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Author Topic: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.  (Read 243752 times)

synchro1

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #90 on: December 03, 2014, 02:27:37 AM »
@MarkE,

Answer this question: My run away effect Reed Switch motor consisted of a diametricly polarized tube magnet spinner on a race of precision bearings running at around 25K rpm. My 12 volt Reed Switch was wired in series with a 12 volt battery. What happened to the power coil when the Reed Switch stuck in the closed positon over the operating limit at that rpm range where the self acceleration started? Would you find it fair to say that the tiny thread spool air core series bifilar wraped coil then transitioned to function as an output coil?

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #91 on: December 03, 2014, 03:12:50 AM »
@MarkE,

Answer this question: My run away effect Reed Switch motor consisted of a diametricly polarized tube magnet spinner on a race of precision bearings running at around 25K rpm. My 12 volt Reed Switch was wired in series with a 12 volt battery. What happened to the power coil when the Reed Switch stuck in the closed positon over the operating limit at that rpm range where the self acceleration started? Would you find it fair to say that the tiny thread spool air core series bifilar wraped coil then transitioned to function as an output coil?
You've got two sentences that are difficult to parse.  Are you asking what happened when your commutator froze?  There should have been a large deceleration vector operating on your spinning mass, and that would have caused the thing to torque violently.

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #92 on: December 03, 2014, 03:19:49 PM »
@MarkE,

The question I asked was: Would it be fair to classify the coil as an "OUTPUT COIL" after the dead short to the battery? 
 
Let me add that I built the circuit as simply as possible just to test  the rotor bearings. The effct I described was unsought for and completely unanticipated.

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #93 on: December 03, 2014, 07:01:28 PM »
@MarkE,

The question I asked was: Would it be fair to classify the coil as an "OUTPUT COIL" after the dead short to the battery? 
 
Let me add that I built the circuit as simply as possible just to test  the rotor bearings. The effct I described was unsought for and completely unanticipated.
Do you have a schematic and /or pictures somewhere?

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #94 on: December 03, 2014, 07:48:15 PM »
@MarkE,

Help yourself to the "Bearingless Bedini" thread hosted by Jonny Davro on the Energetic forum.
 
Pilot skill is required to "Fly" the self accelerating rotor. The position of the coil needs to be constantly moved a very tiny amount to keep inside the "Neutral Zone" or the effect will vanish. I assume the coil transitions to ouput because the very powerfull 1" diameter neo tube at 25K is generating more power in the coil then the battery can deliver. "Lenz Delay" theory explains the propulsion. The 12 volt relay positioner located at the rear of the core's magnet stack on the GAP design would need to be piloted the same way. The "Neutral Zone" shifts it's position as the rotor flux increase with speed. Constant fine repositioning would be required to sustain the self acceleration.
 

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #95 on: December 05, 2014, 05:50:23 PM »
Here's a very simple positioner concept:

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #96 on: December 05, 2014, 07:35:06 PM »
@MarkE,

Help yourself to the "Bearingless Bedini" thread hosted by Jonny Davro on the Energetic forum.
 
Pilot skill is required to "Fly" the self accelerating rotor. The position of the coil needs to be constantly moved a very tiny amount to keep inside the "Neutral Zone" or the effect will vanish. I assume the coil transitions to ouput because the very powerfull 1" diameter neo tube at 25K is generating more power in the coil then the battery can deliver. "Lenz Delay" theory explains the propulsion. The 12 volt relay positioner located at the rear of the core's magnet stack on the GAP design would need to be piloted the same way. The "Neutral Zone" shifts it's position as the rotor flux increase with speed. Constant fine repositioning would be required to sustain the self acceleration.
Synchro1 if you are going to ask questions about something I think it is only fair that you present what it is that you are asking about.  If you want to pick something from over there and ask about it I think that is fine, but please either bring over here or point to the specific thing which interests you.

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #97 on: December 05, 2014, 09:11:51 PM »
Synchro1 if you are going to ask questions about something I think it is only fair that you present what it is that you are asking about.  If you want to pick something from over there and ask about it I think that is fine, but please either bring over here or point to the specific thing which interests you.

I'm through spoon feeding you. All you've done is cause trouble. Everyone's already seen all that old stuff already.

