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Please fill in this questionnaire and while selecting your answer think about your favorite legendary free energy inventor and/or scientist and ask yourself in which category he belongs. Maybe we will learn something from this poll and figure out why are we still NOT using "free energy"...
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Come on people!
I think it's a good poll and i like to see some results :)
Please vote.
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Thank you for your support.
One of the reasons I made this poll is that it would be interesting to see what is the moral fabric of our inventors to be.
But on the other hand, I would like to know your opinion about these other related issues:
- why not even one inventor from the past didn't share his FE device full plans with humankind ?
- why not even one alive inventor isn't willing to share it either ?
Because we are talking about an invention that would change our lives for ever and hopefully for the good...
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it probably just comes down to greed in the end, seems like $$$$ wins.
for eg there is a new thread in here about a mag wheel and this guy is asking the viewers to help him and tell him why it wont work and show him how it might, and in all his drawings he has plastered a BIG FAT copy write, and this is an open forum ?
... well F*** him.
peace.
ps i have not voted yet, but i would think id plaster a working something all over the net just to f*** off the TBTB and let every one finally be free of the bullshit, its that simple for me.
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I know exactly how you feel.
But let's not waste our energy on a single anonymous guy.
Let's ask ourselves about past legends: and I will start with Nikola Tesla.
Without minimizing his merits on several fields of electromagnetism, I will always ask myself why he didn't make public his blueprints for a practical FE device. If all those stories about that magic box with rods and lamps are true, where is the patent ? Where are those who witnessed his demonstration and carefully examined his device ? And let me assure you that I would like to be all true, but when no information was left as legacy to humankind, I personally have to see his moral fitting in 2 or 3 sections of my poll...
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If you start with Tesla you are already much too late.
It goes way, way back further.
There are even reports about egypt gas discharge tubes!!!
Carved into the walls.
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But on the other hand, I would like to know your opinion about these other related issues:
- why not even one inventor from the past didn't share his FE device full plans with humankind ?
- why not even one alive inventor isn't willing to share it either ?
You ask the questions in a wrong way, because it's not about sharing only.
* There are inventions which are too dangerous for daily purpose e.g. let's imagine the Schauberger Repulsine or Mazenauer Rotor works as being written in the old articles and which will accelerate on their own (and therefore deliver free energy) if they reach 20.000+ rpm. Now, how do you want to put such a thing into a car? Can someone take responsibility for the amount of danger such a device causes? No. Both were hard to control and completely ripped apart back then. Not to talk about the noise it produced...
* People and infrastructure need energy out of the box. They need to cook, work on computers, store food, surgical robots, hospitals, industrial machinery, vehices all these things need reliable electricity. What many people don't realize is, that a huge amount of inventions (from my investigation) does not meet these requirements.
* Some inventions seem to provide more energy (e.g. Joulethief based circuits), however break in as soon as a motor is attached. Now what can you do with it but power some LEDs? Nothing. You cannot even use a power drill or a toymotor with it. Therefore insufficient.
* I have high respect for Tesla but I think there is another reason besides greed back then, why his energy transmitter has not been asserted. Did you ever have problems with Wireless LAN, receiving radio stations etc. during rain and thunderstorms or because too many people accessed the source? Now that is the reason why you can't put on a power transmitter and say: "everyone gets electricity via air"
It's all about reliability, daily use, energy on demand.
Aside from many fraud-inventions there are only a few exceptions which are in my opinion: Tesla cold electricity, Edwin Gray, Baumanns Thestatika - All of them would have needed the internet...
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http://www.rense.com/general62/list.htm
http://sbeckow.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/what-happens-to-free-energy-inventors-they-get-killed/
And just a few days ago....
http://changingpower.net/articles/plane-crash-kills-team-who-embraced-game-changing-motor/
Personally, I've received attempts on my life ranging from the ludicrous to the exotic since before I even started sharing free energy ideas... even back when I operated a small corporation, Ballisticorp, which sold CO2 powered dart and arrow launchers to the hunting public. Since the early days when I first began sharing free energy ideas, the threats have continued, on up through the present day. These demons are putting to death the children of God, with many thinking they are doing Him a favor. They love to hit you at your weak spots. They've threatened even my kids. Just a few weeks ago, one of my daughters was accosted at a mall and sexually assaulted by one of their many 'disposable' minions who just got out of jail. Last week, my disadvantaged sister was at a local pub, drinking with strangers who kept buying her drinks....My mother found her 46yr old first born daughter, dead on her apartment floor the next day. About a year ago, some of these minions attempted to abduct my brother, pulling up to his place of work in a van (in a rural community) right after he closed his shop. As they jumped out, he jumped back into the shop, locking the door, and called the local police, who verified that the van was reported by others.
I could go on...(and on) but my point is this, it is certainly NOT technology that will free the remnant among mankind that stubbornly remain the children of God. ALL was foretold long ago.
Many have heard the "David and Goliath" story from ages past, though many doubt the veracity of the account. Certainly it's a romantic notion to picture a modern day "david" standing against the great hydra headed beast, and in his sling, a free energy device of somekind....but who are we kidding?
