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Author Topic: A Morality Issue Poll  (Read 29935 times)

Nihilanth

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2010, 08:06:24 AM »
Try reading our(or just my) posts first before you start typing.

This topic is about morality & our choices if we did invent free energy & why. This yutz is helping me decide if I'd keep it to myself, or share it with the world. Personally, I'd rather not share it with sheeple like him, but if sharing overunity with the world would help people experience more Independence, freedom & luxury at the hands of man-made technology, than maybe religion will meet it's obsolescence that much faster. But I'm still fairly torn.

masster

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2010, 04:38:10 PM »
please ignore TechStaf.
he (it?) is just a bot (literally or metaphorically) using a script to scramble nonsense fanatic propaganda phrases with sole purpose of disrupting the exchange of ideas.

its comments have the same length, the same format, the same words and the same nonsense message.

from time to time the (sick) person behind this bot is intervening just to stir the s**t a little more.
it is only a virus. treat it accordingly and please focus on topic. your comments will help understanding the true human nature of inventors.

and don't forget mentioning to what category past known "free energy" inventors belong.

WilbyInebriated

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2010, 10:34:48 PM »
If it's one thing that all the antiChrists have in common, it's that you love sophomoric attacks on the beliefs of those who believe in The Higher power, while ignoring the Mountain of Evidence that supports the accuracy of God's Word.  Of course, most children today are exposed to various pernicious indoctrinations which, sadly, pass for education....and this progresses right on through the college level.
sophomoric? what is sophomoric or pretentious is your use of the phrase 'evidence that supports the accuracy of god's word'. you have yet to present any evidence of the 'accuracy of god's word'... even worse, in attempting to do that, you place the cart squarely in front of the horse. there is no point to vet the 'word' of god WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO VET YOUR IMAGINARY DEITY!

Notice readers, that they Never discuss the True Evidence presented.  This is a tactic they always employ.  They do this because such discussion only sheds more light on who is really who and Why it matters!   They prefer instead to attempt to shift focus away from themselves and their associates whenever and however they can.
you have yet to present any 'true' evidence... words from a book that is allegedly 'divinely inspired' mean absolutely nothing when you refuse to vet the divinity allegedly responsible for said inspiration.

And the sad fact of the matter is that the ONLY way TPTB will allow truly Free Energy to propagate, is if it is ushered in as part of some diabolical attempt to appear as if the 'good guys' have won.

Finally achieving their objective, if but for an hour, of employing Hegelian Dialectics in order to achieve their desired "synthesis".
assumes facts not in evidence. 

techstuf, i have taken the liberty of creating a thread just for you (since you can't seem to figure out how to create one on your own) where you can vet your deity and proselytize to your heart's content. http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9468
please use it and quit polluting other threads with your stories of your imaginary friends.


to the topic, i would keep it. this apathetic modern society can keep what it has, it richly deserves it...

WilbyInebriated

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2010, 01:59:32 AM »
Could've fooled me

that's obviously quite easy to do. you willingly believe in imaginary friends because some old book written by ignorant men long ago told you to...

sm0ky2

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2010, 07:08:57 AM »
... Afterall, just like Religion, there are many gathered here that are True Believers in 'free energy'.

... and belief in 'free' energy require F-A-I-T-H.

while i may have to agree with you, that some people "believe" in 'free energy' much like the belief in an invisible, magical god-creature capable of 'poofing' humans and earths into existence...

The main difference here is, that 'free energy'  is a known fact to some people, who can prove that it exists through experimentation.

i myself spent nearly two decades studying the religions of mankind in search of definitive proof of a mythological god-creature(s), and to this day have not discovered any way to interact with it/them on a physical level. It is my experienced conclusion that god(s) only exist in the minds of the believers, and that they do not manifest themselves anywhere in the physical world outside of the imagination.

If you have definitive proof of your god-fairy, please feel free to share it. i think someone even gave you your own thread to do so...


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Nihilanth

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2010, 01:52:29 PM »
Masster, WilbyInebriated & Sm0ky2 you all act like perfectly reasonable & intelligent people, would you mind sharing what & why you chose your answers? Keeping in mind that if this information were publicized, than nutjobs like TechStuf all over the world would benefit from it too.

mangyhyena

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2010, 04:38:50 AM »
I would freely share the invention with the world, free of charge.  Preferably, no one would ever know I was the one who initially invented it.  So, free of glory or fame as well.

Those who suppress free energy are greedy, prideful, arrogant, and extremely, extremely powerful.

Anyone who would attempt a David-and-Goliath to take these elites down for the count needs to be sure NOT to fight them on THEIR playing field.  He, or she, needs to release the information for replication of the free energy device without lusting for power, money, or fame.  Do that and you're not playing on their turf.

If you attempt to make tons of money off your invention, corner the market on energy and make everyone on earth dependent on you for their energy needs, or seek fame and glory from the world for inventing it, you are playing on their field, their turf, and they're better at being greedy, prideful, envious, and arrogant than you are.  They will crush you if you show up on their home field to fight.