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #98 on: December 05, 2014, 09:25:32 PM »
The "Ultra Magnetic Positioner" needs to be finely guidenced with constant touch control to sustain the Lenz Propelled "Self Acceleration". The "Neutral Zone" is fluid, and acts capriciously. A model airplane RC servo with a longitudinal arm that simply travels in and out could easily attach to the pivot arm of the ultra positioner. This would allow for "Joy Stick" control, and permit the operator to avoid the risk of shock and the safty of the protective plexiglass housing. Eventually perhaps an automatic positioner might be engineered into a final design by the Lockheed Skunk Works or Sandia Labratories, but in the mean time the "Self Acceleration" needs to be piloted!   
 
I don't think  rotor current would cause a fatality. You would need to raise and lower the positioner magnet by hand to succeed at the powerless run up and charging.  The "Ultra Magnetic Positioner's" probably worth the price for purchase. It's a precision instrument. The pivoting magnet looks like it rotates due to attraction with it's mate as it's adjusted. The "Neutral Zone" moves. The operator has to fish for it when acceleration abates.
 
The rotor's blind to the coil's magnet core when the coil and core are positioned in the "Neutral Zone". The coil core needs to stay hidden from the rotor this way to sustain "Self Acceleration". The magnet core still influences the coil. Only the coil field reaches the rotor. Below "Lenz Delay" threshold speed the coil field alone imparts drag. Above the threshold speed RPM the coil field imparts propulsion.

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #99 on: December 05, 2014, 11:13:33 PM »
The "Ultra Magnetic Positionr" already has an AC motor and foot pedal. Thinking through it some more, I bet some plastic tape and a popsicle stick lever glued to a rear magnet would probably work as good or even better.
 
Gluing two backing magnets together and a popsicle stick horizontally would probably give you maximum control and insulate you from electric shock. So the procedure would simply involve pulling the DPDT Relay back in the normally closed position for charging, then levering a few magnets away from the stack to fly the self accelerated rotor in the "Neutral Zone" with the popsicle stick controller. A ceramic paper weight can help trim the stick.

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #100 on: December 05, 2014, 11:34:57 PM »

I'm through spoon feeding you. All you've done is cause trouble. Everyone's already seen all that old stuff already.
LOL, well if you can point to a post that actually had a drawing or picture of the thing that you are asking about then I will happily apologize.  If you can't then you are just being silly.

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #101 on: December 05, 2014, 11:40:59 PM »
MarkE,
 
Just stay off my back and stop causing trouble.

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #102 on: December 06, 2014, 02:51:00 AM »
MarkE,
 
Just stay off my back and stop causing trouble.
I must say that you are acting very strangely.  First you ask for an evaluation of some thing then when I ask you to show the thing you want evaluated you act very upset and put-out.

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #103 on: December 11, 2014, 11:52:54 PM »
I believe this TK circuit may work well as an automatic "Neutral Zone" positioner with a magnet viewer to trigger the optical sensors, coupled with the motorized ultra magnetic positioner pictured above: The "Neutral Zone" is non-magnetic and would reveal itself as a black line through the magnet viewer.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUsA-YuAtBU&list=UUZFlznLV3IyePfbc2TfDetA

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #104 on: December 12, 2014, 02:39:00 AM »
Doug Konzen demonstrates rotor acceleration and decreased input by positioning a shorted magnet backed ferrite core coil in adjacency to a monopole rotor in polarity opposition to the core magnets. This magnet backed coil and monopole rotor polarity configuration is identical to kEhYo's GAP setup. Let's say we wire a blade switch to the output side that shorts the GAP power coil after thr DPDT relay is pulled. Inescapable logic dictates that when the coil's re-positioned as Doug shows, the rotor has to speed up from forces in the shorted coil alone, even though input has been completely curtailed! Think about what I'm saying! Videos can easily be faked. The logic I'm using is irefutable! This test is simple enough for anyone to perform. You have my solemn affidavit that free energy is this simply achieved! The only stipulation is that the rotor be as close to frictionless as physically posible. A VCR bearing with well balanced magnets like Skycollection uses will work fine.


The rotor continues to speed up with zero input and the shorted coil needs to be constantly re-positioned to a new sweet spot. This can get scary and requires a bit of courage. Prepare yourself for "Future Shock". The psychological effects of self acceleration are potentially traumatic!