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Author Topic: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy  (Read 57013 times)

Offline Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #240 on: February 04, 2018, 01:53:12 PM »

Any luck so far swapping the frequencies?

Nothing my friend. There is still something missing. At least i have a board now with ten small transformers for hV which i can use it along with other experiments. But i still don't give up on this. I will post about this only if something hopeful will occur. ;)

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #241 on: February 04, 2018, 02:30:11 PM »
A board with ten small transformers for other high voltage experiments. That's an idea. But could also be, we need more than ten small transformers. Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, there are no small 50Hz high voltage transformers commercially available, except microwave oven transformers, but they are way to large for experimenting.


TESLA'S FIREBALL MACHINE

Could it be an idea, if we ignore the Barbosa-Leal patent (showing a kind of arc welder transformer) and instead we use a shorted coil step-up transformer, not a step-down one? To me that sounds more logical. The electrons attracted from ground are attracted by high voltage at 100Hz. Therefore, if we assume the energy of the electrons (negative charge) is in the high voltage, the 50Hz transformer should step it down, not up (seen towards the load). The question here is, will a shorted high voltage coil generate high voltage? I would rather tend to say no (schematic one), but with that kind of stuff all sorts of unforeseen things can happen. If the 50Hz high voltage coil is not shorted, then the setup generates 50Hz and 100Hz high voltage, phase-locked to each other; 50Hz is sinusoidal; 100Hz is pulsed. This is basically a setup like Tesla's two oscillator coils in synchronicity but at low frequency. One oscillator drives two frequencies. The two Tesla coils working in a frequency range of some KHz and thereby generating fireballs. So, could it be that low grid frequency can also generate something unusual? Both Tesla coils are connected to ground on their lower ends. The upper ends are connected together via a spark. Then should we perhaps connect also both high voltage transformers on one end to ground and on their other ends together? Actually that means connecting the secondary coils of two high voltage transformers in parallel, one runs at 50Hz and one at 100Hz, and both are also connected to ground, hence it is some kind of a short circuit anyway. Connecting the transformers in parallel could be done through a capacitor or - interestingly - through a spark gap as well. And then, at best, the setup will do nothing, at worst, it will burn up; or could there be a third option we are missing? However, we don't want to waste energy for the generation of useless fireballs, do we?

The 50Hz transformer works typically as step-up transformer (schematic two). But at zero-crossing of the 50Hz sinusoidal wave its secondary coil is biased by high voltage pulses of the 100Hz transformer, so it works at that point as a step-down transformer. Vice versa, the secondary coil of the 100Hz transformer is also biased by the 50Hz high voltage and therefore it could also work as step-down transformer. But since the 100Hz transformer is driven by a resonant circuit via a full wave rectifier, the step-down energy flux has nowhere to go but to charge up the resonant circuit. When the 50Hz and 100Hz wave (or pulse) is on its negative peak, there is no current in the closed circuit, means it should act like an open circuit. When the 50Hz wave is on its positive peak and the 100Hz wave (or pulse) is again on its negative peak, then there is a high current in the closed circuit. At zero crossing of the 50Hz wave the 100Hz wave (or pulse) is positive. So we have in that high voltage circuit either voltage positive or negative but no current, or current but no voltage. It oscillates from negative voltage to positive voltage to high current to positive voltage; negative-positive-current-positive-negative-positive-current-positive and so on. The high current should generate a strong magnetic field, maybe amplified by the previously attracted electrons. If one finds some suitable transformers for this, then it could really lead to a weird behavior of that setup. And, of course, this stays all in the scope of a wrong connected three-phase transformer. One high voltage at a higher frequency is imposed upon another at a lower frequency. Could it be that simple?


THE ETERNAL HOAX

One way or the other, it would be generally beneficial if we could get this to work. Because if we keep failing, then this means we are entitled to call Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa and Leal, Mark, Gray, Smith, Moray, Methernitha (even Tesla?) fakers and hoaxer on the behalf of the government. So it would be very pleasant for all sides if we could avoid this problem somehow (by success). It is simply not possible that after decades there is not one successful replication of any of those claims if they are real. Also it would be strange, at least, if these are hoaxes and they would have contrived all these hoaxes independently on their own accord. I cannot see any reason, why one should go through the length of such costly fakery without having a solid cause, namely an order from someone above to do it in such a coordinated manner.

All drawings in this thread marked as »KAPANADZE DEVICE« show at least ninety-nine percent of the Kapanadze and Stepanov diagram according to all available information. Now, either we can assume that the one percent missing is that miracle one percent that makes the device work, or, alternatively, there is no such miracle one percent and therefore this is all just a big hoax. What ever you prefer to believe.


