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Author Topic: Crystal Cell Research  (Read 155740 times)

Offline plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #345 on: October 15, 2014, 07:56:14 PM »
Indeed my latest cells do like cold. They increase power with cold and lower power with heat. Which is the OPPOSITE of my older cells. Specially the ones open to air. So moisture is not the reason.


Another thing is that I tested 2 cells to extreme heat and cold and they simply do not like heat for too long and after heat up they don't like cold either. SO I literally cooked then too much and melted the crystal structure which even with more water (moister from condensing from the freezer) does not help.


One of my cells fell on the ground and show "dust" around the surface which i notice to be a bad sign (broke the crystals) and indeed this cell performs less better than her sister.


Those cells are behaving in a way that none of my other cells did. I would think the word "endothermic" ?


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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #345 on: October 15, 2014, 07:56:14 PM »

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #346 on: October 15, 2014, 10:35:09 PM »
Exellent plengo.that is THE way to eliminate all remaining doubts about corrosion.if you use the textbooks method of faraday's equivalency law and your result overrides it,by far,then you can safely rule out corrosion with no remaining doubts.the best way to do this is using milligram quantities of foils anodes at current draw of around 50-100 micro-ampere.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #347 on: October 16, 2014, 02:38:37 AM »
Exellent plengo.that is THE way to eliminate all remaining doubts about corrosion.if you use the textbooks method of faraday's equivalency law and your result overrides it,by far,then you can safely rule out corrosion with no remaining doubts.the best way to do this is using milligram quantities of foils anodes at current draw of around 50-100 micro-ampere.


thanks for seeing what I see too about empirical data. I agree milligram would be wonderful. I don't have a milligram balance so for now I will have to use the foils and a rough estimate of, let's say, 30% precision. So anything should run longer by at least 50% of what calculated would be and still be pretty safe in data wise if that is accomplished.


I would say this is a fair measurement for anyone. Agree anyone?


So what would be next? I would propose to those that are willing to do this very simple experiment just get the copper which is the most difficult one but can be purchased here (http://basiccopper.com/1milcopperfoil.html) and cheap aluminum foil at the local super market. The electrolyte could be paper with vinegar or acid or anything you can imagine and use a 100 ohm resistor cross the terminals of the battery.


Measure the voltage across the resistor every so often and plot a graph by hand. The fluctuation of the graph and a 2 to 4 weeks measurement should tells us the story. Different electrolytes same process. Post the results, please.


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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #347 on: October 16, 2014, 02:38:37 AM »
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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #348 on: October 16, 2014, 03:09:41 AM »
It will take exactly the atomic weight of aluminum divide by 3 in grams for 96500colombo to dissolve. Al > Al3+ ion. accurate jewellery digiscale is fine.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #349 on: October 16, 2014, 04:39:05 AM »
  Plengo:
  If you don't want to show what you've got, but want us to chart dissolving cells, as a base line to compare to what you haven't shown yet, well, I don't share your mode of operation. 
  I recommend that you just make a video of your cells, like you've done before, and let us decide if what you have made now is of interest, or not. Some guys may take you up on your "base line" tests. But, I have other things on my plate.
  I trust and believe in what you've shown us previously, and don't need to chart decaying cells to prove the point.
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Re: Crystal Cell Research
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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #350 on: October 16, 2014, 05:11:45 PM »
  Plengo:
  If you don't want to show what you've got, but want us to chart dissolving cells, as a base line to compare to what you haven't shown yet, well, I don't share your mode of operation. 
  I recommend that you just make a video of your cells, like you've done before, and let us decide if what you have made now is of interest, or not. Some guys may take you up on your "base line" tests. But, I have other things on my plate.
  I trust and believe in what you've shown us previously, and don't need to chart decaying cells to prove the point.
                                                              NickZ


Ok Nick here it goes:


get the following items mix them , grid them and let them dry to almost zero humitidy:
- sand
- epson salts
- rochelle salts
- activated carbon
- sodium meta silica pentahydrate
- alum


Figure whatever proportion you want for the needs that you want, very easy, just play with it until you get what you think is working the most.


Make the plates sizes, put the mix with water in between the plates and run it.


Very simple, no need for a video.


Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #351 on: November 02, 2014, 03:03:00 AM »
Question to ALL:

Is it possible to have a battery with BOTH ELECTRODE METALS being the SAME METAL and produce constant output power?

For example positive is Aluminium and negative being Aluminium.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #351 on: November 02, 2014, 03:03:00 AM »
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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #352 on: November 02, 2014, 04:17:52 AM »
IbPointless did some experiments on that very subject. In the very earlie days at the energeticfourm. I believe if you check his YouTube he still has the vids on his channel. Nothing outstanding but he has a few vids and some posts about it on the bedini crystal battery thread. It would probably take a while to find those posts though.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #353 on: November 02, 2014, 09:19:41 AM »
Yes its very possible to use two same electrodes in both a galvanic setup and also catalytic spillover setup.in the galvanic setup one aluminum piece is less exposed to oxidizer(air) than the other aluminum piece.in another situation one aluminum piece is attacked more quicker than the other due to porosity and surface area leading to massive eddy current hysterisis giving a galvanic potential.with nonreactive electrodes (eg.platinum) you can get spillover effect from different exposure to air or h2.spillover effect does not consume inert catalyst electrode material

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #354 on: November 02, 2014, 10:20:24 AM »
Aluminum-aluminum in hcl.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #355 on: November 02, 2014, 04:17:01 PM »
Yes its very possible to use two same electrodes in both a galvanic setup and also catalytic spillover setup.in the galvanic setup one aluminum piece is less exposed to oxidizer(air) than the other aluminum piece.in another situation one aluminum piece is attacked more quicker than the other due to porosity and surface area leading to massive eddy current hysterisis giving a galvanic potential.with nonreactive electrodes (eg.platinum) you can get spillover effect from different exposure to air or h2.spillover effect does not consume inert catalyst electrode material


Thanks for the helpful answer.


So and either case explained above I SHOULD expect either REDOX or GALVANIC result?


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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #356 on: November 02, 2014, 08:36:42 PM »
Correct yes.either spillover current or corrosion current

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #357 on: January 19, 2015, 08:09:12 AM »
Plengo this is BackRoom Labs from YouTube. I have posted here before. In about three weeks I'll be back into this scene. I plan on experimenting with sliver nitrate for the redox effect. I'm sure you have seen John Bedinis 1 amp flooded cell. At first I thought the blue was from copper sulfate after much research I found it has almost no effect. But the only other thing that would turn blue in contact with copper is silver nitrate.  Although silver nitrate in contact with magnesium and small amounts of water is extremely exothermic. But when in a lot of water it seems to be ok hench JB's flooded cell. Have you given this any thought? But that's where I'm heading.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #358 on: January 19, 2015, 04:55:16 PM »
Plengo this is BackRoom Labs from YouTube. I have posted here before. In about three weeks I'll be back into this scene. I plan on experimenting with sliver nitrate for the redox effect. I'm sure you have seen John Bedinis 1 amp flooded cell. At first I thought the blue was from copper sulfate after much research I found it has almost no effect. But the only other thing that would turn blue in contact with copper is silver nitrate.  Although silver nitrate in contact with magnesium and small amounts of water is extremely exothermic. But when in a lot of water it seems to be ok hench JB's flooded cell. Have you given this any thought? But that's where I'm heading.


Bily,


 I was thinking about this "blue" thing LAST NIGHT. My cells that are working extremely well (one example is the series of graphs I presented earlier) has this "blue" color and it is NOT copper sulfate or derivatives. I know because the color is not the same, at least in my "monkey" ways.


I have been quiet for a few weeks now because I want to make sure my next data set is indeed worthy to show and validate my thoughts.


One think that I am becoming very convinced is that the cell indeed NEEDS to dry up and form a very hard rock like structure and only then it will use water as a fuel. I am getting really close to replicate it. Unfortunately it took 3 months to get this cell ready, bummer.


Please, try with your idea and share it. I think you are onto something.


Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #359 on: March 24, 2016, 08:31:48 AM »
ultra-battery-one    kilogram  weight-decades  of  driving-without  charging Weight  reduction-  no  engine,  gearbox,  no  fuel,  oil,  just  car  body  and  el.  motors  .Did  you  know  that scientist  made  battery  (picture  in  middle)  from  uranium?  And  did  you  know  that  7g  of  uranium  is powering  3  millions  of  houses  a  day?And  did  you  know  that  scientist  made  most  powerful  non  nuclear energy  material  by  pressing  XeF2  by  100000  atmospheres,  which  is  near  of  uranium  on  power  basis?  My idea  is  to  replace  XeF2  instead  of  uranium,  and  keep  the  princip  how  the  energy  is  converting  to electricity  flow.  Imagine  one  kilo  of  this  battery  and  car  is  running  for  decades,  also  could  be  used  in homes  energy  supply  etc.  Is  the  most  powerful  portable  non-nuclear  energy  storage  ever,  The  battery  is made  of  Xenon  difluoride  (XeF2),  a  white  crystal  that’s  been  placed  in  a  diamond  anvil  cell.  Pressure  is able  to  reach  a  million  atmospheres  and  when  this  happens,  3D  metallic  networks  structures  are  formed. The  formation  causes  compression  and  stores  its  power  as  chemical  energy,  generating  a  huge  amount  of it.  Is  the  most  condensed  form  of  energy  storage  outside  of  nuclear  energy  .We’ll  see  this  technology  used in  super-oxidizing  materials  that  can  destroy  chemical  and  biological  agents,  not  to  mention  new  fuels and,  most  obviously,  an  energy  storage  device,superconductors.I  personally  giving  to  this  battery promised  future  or  the  idea  which  will  press  materials  and  use  their  energy  from  their  deformed  structures ,like  personal  electricity  plant,its  possible  to  regulate  battery  power  as  newly  created  nuclear  battery  in picture  below,which  works.Nuclear  battery  works  like  this:when  high-energy  beta  radiation  passes through  the  platinum  and  the  nanoporous  titanium  dioxide,  electron-hole  pairs  are  produced  within  the titanium  dioxide,  creating  an  electron  flow  and  a  resultant  electric  current.The  ionic  solution  is  not  easily frozen  at  very  low  temperatures  and  could  work  in  a  wide  variety  of  applications  including  car  batteries and,  if  packaged  properly,  perhaps  spacecraft."radiation  can  be  converted  into  electricity.So  much  so,  that the  water-based  nuclear  battery  may  well  offer  a  viable  alternative  to  the  solar  cell  as  a  sustainable,  lowpollution  energy  source.This  principe  could  by  transformed  also  for  XeF2  and  we  can  regulate  that power.Comparing  to  uranium-Before  being  used  to  produce  electricity,  Uranium  is  extracted  and  then transformed  into  cylindrical  7g  blocks,  which  will  then  be  grouped  together  into  tubes  that  will  in  turn  be assembled  into  clusters  and  then  installed  in  nuclear  reactors.  Uranium  is  the  most  energetic  material known  on  earth:  a  7g  block  of  enriched  uranium  provides  as  much  energy  as  1  tonne  of  petrol  or  1.5 tonnes  of  coal.  A  power  station  supplying  a  city  of  3  million  inhabitants  only  uses  3  kilos  of  Uranium  a day.So  one  small  battery  with  7grams  of  XeF2  calculating  with  almost  or  i    the  same  specification  as uranium  will  replace  one  ton  of  petrol?50  kilos  of  petrol  each  fueling  ,so  it  is  one  ton  1000/50=20  fueling times  of  car(around  700km  per  fuel  tank  x20  =14  000  km  per  one  small  battery(I  do  14  000  km  per  year and  I  spent  for  fuel  1200  euro  minimum  a  year)  so  if  one  kilo  battery  (1000gram  /7  g=  142  years  of driving)if  even  half  energy  of  uranium,we  can  still  drive  71  years,I  couldnt  find    information  how  much power  is  truly  from  pressed  FeX2  if  is  comparable  to  nuclear  energy  as  scientist  says  than  we  can  have product  like  battery  as  we  now    today  almost  everlasting  for  everyone.  Safety-must  be  made  lots  of  car crashes  scenarios  to  keep  passengers  protected(car  falling  to  water,  burning  contacts,  possible  battery damage  etc)and  how  to  switch  battery  off  safely  and  quickly.  If  regulated  and  covered  properly,  safety will exceed current safety standards.

 

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