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Author Topic: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )  (Read 614708 times)

thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #810 on: January 24, 2015, 03:05:29 AM »
This topic has gone too far; there are two topics at overunity or free energy devices really work one of them Kapanadze's device and the other is syahputra device; one of them is mystery to us but this topic isn't.

I hate that people couldn't see the pattern; ok they are hard to replicate or not as simple as joule tief.
if you had saw it patenting issues wont bering you any good, becouse you need to back it up that patent by petrolium fed goverments like it or not.(or if it is possiple?)


Kapanadze device static electricity vertion of this device but no running disks exept electrons as like as in the transmission lines (wave propagation.. L-Network..tank circuit..)
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Pirate88179

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #811 on: January 24, 2015, 03:42:46 AM »
Quote from: thngr on January 24, 2015, 03:05:29 AM

This topic has gone too far; there are two topics at overunity or free energy devices really work one of them Kapanadze's device and the other is syahputra device; one of them is mystery to us but this topic isn't.



Where is the proof that any of these devices really work?  I have not seen it.  I was the one that started the Kapanadze topic as it appeared to be something worthy of study.  But, as time has passed, there are no real working replications, no proof, no real 3rd party testing so I ask again, where is the proof?

Bill
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thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #812 on: January 24, 2015, 07:05:39 AM »
Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 24, 2015, 03:42:46 AM
Where is the proof that any of these devices really work?  I have not seen it.  I was the one that started the Kapanadze topic as it appeared to be something worthy of study.  But, as time has passed, there are no real working replications, no proof, no real 3rd party testing so I ask again, where is the proof?

Bill


there is no need for proof when it is logical and countable and calculable.
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Pirate88179

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #813 on: January 24, 2015, 09:51:00 AM »
Quote from: thngr on January 24, 2015, 07:05:39 AM

there is no need for proof when it is logical and countable and calculable.

No need for proof?  Well...OK..if that is your stance....

I really doubt that that will hold up under scientific scrutiny.

Bill
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Jimboot

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #814 on: January 24, 2015, 11:41:52 AM »
Quote from: thngr on January 24, 2015, 03:05:29 AM
This topic has gone too far; there are two topics at overunity or free energy devices really work one of them Kapanadze's device and the other is syahputra device; one of them is mystery to us but this topic isn't.

I hate that people couldn't see the pattern; ok they are hard to replicate or not as simple as joule tief.
if you had saw it patenting issues wont bering you any good, becouse you need to back it up that patent by petrolium fed goverments like it or not.(or if it is possiple?)


Kapanadze device static electricity vertion of this device but no running disks exept electrons as like as in the transmission lines (wave propagation.. L-Network..tank circuit..)
Yep it's difficult but I believe we are progressing. As far as Im concerned the proof will be a self runner. These days anything short of that seems to end in tears.
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thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #815 on: January 24, 2015, 05:05:48 PM »
than two of you do not have any skills at math and physics. some times research means math like discovering planets. Pluto and Uranus discovered by math and physics first!

Nikola Tesla:
If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found the object of his search.
I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor.

Who needs proof? Demanding money from non-physicist needs proof. who needs money? who do not know "how its done?" can do only with money. Knowing man can do it at the cave.

Try Harder to Understand.
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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #816 on: January 24, 2015, 11:12:51 PM »
Thngr

You guys are wasting time and space right now talking about PROOF and NO PROOF. Both types of builders are necessary in a quest as this where no man has walked before. If one who knows only numbers can calculate on paper a workable theory he can not build it and bring it to full circle without having a mechanical man who likely is not a  physics major build it. The same man may not be able to get a working drawing if he, reacting only on known laws and information,  runs out of these known items. We still do not know all that we will know tomorrow. Lets get on with builds if that is what you do. Those that do the numbers can wait for your builds and prove or disprove them or get a pad and pencil going on this project and tell us what we could do better. You will notice that when going back and forth, you are going in circles and no one goes forward.

Prochiro
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thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #817 on: January 25, 2015, 12:57:20 AM »
I have said I had found what I was looking for. if you are looking for free energy this it I mean. My aim was to draw your attention to this topic. I do not like debate. May be some one who has so many skills could help us for proof that everyone needs. (physicist, mathematician, theoretician, turner, shaper)
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Jimboot

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #818 on: January 25, 2015, 01:12:49 AM »
Quote from: prochiro on January 24, 2015, 11:12:51 PM
Thngr

You guys are wasting time and space right now talking about PROOF and NO PROOF. Both types of builders are necessary in a quest as this where no man has walked before. If one who knows only numbers can calculate on paper a workable theory he can not build it and bring it to full circle without having a mechanical man who likely is not a  physics major build it. The same man may not be able to get a working drawing if he, reacting only on known laws and information,  runs out of these known items. We still do not know all that we will know tomorrow. Lets get on with builds if that is what you do. Those that do the numbers can wait for your builds and prove or disprove them or get a pad and pencil going on this project and tell us what we could do better. You will notice that when going back and forth, you are going in circles and no one goes forward.

Prochiro
Hey Prochiro,
After having watched Theoria's vids where he uses his holographic flux viewer, I am far less inclined refer to some of those old school diagrams of magnetic flux. For me he has clearly demonstrated it's something very different and I'm building with that in mind.
My brain would melt before I completed all the math so I build, test and refer to Boyd Bushman - "Follow the data, theory be damned" :)
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thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #819 on: January 25, 2015, 01:49:58 AM »
Ultimately my model will finish and impatience of me will last. I won't remember bad words that have spoken! I have no traps or mockery as valuable to you.
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Jimboot

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #820 on: January 25, 2015, 02:12:48 AM »
Quote from: thngr on January 25, 2015, 01:49:58 AM
Ultimately my model will finish and impatience of me will last. I won't remember bad words that have spoken! I have no traps or mockery as valuable to you.
Are you using Google translate? It sometimes reads that way.
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shylo

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #821 on: January 25, 2015, 02:17:10 AM »
trying to add attachment If it loads read the chapter about using Ac to make Dc
artv
The file is too big it's a book published in 1893 from the university of california Maybe someone here has the same and can load the chapter?
Tesla uses an Ac generator to power two sepreate Dc outputs where one side consumes but the other dosen't ,then he flips them to correspond with the Ac in.
Drawing off the one that dosen't consume?? I think.
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thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #822 on: January 25, 2015, 02:19:32 AM »
to Jimboot,
No it is not! below is what google translates:
"I've written my impatience results and this work will succeed in the end, but do not think I remember the bad words spoken, I do not collect them."

and this too far what I've ment to say
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thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #823 on: January 25, 2015, 02:38:43 AM »
Quote from: shylo on January 25, 2015, 02:17:10 AM
trying to add attachment If it loads read the chapter about using Ac to make Dc
artv
The file is too big it's a book published in 1893 from the university of california Maybe someone here has the same and can load the chapter?
Tesla uses an Ac generator to power two sepreate Dc outputs where one side consumes but the other dosen't ,then he flips them to correspond with the Ac in.
Drawing off the one that dosen't consume?? I think.


Print Screen Key is usefull some times to share it with us, at least a part of it.(paste it to the paint program)
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thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #824 on: January 25, 2015, 03:02:39 AM »
Quote from: Mister Caribbean Roots on January 25, 2015, 02:48:52 AM
At T-1000,

This one is for you... ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTL7Pvtm-3s

Info about it is in the comment section... ;D
I just found out that there is here a time frame in which one can modify his own postings... ??? ...which i find a little odd...lol


thanks anyway I've saw the video for the first time, Eddy currents that we don't like in generators.
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