Fausto: Here is the 17k run of cell across 100 ohm res.  The other cell just hit 1.206.  Will show new results tomorrow.

ahhh, beauty.


New load she immediately decayed to its new level. I notice the first decay not being exponential like an asymptotic curve. The spikes are extremely constant which is also great. That means she did not break down inside and formed irregular "reactions" to support new higher load. [/size]

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The linear up curve is a great sign of indeed extra power coming from somewhere, but a little bit too early to say that. I expect a "reverberation" of the "shock" like many waves and diminishing as it does with time, almost like a electronic pulse into a LR and slowly it decays as it oscillates.[/size]

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In this case the cell should respond with a much higher "inertia". She will most probably go up and then a long curve down (don't worry yet) and eventually settle at a lower vale of the maximum bump that you will get right at first.[/size]

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If she continues going up after that we need to pay attention to the next 3 days of "shock wave" progress. Sometimes it will break the cell apart and she will simply die really fast, faster than you would imagine and make you go scratching your head (she was going so well, umf, umf   ).


If she passes those 3 days and again stabilize at a linear decay or even a flat line we are about to talk business here. If she starts growing faster even though linearly or even worse, exponentially higher we are in trouble, she is dying. I know, it does not make much sense but it is just like that.


Now, make sure ambient does not affect her too much, so do some bumps in the table with your fist and see if the graph changes abruptly or not at all. Abruptly means the crystal is also not formed yet to its mature age. If it causes a long little wave we are again in great shape (crystal is solidifying).


Some people may be wondering where I get all those "insights", well don't worry, they are only "monkey science".


For now this graph is showing the early signs of a great progress you already accomplish BUT you will need to leave her in this meter for a good MONTH.


Fausto.

The start voltage would have been higher but I took it off the joule thief run and hooked up across 100 ohm load with out letting it settle out  for a while to reach its no load voltage.  Will do a better job.  Next time.  You know how newbies are!

David

I'm a newbie when it comes to chemistry. 

here are the types of coils I am using for the joule thief circuit.  They are line input filter chokes.  I get them out of old tv sets and power supplies.

David

I've done some research on TSP/90.  Red Devil's version isn't pure Sodium Metasilicate.  It is Sodium Metasilicate Pentahydrate.  This is known to prevent corrosion on metal. 

I was able to buy that PURE at ebay once.

your on the right track plengo but freezing is definitely not the way to eliminate possibility of corrosion.corrosion will happen even close to zero kelvin so long as air-moisture and o2 is available.one way to check for zero corrosion is to do the stepdown-spillover test that I did in karpen thread and it must be done rapidly.the other way is to get spontaneous REVERSE-POTENTIALS as I showed in other thread.you are absolute correct,we want the electrochemical voltage potential,not the corrosion.check out what happens in a photoelectrochemical system,you get eg, the iodine redox-system going like this at one electrode I2 + 2e- = 2 I- and reverse at other while light falls on one electrode.so the redox system is just acting like a see-through copper-sheet conductor.

I am posting this link again.  I didn't receive any comments about it.  This is where I got most of my ideas on this latest cell.  I think he has some important ideas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7y8ek9aASQ

David

Fausto:  Here are this mornings results.  The run on the joule thief and on the 100 ohm Load.

David

Excellent. IF the first one is the one with Joule Thief I can see in the end the consequences of it. See the spikes? they are becoming more erratic.


The second graph is awesome. She is running great. Let her run for a month, please and study the results.


Fausto.