, from a chunk of a lug wrench or tire iron and a c-clamp ... good luck.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #286 on: February 12, 2018, 05:09:14 PM »
Jeg
There is no My forum ,the only proper forum is open source , and this [Stefan's] has always been home...

Peters forum OUR is passionately open source too ....


Chet
I am sorry for the misunderstanding. For some reason i always thought that you are the owner of the OUR forum. No disrespect to Stefan. I assumed that you were going to open a new thread over there so more heads to work on this. Didn't mean something different than an open source.

For sure what we see at the above block diagram is not anything close to OU. we need real current across the primaries and what we get at the output is more than conventional. It is always nice watching a transformer outputting a dc power signal but as already Fernandez mentioned... this is not FE. Read again his post about Tesla transformer.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #287 on: February 12, 2018, 06:27:34 PM »
TK
I happen to believe we could harvest energy from atmosphere or a  raindrop.

and the power grows exponentially from there .... with material Density !

But a resonator configured as Jeg [and seemingly Fernandez} suggests doesn't ring true with what my understanding would be [or others I have asked for advice thus far.

which is more inline with transmission line theory and cavity resonators...

However
that being said Steven Mark did say the environment does ring back to pulsed iron seemingly independent of specific frequencies...

I've yet to speak with anyone who can show this on the bench ? [plenty more fellows to ask tho...

no stone left unturned .

@ Jeg
no need to apologize to me .

This a confusing media indeed....[Lug wrenches and all..........

respectfully
Chet K
 


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #288 on: February 12, 2018, 07:08:46 PM »
Mr Ramset Chet

Yeah but wouldn't the electrons and atoms be already tightly bound up with photons in some kind of magnetic field, I think to do that you would have to pay a heavy conversion price. As far as I know electrons ant protons are just floating around you why not grab some of them ? All you have to do is charge them and drag them out of their holes  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #289 on: February 12, 2018, 07:28:55 PM »
Chet, unfortunately the Universe doesn't really care what any of us believes.

We do "get energy" from raindrops all the time though-- or more properly, raindrops act as the transfer medium, along with gravity, to transfer energy from the sun into our electric grids. Sun evaporates water and creates wind, wind transfers water vapour to higher altitudes where it condenses out as rainwater, which fills our dammed reservoirs, which then drain through hydroelectric generating turbines to yield electric power.

NMR is, at best, an energy _storage_ mechanism, and is usually an energy "loss" mechanism that results in applied energy being converted and dissipated as heat and/or mechanical vibration.


Allen, don't confuse "protons" with "holes". We almost never see free protons, except in acid solutions. Electricity works by knocking electrons free from atoms, leaving behind positively-charged "holes" where they used to be. The protons concerned are buried deep inside the nucleus, usually in intimate association with neutrons, and are relatively far, far away from even the innermost electron shell of an atom. The exceptions are "proton donors", aka acids, where some individual protons (hydrogen nuclei) are "de-shielded" (their electron cloud is pulled away by other atoms in the molecule) and are sticking out on the surface of their molecules, easy to be broken off, like HCl (hydrochloric acid) or H2SO4 (sulfuric acid). Free protons are dangerous things.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #290 on: February 12, 2018, 07:44:59 PM »
Chet, unfortunately the Universe doesn't really care what any of us believes.

That is very true. Even if people try to hang on to dead theories by inventing Dark Energy and Dark Matter, the universe does not care.

Funny thing about the rain drops. You can get energy from rain drops. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR2Quj2isIo

The universe does not care what we believe. It just is. The problem arises when we think the universe works like X, but in reality it is Y. In my opinion we have bee stuck for over a hundred years. We are still not an inch closer to understanding gravity or if we got gravity at all. I think this observation is the clearest sign, that we are looking in the wrong place. Looking in the wrong place comes from crap that has been stuffed into our throats for decades.

That is what I an other mean by using intuition and imagination. What would sound do? What would a water wave do? Then take that into electric design. We need to start looking for new ways of the stuff we have. Nature is simple and beautiful and why would OU be any different?

Only thing relevant is experiment. If you stop looking because Newton said something or Lenz wrote something we can just bury our heads into sand and quit. People want there to be laws, so they can get their name in a book. Nature has very few laws in my opinion (or closed systems...)

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #291 on: February 12, 2018, 08:30:59 PM »
Chet, unfortunately the Universe doesn't really care what any of us believes.

We do "get energy" from raindrops all the time though-- or more properly, raindrops act as the transfer medium, along with gravity, to transfer energy from the sun into our electric grids. Sun evaporates water and creates wind, wind transfers water vapour to higher altitudes where it condenses out as rainwater, which fills our dammed reservoirs, which then drain through hydroelectric generating turbines to yield electric power.

NMR is, at best, an energy _storage_ mechanism, and is usually an energy "loss" mechanism that results in applied energy being converted and dissipated as heat and/or mechanical vibration.