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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #242 on: February 04, 2018, 02:53:17 PM »
Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, there are no small 50Hz high voltage transformers commercially available, except microwave oven transformers, but they are way to large for experimenting.

I found some good HV neon lamp transformers which can give up to 8KV at 50 Hz. But a very dangerous toy if you don't treat it right...

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #243 on: February 04, 2018, 03:07:47 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #244 on: February 04, 2018, 03:58:45 PM »
Many modern neon sign "transformers" are actually switch-mode power supplies and thus are unsuitable for Tesla-type experimentation.

It is easy, however, to build high voltage systems using simple ZVS drivers and old CRT TV flyback transformers. These will not be operating at 50-60 Hz though; they use low voltage DC input and oscillate at the resonant frequency of the flyback secondary for the greatest output (generally in the 20-40 kHz range).  If you really need HV output at 50 Hz there are ways of converting the flyback transformer's output down to that low frequency.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #245 on: February 04, 2018, 04:05:37 PM »
 
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Ingvar: take the scheme of the coach without condors and connect it to the power supply to the bridge key where + and -. The coil of the coach will be the resonator.  The key in the bridge should work with the frequency KACHERA !!!  A bifilar is placed near the coil of the caterpillar.

Got that? Simple.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #246 on: February 04, 2018, 10:49:04 PM »
THE ETERNAL HOAX

One way or the other, it would be generally beneficial if we could get this to work. Because if we keep failing, then this means we are entitled to call Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa and Leal, Mark, Gray, Smith, Moray, Methernitha (even Tesla?) fakers and hoaxer on the behalf of the government.

Your not entitled to call anyone anything. All of you are guilty of applying traditional thinking to a device that doesn't work in traditional ways.

So it would be very pleasant for all sides if we could avoid this problem somehow (by success). It is simply not possible that after decades there is not one successful replication of any of those claims if they are real. Also it would be strange, at least, if these are hoaxes and they would have contrived all these hoaxes independently on their own accord. I cannot see any reason, why one should go through the length of such costly fakery without having a solid cause, namely an order from someone above to do it in such a coordinated manner.

Ok, look stop thinking about PRIMARY and SECONDARY. It just doesn't work like that. Forget the secondary its just a coil to remove energy THAT'S ALL. Also forget funky coil winding like bifiler...etc.
You need to build a resonator, start with iron, cut a tire iron into a straight piece, using a C-Clamp will close the magnetic circuit. Thats cheap and easy. There are two primary coils, A/C input or pulsed will be ok. Also its 1/2 wave each coil (PRIMARY) Get that iron moving, can you get it to vibrate real fast? or can you get the energy to chase its tail?  How hot can you get it with low power?

Of course a secondary coil is used to remove energy BUT you need to collect it first so forget the secondary and build a resonator.
Good Luck.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #247 on: February 05, 2018, 03:30:08 AM »
Fernandez: »Your not entitled to call anyone anything.«

Sure. But Kapanadze and others are entitled to give us (and the whole world) the run-around? Think about that.

Fernandez: »Of course a secondary coil is used to remove energy BUT you need to collect it first so forget the secondary and build a resonator.«

Like this? Does the aquarium wiring of the three-phase transformer look familiar when compared with the second schematic above? Drawing from page 873.

If both 0.5 Ohm coils are low voltage then the 88 and 80 Ohm coils are high voltage connected in parallel and one side to ground. The 78 Ohm coil (third transformer) is not needed, thus not connected. Is one 0.5 Ohm coil connected to the frequency doubler circuit and the other 0.5 Ohm coil to the load? Since that device is not connected to grid or inverter, the frequency is unknown. It could be 200 and 400Hz instead of 50 and 100Hz. So, is this all hidden in plain view? Are we closer now than ever and we can end that nonsense game soon?

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #248 on: February 05, 2018, 10:52:56 AM »
There will always be nagging doubts about the authenticity of the Aqua device with the shot below showing the silver braided ground wire connected (under insulation) to a copper braided wire and a second yellowish coloured wire. The silver braid is not a solid conventional braided earth strap, its a hollow but flattened tubular braid.

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #249 on: February 05, 2018, 05:38:30 PM »
There will always be nagging doubts about the authenticity of the Aqua device with the shot below showing the silver braided ground wire connected (under insulation) to a copper braided wire and a second yellowish coloured wire. The silver braid is not a solid conventional braided earth strap, its a hollow but flattened tubular braid.
Looks a right birds nest! haven't you fathomed out how it works yet ? he has don it like that so any viewer cant get any where with it and if any one did  and you paid
for it you would never get your investment back. a bit of a white elephant.