The Plan:  Build a device that uses a free, reliable, renewable source of energy that is not limited to daytime operation only (solar) or windy conditions (windmill) or moving water remaining unfrozen (hydro) to produce enough energy for the average home user.  The device needs to be built from off-the-shelf parts and must not be too complicated for DIY assembly.  A parts list, blueprints, and assembly instructions would be freely given in hard copy and posted to the net.  The average Joe or Jane holding these documents would ideally be able to purchase the parts from the parts list, take the parts and blueprints and assembly instructions to a local craftsman and pay that person to build the device.  An electrician would then be called in to wire the replicated device to the fuse box and the home would immediately be off the grid.  People would be encouraged to photocopy the documents and pass them along to friends and family.

There, that's how you beat suppression.  Do that and you never walk on the elite's playing field to do battle and you don't get crushed.  The power providers would die a slow death within fifty years.

Sadly, there are not very many people who can invent a free energy device to begin with.  Out of those few, there are fewer still who would be willing to put time and energy and resources into building a working device just because it's the right thing to do.  My biggest problem by far is finding one person with the mechanical skills to fabricate a device who is not driven by greed, pride, or glory.  I've found people with the mechanical skills I need to accomplish a device for home energy production, but not one of them was willing to do it just because it's the right thing to do.  Every one of them wanted to control the people with it, or become fabulously wealthy and powerful.  WTH, since when does having mechanical skills or figuring out how to build a free energy machine qualify one to rule the world?


Now, what would an affordable home unit that produces enough free energy to run the average home mean to the world?
Well, the unit could run an atmospheric condenser, which would make enough drinkable water for the family from the moisture in the air---no more drought!  The water could also be used to water crops without the need for irrigation.
The unit could provide heat or air conditioning free of charge, for those who live in extreme climates.
The unit could run lights for indoor crops.  No more food shortages anywhere in the world.
The unit could recharge electric vehicles, produce hydrogen for vehicles to run on, or provide heat for distillation of fuel alcohol to run vehicles.
An up-scaled unit could desalinize ocean water to provide fresh drinking water.  The units could also be used to pump that water inland via pipelines.
I'm positive other uses I haven't even thought of would come up if we-the-people were free to use it in whatever way we choose.

When I look at the opportunity to take out the elites (Battle of a lifetime!!!!!!!) and give we-the-people a fighting chance to change OUR world for the better, I can't imagine why anyone would let greed, envy, arrogance, pride, and a lust for power get in the way of that.  It literally leaves me shaking my head in confusion when I see would-be inventors trying to figure out how to become rich and famous from their invention despite the suppression imposed by the elites.  So far, the inventors have lost every single time.  Those who can not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, fellow inventors.  The definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing again and again and expecting a different result each time.  Don't go the way of Stan Meyer; try a different way if you don't want to wind up like him.

So, there's my case for releasing the device to the world.

PS, if anyone has any ideas about how to find a good person, as defined above, with the mechanical skills to assist an inventor in bringing an invention from theory to reality, please PM me.  ;D 

Nihilanth

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2010, 05:37:08 AM »
You sure said a lot of what, but not a lot of why. Once you've obtained free energy, why should you have to share it? Especially if you know that you'll be sharing it with a bunch of idiotic ingrates.

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2010, 07:45:03 AM »
You sure said a lot of what, but not a lot of why. Once you've obtained free energy, why should you have to share it? Especially if you know that you'll be sharing it with a bunch of idiotic ingrates.


a bunch of idiotic ingrates is sharing todays a lot inventions and so, if they share one more ?

fritznien

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2010, 06:57:31 PM »
You sure said a lot of what, but not a lot of why. Once you've obtained free energy, why should you have to share it? Especially if you know that you'll be sharing it with a bunch of idiotic ingrates.
your going to build one for yourself of course. then what about mom? she gets one right?
then your brother and your sisters idiot husband and so on til the whole world has one anyway.
don't forget mother nature is a blabbermouth and will tell anyone that asks the right question.
or in other words if you can do it what makes you think others can not?
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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2010, 06:58:46 PM »

a bunch of idiotic ingrates is sharing todays a lot inventions and so, if they share one more ?

Yes but that means taking risks.
Why do so?

Name one good reason?

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2010, 10:45:49 PM »
the risk could be if only small group or one country have powerful invention.
if this invention have everybody - the risk = 0

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2010, 02:05:02 AM »
    Say ufo technology is real and has been real for thousands of years.  These beings cohabitate the Earth amongst other planets and routinely come herer for water or to eat or generally promote their civilization.   Now why in the world would they allow the smart monkeys who like killing each other because they get adrenaline rushes from such activity have free energy technology.  In fact the animals already have it and the first thing they do is turn it into weapons for mass destruction of other tribes of smart monkeys.  What is their alternative but to disarm the chimps so they dont annihalate each other and scoop up any technology that would be dangerous in the hands of what they perceive as children.  Would you allow your 5 year old to run around with handgrenades and use them to throw at the dog.  The advent of neuclear power is a profound advancement in technological terms of a civilization.   Will we survive it.  Should we survive it.  Will we become an exploitive species that moves from planet to planet disrupting life there.  Will we have a global flag and global star fleets that bring home captives from other planets and enslave them doing our mundane chores while we go around on personal pursuits to satisfy our every whim.  Will we respect life.  By all past indiciations we will not and therefore we will be dealt with like the children we are. 

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2010, 03:34:35 AM »
I removed some religious posts over here,
cause it was offtopic and had some affiliate links in it,
which is against the TOS.

Please stay ontopic.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.