Allen, don't confuse "protons" with "holes". We almost never see free protons, except in acid solutions. Electricity works by knocking electrons free from atoms, leaving behind positively-charged "holes" where they used to be. The protons concerned are buried deep inside the nucleus, usually in intimate association with neutrons, and are relatively far, far away from even the innermost electron shell of an atom. The exceptions are "proton donors", aka acids, where some individual protons (hydrogen nuclei) are "de-shielded" (their electron cloud is pulled away by other atoms in the molecule) and are sticking out on the surface of their molecules, easy to be broken off, like HCl (hydrochloric acid) or H2SO4 (sulfuric acid). Free protons are dangerous things.
Hey you sound like a university professor or MIT lecturer  ;D ;D ;D I can't remember all that I was a younger guy then ! ;D ;D ;D my point was it's easier to grab electrons
than having to work hard to change something else  like we do already like burning it or doing it with chemicals and destroying the planet in the process.  8) 8) 8) unless you know a better way of course.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #292 on: February 12, 2018, 10:03:06 PM »
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Funny thing about the rain drops. You can get energy from rain drops. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR2Quj2isIo

Uh... not really. The energy in a Kelvin water-drop electrostatic generator comes from whatever you used to elevate the water, so it can fall through the apparatus. Ultimately this is solar energy. Just as before, the water drops are just tools, along with gravity, that are used to convert some of this solar energy into usable electricity.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #293 on: February 12, 2018, 11:41:12 PM »
Fine. From now on I will state that everything comes from the Sun. Not from a battery, wall outlet or a drop of water. Sun. Every time

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #294 on: February 12, 2018, 11:41:48 PM »
There are other ways to make sparks in water drops

sudden acceleration....


AG's  Photon  comment reminded me of the Bug with the sonic cannon.

always wanted to resonate this claw/cavity. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC6I8iPiHT8

9000 C  from a biological sono luminescent event caused by knocking a photon out of orbit.

sudden Acceleration causes things to happen....there's a lesson in there somewhere.

would like to get to Fernandez lesson first.




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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #295 on: February 13, 2018, 12:42:54 AM »
I think Tinsel k is referring to the static electricity from the two bottomless buckets experiment with the drops of water charging the buckets,
Struth how could I for get that one  ;D

A photon has no mas until it attaches to an electron but to become something like a solid abject it has to slow down it's spin rate or something like that
perhaps professor Tinsel could explain more on that theory ?

Allen (Moron In Training) ;D

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #296 on: February 13, 2018, 12:56:39 AM »
Quote from: ramset
sudden Acceleration causes things to happen....there's a lesson in there somewhere.

Well. First there is position.
And then there is change in position over time. That is velocity. The first derivative of position.
And then there is change in velocity over time. That is acceleration, the second derivative of position.
Do you remember what a change in acceleration over time is called? It's the third derivative of position.... called jerk.

Yes, there is a lesson in there somewhere.     :P

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #297 on: February 13, 2018, 01:01:22 AM »
Fine. From now on I will state that everything comes from the Sun. Not from a battery, wall outlet or a drop of water. Sun. Every time

You would not be far wrong. The major exception is energy from decay of radioactive elements, as in nuclear power plants and fission bombs. But even those radioactive elements were created in supernova explosions of stars, or are made from those elements by interference from us.  Nuclear fusion powers the sun, though...

Homework question: where does _fusion_ energy ultimately come from?  ;)

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #298 on: February 13, 2018, 01:13:50 AM »
I think Tinsel k is referring to the static electricity from the two bottomless buckets experiment with the drops of water charging the buckets,
Struth how could I for get that one  ;D

A photon has no mas until it attaches to an electron but to become something like a solid abject it has to slow down it's spin rate or something like that
perhaps professor Tinsel could explain more on that theory ?

Allen (Moron In Training) ;D

Er..... um.... ah..... well.....

Electrons don't have eternally fixed orbits around an atomic nucleus. They occupy orbital shells and suborbital levels within shells. These shells and levels represent energy levels, with greater energies further away from the nucleus, or in more complex shells. (The "shells" and "levels" are really probability distributions, some with really weird shapes.) When a photon with just the right energy comes along it can bump an electron from its normal "ground state" shell position into a higher one. When that happens the photon no longer exists, except as stored energy in the electron's new shell position. The electron doesn't want to stay there though, so it can "decay" back to the ground state by emitting one or more photons, spitting out the energy it took to get it up higher in the first place as photons. Say an UV photon comes along and bumps an electron up three discrete energy levels all at once. Then the electron could decay back down in three steps, emitting a lower energy photon at each step.
But neither the electron nor the photon are ever "solid objects". The electron is a probability cloud of charge and the photon is a discrete packet of electromagnetic energy. Our everyday intuitions about solid matter break down at the quantum scale. There are only eleven people on Earth who can understand these things, and neither you nor I are one of them.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #299 on: February 13, 2018, 04:45:34 AM »
https://chem.libretexts.org/Core/Physical_and_Theoretical_Chemistry/Quantum_Mechanics/09._The_Hydrogen_Atom/Atomic_Theory/Why_atoms_do_not_Collapse

"What this means is that within the tiny confines of the atom, the electron cannot really be regarded as a "particle" having a definite energy and location, so it is somewhat misleading to talk about the electron "falling into" the nucleus."

Does it mean that an electron is just an illusion created by God?  Is it not better to know about the creator himself rather than his creation because creation (properties of matter) may change as per the wish of the creator.    I mean if creator wishes the nucleus itself may spin around the electron!!


 

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