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Author Topic: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.  (Read 182363 times)

Offline synchro1

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Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« on: June 09, 2013, 05:07:49 PM »
I received a message from Bob Smith, asking if I ever tried a "Mag Amp". I'm opening this new thread so everyone can benefit from  Bob's knowhow.

Here's Igor's bedini-magnacoaster video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzNjAs3-9LA


Reply to your comment on: bedini-magnacoaster:

My question to Igor was; Does the rotor speed increase when you insert the iron magnet into the coil core? His answer:

"yes, it does, a little...
to get to the bottom of it we need to make an inductor from it !
here's the Vorktex secret - by oscillation (it's his "breaker") get a HF HV output; transform it down to HF HA output and than rectify it to the caps bank; and discharge it to batteries to run the inverters to run the oscillator ... looped...
btw, like your antygravity tests...

cheers"


This confirms the rotor acceleration. The question remains, is this "Lenz Delay Effect"? My theory is that the magnet interferes with coil efficiency, inducing the delay! Extending the output coil core length appears to slow the coil's performance down too!


Here's Igor's video on the solid state "magnacoaster effect":


This experiment is basicly the same as the Dragone. Impulse demagnetization is generating OU power.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWhsJWXEER4[/size]


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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2013, 05:34:43 PM »

JLN's 2sgen COP  13.7:

http://jlnlabs.online.fr/2SGen/html/s2genep7en.htm


Here's a link to Nickolay E. Zaev's paper. JLN tested COP of over thirteen:



l = ((Vdem^2)/10000) / ((Vmag^2)/10000) = ((35.2^2)/10000) / ((9.5^2)/10000) = 13.7
It is interesting to notice that N. Zaev has found a l = 16.3 with a Permalloy 81 NM core (look at here[/size]


The 2Sgen is a ferrite toroid core with magnets attached inside a pulse coil, and an output coil. All the same components as Igor's in his "bedini-magnetcoaster" video test! Remember; Igor's trifilar has a power coil, and an output coil just like the 2Sgen! Tickler makes 3!

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2013, 06:02:11 PM »
The combination of the OU demagnetization power from Igor's magnet core along with the rotor acceleration, however slight, proves conclusively that his abundant output is genuinely "Lenzless"! Generating this amount of awesome output power actually reduces the input power to the rotor! I got this setup to run itself and charge it's own source battery with diametric magnet core and a dipole rotor.


Here's one of the serial bifilar output coils and the stack of diametric neos I ran into the core:

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2013, 06:02:11 PM »
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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2013, 08:42:18 PM »
I thought a magamp might be useful for increasing the output of Synchro1's setup.
Useful intro to magamps:
http://teslapress.com/magamp.html
 
Another decent intro:
http://www.sparkbangbuzz.com/mag-amp/mag-amp.htm
 
A basic magamp serving as audio amplifier:
http://sparkbangbuzz.com/mag-audio-amp/mag-audio-amp.htm
 
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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 06:16:32 AM »
@Bob Smith,

                    Thanks very much Bob for your exciting links!

I think this experiment demonstrates more clearly then any how the Magnetic Amplifier works.

"To begin, I would like to first show a simple experiment that demonstrates how saturating a magnetic core can lower inductance and allow more AC current to flow through a lamp.

The lamp glows brighter when the magnets are near the transformer. The magnetic field saturates the core, lowering the inductive reactance in series with the lamp".

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 06:16:32 AM »
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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2013, 07:05:01 AM »
Two powerful magnets, one on each side of a ferrite core coil would allow us to compare diametric polarization output to axial. Imagine a ferrite core, wrapped in it's own coil as a core, or a coil with two smaller coils T'd in from the sides with variable power control like the magnetic amplifier.  


                                    Controlling the core field would act like a tuner!

