You say Tinman is a Fumbling Bench Putz ??

Prove it.

Get real Chet, your words not mine.  You haven't seen threads before around Brad's builds where people like Poynt engage with him and the tension increases and increases because of basic disagreements over what is taking place in the experiment?  "We don't see eye to eye" - you haven't seen that before?  "Prove to me that magnets are not a source of energy" - how many times have you seen that battle?  You are in a mental prison of your own making and you can't speak the truth.  It must be awful.

But forget that, what is this thread about?  It's about basic electronics, not a bench experiment.  Sadly there was a failed attempt by Brad and others to answer a very simple and basic question by themselves.  It's fundamental knowledge that can also be used on the bench.  It's mind-blowing that people can play on a bench for years and years and not understand the most rudimentary and basic stuff about electronics but clearly it happens all the time.

It's no surprise, you are completely and utterly lost.  After all that work.

"You place a voltage source across a voltage source?"  You have got to be kidding.

No, the water simply starts to slow down, it does not "disappear."  It's bloody rocket science.

No--you place a voltage across a current flow,where that voltage is ideal,and wants to create a current flow in the opposite direction to that of what already exist.

So limited in your thinking.

Yes they do MH. But just because something vibrates at it's natural resonant frequency,dose not mean it is resonating. When something is resonating,it is vibrating at it's natural frequency at maximum amplitude to that of a given input.
It would pay you to learn the basics before trying to teach people.

Brad

Right now I need TK's emoticon for the head banging against a wall.

If you could only think properly about certain situations and have some basic intuitive sense and had the ability to apply knowledge about one situation to a different but related situation, but apparently sometimes that is an impossible thing for you to do.  The fact that you can't realize or intuitively or scientifically understand that the bell is resonating after you strike it is mind boggling to me.  You are just making a fool of yourself without being aware of it.  You clearly believe that what you are saying is making sense and nothing is going to get through to you.  However, not being able to get through to you is no surprise.

I suppose it's also possible that since you started this discussion about resonance and got off on the wrong track, that your inability to admit that you are wrong means that you are psychologically compelled to "stick to your story," even though it is completely ridiculous.  So it's possible that you literally have a mental block, and admitting that the bell is resonating after you strike it is an impossible thing for you to do.  Your compulsion to refuse to admit that your original understanding was wrong literally forces you to state that the bell is not resonating after you strike it.  For you to admit that the bell was resonating would cause some kind of psychological implosion in your psyche.

Miles Quote to TinMan
""Bullshit, and you are nothing more than a bench tinkerer that barely knows what he is doing but believes that he knows it all.  You have been fully exposed, and it was about time, and it's not a pretty sight at all.""

end Quote

So I used a few less colorful words
your theme is and always has been self evident regarding Tinman.

and actually it has been your entire issue with most members here that experiment with resonance or timing or pulsing etc etc ad nauseum   infinitum 

Absolutely anything which has to do with the Blasphemous topic of Morons

                 Over unity

Miles Quote
" I can't wait to put this to bed once and for all""
end quote

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so on this side of the line above ...we have a man Tinman who has made a discovery in which he claims he can make magnets do work and get more out than in ...has a unique understanding of the interaction between Magnets and inductors.
 
  Miles feels the need to Put this guy in his place and show all here by Default that such a man could never
make such a discovery ,    and you have even recently started mumbling his name in sentences with noteworthy
dubious fraudsters ..

that's the real jist of what this is truly all about.

Only one clear resolution here ..

a contest !!



@ Note to Minnion above
If you don't live forever may you at least have the Glory of coming back as a particular type of beetle which holds the same passion for that pile............

I have to hand it too you John
You are a character !!
 
Hugz

 

Miles
The technical discussion around Brad and his ability took Place quite some time ago,
You remember

Mark E and several other talented Fellows took his Rotary transformer thru every conceivable test
allowed at that time.

and they were stumped as to how he was getting this energy into the system.

Mark E was hired to investigate claims , he was Quite brilliant.

                                              Stumped !

It was the first and only time that I personally witnessed this happen here.

and Now you Play the Pink Panther ....



 

 

I have very high respect for Brads knowledge and abilities. I find he and I and some others, like Luc, think ahead on ideas, many times whether we are right or wrong, we are deep thinkers. We dont just sit back and be satisfied with what is supposedly known throughout the tech world.

For example. I had argued that the 50% loss in the cap to cap was not due to resistance, off and on for how many years now. Finally with some further, this way and that way and other ways of getting my reasoning through to you guys, and now just the other day Poynt finally agreed with me in the cap to cap thread. Even found some links to back up my thoughts. I really giggled at the one that stated that resistance, no matter what the value, 0ohm and up, only changed the time of the transfer from cap to cap.  I had stated that was what I believed a day or 2 earlier here. And the big thing that got it for me was thinking deeper and basing those beliefs on the electron imbalance count, as I call it.

Not many if any others had put up the idea here such as I had. Not saying I beat anyone. Im just glad it was resolved and we can move on to find other deeper ideas or things that just dont seem right and bring them out here, or anywhere.  Like I could have just accepted what you guys said that resistance was the cause of the loss and never discuss it or 'think' of it any 'further' than that. But my thoughts on it being deeper than that, found an answer to an argument that we have had for some time. Calling me a know nothing wanna be, or what ever.

Thinking deeper than the surface arguments here develops legit questions that should not be written off as nonsense. And if Brad has something to say in contrast, rather than brush it off as a waste of time, perhaps you should look deeper than the surface and try to understand where he is coming from before bashing him as not knowing anything at all, because that is not the case. Not in my book.

Mags

Mags,

You do agree however that if we measure the energy burned up in the total circuit resistance involved in cap to cap transfers, it will indicate half of the total energy?

Do you not also agree that the value of the total circuit resistance makes no difference in the energy and that it does indeed always dissipate half the starting energy and that it determines the tau of the transfer?

The 0 Ohms case seems to be a special case, and one that we can not achieve.

  Challenge to the tinman, who can come up with the biggest
 pile of crap?
   John.

Nice self portrait there John.


Brad