Author Topic: Magdrive HHO Generators (Read 124473 times)

IronHead · « **Reply #120 on:** March 07, 2007, 12:05:27 AM »

Let me rephrase this, DUDE ITS OK FOR YOU TO DO IT.
You dont want people doing it that way if there is a failure , get it?

Everyone else that is not a master mechanic or have an installed HHO system don't hook to break booster period!

Here is a close up for yaz, yup I am shaking abit . This is a lot of HHO in a glass bottle with alligator clips in the zone , DON'T DO THIS!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoEXaNnBRPo

h20power · « **Reply #121 on:** March 07, 2007, 12:55:00 AM »

Now thats sweet, great gas production Ironhead. How many amp you using? I am now making the electronics and a new Myer's type cell. The EDS cell (Joe cell) is just about done, getting great results with it. Lost of charged water that is holding a charge for more than 36 hours of .34 volts. @ .76 volts at 24 hours. It only takes .2-1.06 amps to run the cell so I will leave it hook up. I shocked the crap out of me when I just reached in and grabed the tubes, just like a capcitor, it released it's charge all at onece and was over quickly, thank God. The Myer's type cell is very different in the way it needs to be constructed, plus the electronics should only take 100m-6max amps to produce large amounts of gas with no salts of any kind added to the water. Salts added to this kind of set up just messes the whole thing up. When I am done I will hook them both up to engines, so it will be a two cell system. Magdrive has a four cell that's doing great things, and this two cell will do so as well

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Moab · « **Reply #122 on:** March 07, 2007, 03:53:31 AM »

Here is another Ironhead style glass HHO test run, Pure tap water nothing addad. 1/8'' rods left Pure stainless right Pure tungston. Full wave bridge 109V/35A DC. Water temp was from 150-180F during the run. Best temp is between 140-170*F Start amps 1.6 from room temp-150F .06amp after. In the vid the water is a little to hot but you get the idea. Ironhead knows his stuff. Once you get to 140* things heat up real fast. A cooling devise would be needed for extended runs. Still for the amps the best HHO for the money. yes its HHO and it dose pop!

hartiberlin · « **Reply #123 on:** March 07, 2007, 06:41:28 AM »

Hi Moab,
are you sure, it is HHO gas coming out and not just steam ?
Maybe the water is just boiling ?

It reminds me a lot of water experiments I did,
when I used 2 Tungsten rods in Water with K2CO3
added...
Without the K2CO3 it would have looked like this.
But then the bubbles were only steam, like cooking and boiling water
generates bubbles..

2. There is a video on Youtube from the same
poster SGIHUNTER ( Is this our user Ironhead ?)

That shows an amazing cold fusion arc under water and claims
overunity heat output.
Have a look at this, it is said to need only about 12 Watts input:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeTQW2pH2Oc

Regards, Stefan.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #124 on:** March 07, 2007, 07:11:03 AM »

Okay, I should probably move this topic to a different thread,
but as it seems to come from user Ironhead I let it stay here for a while
now.
Here is another video of the cold fusion arc:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RICa4OW38bI

He says in the desciption:

A closeup video of the hydrogen plasma surrounding the tungsten cathode in a plasma electrolysis cell. Basically it's the surface of the sun in a beaker.

With about 150 volts DC applied to aquious sodium chloride elecrolyte through tungsten electrodes. The cathode is made to have a much smaller surface area than the anode so that the hydrogen produced on it surrounds it and forces the current to arc through it, turning it into plasma.

otto · « **Reply #125 on:** March 07, 2007, 07:38:06 AM »

Hello all,
Stefan,

I worked a long time with this stuff. I can say yes, its overunity heat output and yes, it is hydrogen that you get but the problm is that with the arc you split the H2O but as the bubbles travells through the water they combine again to H2O and so you have not so much hydrogen.
Maybe if we could change the frequency of the arc....

Otto

hartiberlin · « **Reply #126 on:** March 07, 2007, 08:11:48 AM »

Hi Otto and all,
if this just could be used as an overunity heating system for the winter,
that would be great ! Just with 12 Watts input a several orders more Watts heat output !
That would be really great !
I hope the inventor comes forward and tell us the exact setup
and the circuit he used to power it.
Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

h20power · « **Reply #127 on:** March 07, 2007, 10:11:46 AM »

HI all
Hello Stefan

I like Ironheads video better, it has music,

.
I wonder if the high DC voltage is a part of voltage work theory

, seems like it. That's why stanley Myer's invention works, sweet deal.

otto · « **Reply #128 on:** March 07, 2007, 01:00:50 PM »

Hello Stefan,

yes that was my idea too and so I made such a system last year in my house but had to disconnect everything because winter was comming... so far I can say is that such a heating looks very promising but I had not the time to test everything.
My idea was to heat my water with a plate heat exchanger and this was a good idea but there are a lot of problems and as I sayd no time before winter to solve this problems. I wanted to continue this year but Im working on the TPU....