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2013, 09:27:26 AM »

This latest video by Skycollection previews a Pancake bifilar with a ferrite toroid wrapped in a coil inside the center of the Pancake. Skycollection maintains this coil causes "Lenz Delay". This looks just like the "Magnetic Amplifier" I just invented for the Trifilar solenoid! Jorge measured an overunity COP of +3x with these kinds of coils. A JLN 2Sgen?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMgB7YnvxWM[/size]

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 10:01:46 PM »
Imagine a solenoid ferrite core wrapped in a coil. One end of the core coil connected to the positive of the power source, and the other in series with the inside wire of the solenoid coil wrap. The pulse should generate a magnetic field in the ferrite before the outer coil does. This is how I believe Skycollection's toroid works.


The other alternative would involve placing a bridge of tiny neo disk magnets between the inside edges of Skycollection's ferrite toroid!  


The impulse strength of the serial bifilar coil makes this winding configuration preferable to the single wire for the generation of demagnetization power. The SBC produces a stronger field collapse from the rotor departure, back on it's own remnant core field!


There's a "Magnet Pump" event in the sequence of events starting with the pulse through the rotor magnet decoupling. There's a remnant magnetic field in the ferrite that the outside field collapses on when the rotor departs. That generates the "Demagnetization" output from the ferrite core.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2013, 05:05:19 AM by synchro1 »

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2013, 03:07:18 PM »
Yes you rigth,the demagnetization out put from the ferrite core, produce more output...!

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2013, 03:07:18 PM »
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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2013, 04:43:00 PM »
Yes you rigth,the demagnetization out put from the ferrite core, produce more output...!
this remember me Naudin 2sGen experiments :
http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/indexen.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/html/2sgenrplicen.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/indexen.htm#without

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2013, 04:50:21 PM »
The Honda and Prius hybrid cars have competing systems. The Honda's a consecutive hybrid, the Prius Parallel. 


Skycollection's motor generator was measured by him at 5.7x OU. Wired to a battery, an a.c. motor can be driven through an inverter. The inclusion of an Orbital gear allows the motor generator to assist the electric drive motor. This would work the same as the Prius Parallel This is much different from Thane Hiens's version which employs a direct drive shaft from the primary to the wheel. Thanes design is very primative by comparison. Thane has failed to demonstrate any OU measurements from his Lenz Delay unit either. 


Thane can't touch this kind "Parallel" performance with his outdated design. Coupled with the "Orbital Gear", Skycollection's setup would work much better to power a motorbike or car.

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2013, 11:39:06 PM »
This is my new design of coil, PYRAMID SHAPED CONE, with a lot of practical applications...!

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2013, 08:52:15 PM »

Video of magnet effect on rotor:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN37ruFKrhs
« Last Edit: June 19, 2013, 04:51:28 AM by synchro1 »

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FLAT RODIN COIL & LENZ EFFECT
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2013, 11:17:21 PM »
THIS IS MY NEW EXPERIMENT, I AM USING MY FLAT RODIN COIL, MY MAGNETIC LEVITATION BASE AND MY CIRCUIT CONTROL RF-530.


AS YOU KNOW  I DON´T OSPEAK ENGLISH AND I DON´T SRUDIED ELECTRONICS, IF I POST ERRORS IS FOR THAT REASON...!


SALUDOS
FROM MEXICO


JORGE REBOLLEDO


P. S. IF YOU WANT TO REPLICATE THIS EXPERIMENT, YOU NEED A MAGLEV BASE THAT CAN PRODUCE 10,000 TO 30,000 RPM, YOU CAN NOT REPLICATE WITH CONVENTIONAL PULSE MOTORS TAHT ONLY PRODUCE 7,000 RPM, YOU NEED AT LEAST 10,000 RPM AND MORE....!

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2013, 11:54:06 PM »
Hi Jorge!

Thank you for showing the circuit, that allows a meaningful discussion.

I changed your circuit in a way which would show OU. I do not think it will work. But if your set up produces more energy than you put in, my modifications would allow to run the rotor without the battery.

Start with the battery and when you think that the rotor has reached its top speed, you switch away the battery (the motor then runs from the 47.000 µF capacitor). The rotor will probably slow down over time. If it speeds up, run and hide, your motor will self destruct (but it is very unlikely).

Greetings, Conrad

 

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