The Daily device must work different totally to that idea with the way its shown, if it works at all.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #250 on: February 05, 2018, 06:22:19 PM »

Looks a right birds nest! haven't you fathomed out how it works yet ?

I have a good idea how it works but does not work as claimed.  ;)

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #251 on: February 05, 2018, 07:27:54 PM »
Fernandez quote

 All of you are guilty of applying traditional thinking to a device that doesn't work in traditional ways.
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Ok, look stop thinking about PRIMARY and SECONDARY. It just doesn't work like that. Forget the secondary its just a coil to remove energy THAT'S ALL. Also forget funky coil winding like bifiler...etc.
You need to build a resonator, start with iron, cut a tire iron into a straight piece, using a C-Clamp will close the magnetic circuit. Thats cheap and easy. There are two primary coils, A/C input or pulsed will be ok. Also its 1/2 wave each coil (PRIMARY) Get that iron moving, can you get it to vibrate real fast? or can you get the energy to chase its tail? How hot can you get it with low power?


Of course a secondary coil is used to remove energy BUT you need to collect it first so forget the secondary and build a resonator.
Good Luck.
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Sir
this sounds a lot like a path member Verpies had  suggested.

Not meaning to distract here
could you draw a simple block schematic for this suggestion [C clamp placement, primary orientation etc etc ]
seems too easy to not try !!

respectfully
Chet K

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #252 on: February 05, 2018, 07:44:27 PM »
Fernandez: »Your not entitled to call anyone anything.«

Sure. But Kapanadze and others are entitled to give us (and the whole world) the run-around? Think about that.

Fernandez: »Of course a secondary coil is used to remove energy BUT you need to collect it first so forget the secondary and build a resonator.«

Like this? Does the aquarium wiring of the three-phase transformer look familiar when compared with the second schematic above? Drawing from page 873.

If both 0.5 Ohm coils are low voltage then the 88 and 80 Ohm coils are high voltage connected in parallel and one side to ground. The 78 Ohm coil (third transformer) is not needed, thus not connected. Is one 0.5 Ohm coil connected to the frequency doubler circuit and the other 0.5 Ohm coil to the load? Since that device is not connected to grid or inverter, the frequency is unknown. It could be 200 and 400Hz instead of 50 and 100Hz. So, is this all hidden in plain view? Are we closer now than ever and we can end that nonsense game soon?

This is a small 3-phase transformer from the Soviet clone IBM-360  MainFrames (  EC-EVM )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ES_EVM

Its output power is about 200 watts.
After dismantling and recycling in the late 90's a lot of these transformers ended up on landfills and flea markets.
They are not suitable for use in the household.

Transistor TESLA in the background from the factory "Tesla"  in the former Czechoslovakia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_(Czechoslovak_company)
It has nothing to do with Elon Musk.
Ordinary transistors from flea markets, feature - relatively high-frequency, but not very high:

KU601    NPN,     50V    3A    20..73    10W    TO-3
KU602    NPN,    80V    3A    20..73    10W    TO-3
KU605    NPN,     80V    10A    10..50    50W    TO-3
KU606    NPN,     60V    8A    10..50    50W    TO-3
KU607    NPN,     80V    10A    40    70W    TO-3
KU608    NPN,     80V    10A    >10    70W    TO-3
KU611    NPN,     60V    3A    20..90    10W    TO-66/1
KU612    NPN,     80V    3A    20..90    10W    TO-66/1


Sample

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #253 on: February 05, 2018, 10:24:04 PM »

Sir
this sounds a lot like a path member Verpies had  suggested.

Not meaning to distract here
could you draw a simple block schematic for this suggestion [C clamp placement, primary orientation etc etc ]
seems too easy to not try !!

respectfully
Chet K
Hi Chet :)
Is it possible for a link to Verpies suggestion? Out of Fernandez description looks like Leedskalnin PMH?

Regards

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Re: Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy
« Reply #254 on: February 05, 2018, 11:29:05 PM »
Jeg
 Verpies and others feel that NMR Could be a path to this result [harvesting from the reaction]
It is this "resonator"  {NMR} which I believe Fernandez refers too..... two "half wave" coils [NMR frequency of iron ??]

Your leedskalin PMH architecture does seem how it would be built ?
the "Chasing" comment...

I would love a block diagram/schem to be certain ?

and it also has a TPU ring to it if this is true [circular drive /PMH ??

I like the concept of looking for heat at lower than normal inputs... but would appreciate a bit more direction and feedback.....
as I am sure many builders here would too.

bench time is a very precious commodity .

respectfully
Chet K
PS
Verpies did post many charts for NMR frequencies ...they are available in web searches.

however I would like to check against Verpies Charts [He's a schmart guy








 

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