Otto

idnick · « **Reply #129 on:** March 07, 2007, 05:07:54 PM »

Quote from: otto on March 07, 2007, 07:38:06 AM

Hello all,
Stefan,

I worked a long time with this stuff. I can say yes, its overunity heat output and yes, it is hydrogen that you get but the problm is that with the arc you split the H2O but as the bubbles travells through the water they combine again to H2O and so you have not so much hydrogen.
Maybe if we could change the frequency of the arc....

Otto

Maybe use vacuum on the system??

Just might work

Moab · « **Reply #130 on:** March 07, 2007, 08:45:32 PM »

Why are there so few views of this video? Stan explains how to split the water molecule in detail. there are a few more on google video,watch them and pay attention!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRXlm5AO9mY&mode=related&search=

IronHead · « **Reply #131 on:** March 08, 2007, 12:04:10 AM »

Ok guys you are looking at 2 different system on my Youtube page SGiHunter.
The plasma heater for heat and the HHO system.

The HHO system is Hydrogen Oxygen production at 150F degrees 90VDC
It must stay at this temp or it will steam very fast so it must be cooled with radiator. This is why I am running the bench system for a shot time . If I ran it longer you would see steam billow " A hell of a lot in a very short time" from the canister.

So what you are seeing is a dirty quick build bench top version of the system I run in my vehicle.That system design is on page 5 . I will soon be removing this system from my vehicle ,to remove and replace the Silver with Nitronic as the Silver is breaking down .
Do not use Tungsten in this system on the oxygen side, It will dissolve.

People are asking me how much gas is produced .I am no scientist I build what works for a given application. So this system on "page 5" produces enough for what I need it to do , get more bang for the buck on a big block 454ci engine.

BTW "Moab"great job you are on the top of my list of just do-ers . The "Just done it" list as it were.
You did it with out a zillion question about this that and the other scientific blah blah. Keep up the good builds

This is a very complicated system to run in a vehicle.
If you want something easy and that is proven ,buy a MagDrive

Just Build It
just do it!

IronHead

IronHead · « **Reply #132 on:** March 08, 2007, 12:40:28 AM »

Ok now,
The cold fusion plasma system.
One 1/8 tungsten welding rod (Green Tip)
One 100 micron 316L stainless steel Paint sprayer Graco filter mesh 1"Dia x 4"long.Make sure the rod is right in the center of the screen tube.Make all connection solid and arc outside the water will go BOOM.
Now on the Tungsten you must cover with Teflon(Good for last hours) or coat in ceramic (Prefered last for months) all of the rod except for about 1/2" at the tip arc end.
120AC rectified and non smoothed. You get about 118vdc 120hz.Start up is 30 amps final at high temp is from 1.0 to 0.1amps

This is a good start.
Now you will not see a reaction in this till you hear it start to vibrate at about 130*F
At 150F to 160F you will get your arc .This can take from 10 min to 1 hour depending on your water. Adding abit of baking soda will help but will also raise start up amps.
baking soda also reduces Magnetite.

This type of system has run for months ( Rod adjustment weekly)before rebuild using a radiator to keep temps at bay.150F to 200F do not let it go below 150 as it will become unstable.

If you can move this thread for me "hartiberlin" from page 5 on.
I will tell yaz about Feqs for both system not everything but enough for you to see and BANG--BOOM for yourselfs. Just don"t hurts yourselfs , I dont need that on my poor fragile mind

Just Build It
IronHead

otto · « **Reply #133 on:** March 08, 2007, 07:39:03 AM »

Hello all,
IronHead,
I was working a lot with this cold fusion system and as I can say its OK BUT there is a big problem: the tungsten welding rod is consumed!!! This means that the welding rod is thinner and thinner and in 1 hour work you can clearly see the rod is thinner.

Of course there MUST be baking soda in the water or and the vibrations are really loud and of course you can see it.

A warning: the water is boiling.

About the system on page 5. Maybe you could make a drawing with the dimensoins, if not asked too much??

Otto

IronHead · « **Reply #134 on:** March 08, 2007, 12:36:06 PM »

Quote from: otto on March 08, 2007, 07:39:03 AM

Hello all,
IronHead,
I was working a lot with this cold fusion system and as I can say its OK BUT there is a big problem: the tungsten welding rod is consumed!!! This means that the welding rod is thinner and thinner and in 1 hour work you can clearly see the rod is thinner.

Of course there MUST be baking soda in the water or and the vibrations are really loud and of course you can see it.

A warning: the water is boiling.

About the system on page 5. Maybe you could make a drawing with the dimensoins, if not asked too much??

Otto

For the CF Plasma Cell
Your arc was to hot . I will post pics of a rod that ran for 30 hours straight using the method im am using. Notice the reaction in my cell is not white hot.
Also this is a circulatory heater and is not to be run constantly. I will explain this further,ether when the post is moved or when I start a new one .

IronHead

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