Hello Bill.  No question there's no easy answers here.  And I actually think that this little coil has not had the attention it deserves.  To me it is entirely FASCINATING.  Thanks to Wilby for bringing it to my attention at all. 

We need to explain the accelerated rusting process to be entirely shot of 'galvanic' interactions.  But the fact is that the 'rusting' reduces the effect - certainly in the early stages.  It seems to need to 'finish' this process before it can be start pumping out a usable potential difference.  And the fact that dry conditions improve the effect on those buried numbers - that speaks volumes.  But for some reason moisture seems to improve the effect 'above ground'.  But nor does anyone claim that the coils get immediately drier - which would be proof of an electrolytic type reaction.  So.  That water may just be a preferred element for the path of the flux.  That's how I see it anyway.  And in any event - this is something that can be quickly proved. 

Truth is that this has not garnered the kind of attention it deserves.  I'm guiltier than most as I've been on these forums for over a year.  But it was the motor turning that grabbed my attention.  And I entirely agree with you.  There's a HUGE source of potential energy in our earth.  I think the work that you guys have done here is GOLD.  If we can somehow unravel the cause - then I think we should be able to scale this up to more usable levels.  And I'm entirely certain it's doable.  Definitely I'm up for it if it simply requires a lot of work.  But I also think we need to get to those answers.  These forums are fraught with trial and error type tests.  It's haphazard.   Required - but maybe these small effects you're showing us here - just maybe we can find some applicable 'rules' to guide us better. 

I'm absolutely immeasurably grateful for all this work you guys have done.  It's simply proof of how absolutely REQUIRED are these forums and all you contributors who are open minded enough to explore.  Just so NICE. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

If you look at how Laser has wired his coil, you'll notice that the outside copper is connected to the inside steel. This is so that when they are shorted, current in both wires flows in the same direction around the core. If the current flows in opposite directions the induced fields cancels each other out. Wired the way he has it, the currents compliment each other and create the same polarity field in the core.
This is how it's able to operate as a motor coil.
I still think it's a battery in the shape of a coil, but there very well may be other things going on there that I'm unaware of.

Cheers,

Ted

Of course.  Your absolutely right.  Then they 'share' the flux paths.  But why then is it more effective using a combination?  I suppose that goes to the heart of all our questions here.  Definitely two metals are more effective than one.  I've got a day free as they're doing an audit on campus.  And I'm going to see if I can get some definitive answers.  LOL.  I can but try.

Regards,
Rosemary

I made up a quick drawing of the 3 simplest ways to hook this coil up which does not include a secondary. You must have a closed loop in order for current to flow. Feel free to clean this up or annotate it more.
http://zolfco.webhostingwholesale.com/images/nsco1.bmp

Bill ...are you saying that you take your measurments between the core and the leads of either copper or steel.....my 3rd build is holding at.5v ....2 days of drying out ....my 4th build is holding at .3v..1day of drying out.....I noticed you can hook them in series ....they add.....3rd and 4th were built differently.........3rd is a better build.....also you can hook them in series with the two rods driven in the ground............they add..........put a smaller dia.galv spike inside the galv waterline(-) ..it jumps the voltage by ^ 100mv...........but it has to be centered...my ground was real wet .....will try it in the sand hill next weekend....coil preformed better out of the ground ......than in it............shylo

Shylow:

Yes, that is correct.  And Stubblefield used to put these in series and parallel to get whatever volts or power he needed for his device loads.  I can't do that with my electrodes, it does not work for me at all.  Electricme, on the EB topic, isolated his electrodes with plastic and got over 60 volts from a bunch of electrodes in series.

Iota:

But, if it was purely galvanic then why were my numbers always higher when in the ground?  Also, as I have mentioned before, the dryer the ground the better the numbers.  I am still puzzeled by a lot of things with these coils.

Bill

Iota.  Here's the thing.  Buried - the coil works better dry.  Above ground the coil works better wet.  Rusted and it appears to work - forever?  We're yet to find out.  Basically because we can't yet argue whether it's entirely dry. 

But wet or dry - a 'battery' would require an electrolytic interaction that varies the molecular state of atoms in that cell.  Traditionally this is seen to degrade the continued efficiency of the cell - as it occurs at a quantifiable value - relates to the mass of the elements in that battery - and that 'uses up' or changes that atomic/molecular material of the battery itself.  If the cotton somehow enables the transfer of charge without actually disintergrating then it's simply another 'element' in that cell.  It is not interacting as one understands a typical electrolyte would interact.  And the same with water. 

To argue a battery you would require the disintegration of that battery to account for all the energy delivered by that battery.  Bob has already advised us that there is NO material degradation or alteration of these Earth Batteries - even after two years.  In my humble opinion - it is more of a conduit for electromagnetic forces that are inducing current flow.  And whether this is argued as telleric currents or to an overriding interaction of the coil with our earth's magnetic fields - or wether it is simply interacting with the metals in the coil itself - the fact is that it is NOT degrading.  Any more than any coil degrades.  I cannot - for the life of me - therefore see this as a battery. 

Regards,
Rosemary

Rose:

I am familiar with that response from "the learned".

Look at it this way, I have delt with more than a few hecklers on my youtube videos, and I tell them all the same thing.  If I can light 400 leds for free, or do any of the other things I have been able to do, if the NS coil ONLY lasts 20 years in the ground...who cares?

I mean, look at Laser's topic here....3 months and counting right?  "Oh that is just a galvanic reaction and it will eat up the materials in a few days."  Well, we now know that is not correct.  What if his device runs a year?  2 years?  At what point will folks say....wow, I guess that really is something?

With my engineering background I am a results oriented kind of guy.  I don't care much what something was designed to do, or it is supposed to do, I want to know what it can do.

I like how these "smart" academics always come up with something like...."Well there is salt in the earth and that explains it."  Really?  Not to me is doesn't.   Does he have a power system that will do this for this long?  If not, why not?

Anyway, thanks for trying Rose.  Just remember, we can enjoy what these devices can do and we can most likely improve upon that with some experimentation and research.  That is more than enough for me.

Bill