The "goliath" of our day, already has "free energy" (and commensurate weapons) which it has stolen from well meaning and gifted researchers going back for many years now. And hey, personally, I'd love to go to bat for you guys and square off with these bastards with my trusty sling (lol):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCi06GGYEok
But I know for sure and for certain that He Who is soon in coming, will serve up Justice in a way we cannot fathom, much less fully appreciate. I also am fully aware of the fact that I'd not have made it nearly this long without the Hand of God over me and my family.
I know it.
they know it.
And now, some of you know it as well.
Don't wait for our atmosphere to be 'peeled back like a scroll' upon arrival of Christ Yeshua in the heavens, with His Angelic army, to cry out His Name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQh1cjZLmUo
Blessings in Christ Yeshua!
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If you have real usable invention (considering the daily requirements I've mentioned!) - but hesitate to spread it freely, it's your own fault. People should have learned from events (e.g. killings) in the past to behave in a way that will not face these consequences. And the only way to do this, is to spread the invention faster than the information who has spread it, is public. And this is possible easily. You can even make a vacation in another country, take your docs on an USB stick with you and then post it from there at a random internet café. If nowadays an invention does not reach public its because either its too complicated, too dangerous, not efficient overall, or out of ignorance and greed.
Who wants to threaten you, if the whole world has all your docs? The so-called "bad guys" could kill 1 single person (if they can find out who sent the file on the first place), but the effort of any killing would be pointless if the whole world already had these docs. And if you spred your full docs on multiple forums, newsgroups and whatever the internet has to offer, nobody could stop this breakthrough. So please spare me the stories that this is not possible and everything is suppressed.
I agree that it was much easier to suppress dozens of years ago, because there was no online platform which supported audio/video/docs etc... but nowadays? Utter nonsense.
Edit: you know, if people claim they have this super invention, profile themselves on how great they are, most likely also identifying themselves by name and place of living - and then suddenly wonder some "strange people" visit them - I must really wonder how ignorant these people are. I mean they could have counted 1+1 (regarding suppression history) that this way of promotion will not turn out happily.
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So please spare me the stories that this is not possible and everything is suppressed.
Quite right. Especially the last part. Not everything IS suppressed. I for one, am quite certain that successful free energy ideas have been shared. Of course, TPTB have now amassed so much power that they are often content to wait until an individual or group actually tries to do anything with such ideas, before dropping the boot heel.
Many fail to realize that our world is so far upside down, (sideways at least) that many have learned to absolutely revel in it that way. And any attempt to right it literally means W-A-R. And on every front that matters.
Nothing less than that will affect lasting meaningful change, regardless of idealogy. No, the totem of 'free energy', if it were to be allowed to proliferate, would at this late date only come as a hollow savior to emptied souls.
I say, simply, that since we are so close to the end of the age of mankind, as revealed by what was written so long ago which perfectly matches to the situation at hand....
To let each of us place our Faith in whom it may best be found, and may the True Savior and His Army win.
At the present rate of degradation and corruption, We'll know soon enough, though too late for many.
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
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@Techstuf
please, let's keep comments to the topic: morality in sharing a revolutionary invention.
your comments are useful till you get to the point where you involve a religious rhetoric propaganda which is just trolling this topic.
so again, solve your family issues, clear your mind, and then we are waiting your more-to-the-topic opinions.
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Leave it to a noob with a user name like "masster" to overestimate himself on the topic. Spoken like a true creative. ::)
Little does he know that ALL is religion. A man "believes" a thing is not so right up until it is, and vice versa. ALL is belief, and it is the strength and accuracy of beliefs that helps determine our reality. One man's savior is another's devil incarnate....such is the social morass of this late hour.
Oh, and last time I checked, "morality" (yes, even the transient kind so in vogue today) covers a great swath of ideologies and belief systems.
Sounds like you've been reading too much of Pike's "morals and dogma", there 'masster'.
And speaking of revolutionary inventions....
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html
http://www.henrymakow.com/obama_a_president_for_freemaso.html
http://www.hornes.org/theologia/mark-horne/what-is-the-worth-of-666-talents-of-gold
To speak of the morality of sharing free energy while refusing to consider the truth regarding what the independent inventor is truly up against is lamentably naive...or worse. In all too many instances today, it's often worse. Obviously, your sense of morality is quite limited, as you seem unaware of the world wide spiritual knife fight taking place before your eyes. Morality is a broad topic, and I'll not exclude such information as I deem critical to such, no matter the venue. Such is the fight between Good and evil...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dOOFB8fs38
I'll leave the propaganda to the so called "worshipful" ::) 'massters' :o among us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
At any rate, Yahweh bless you and your associates in Christ Yeshua,
:'(
TS
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Leave it to a noob with a user name like "masster" to overestimate himself on the topic.
probably too much blessings kept your attention away from a simple fact: I created this topic.
as for my username, you have not even a clue what the acronym stands for.
so let's keep a scientific language in here without trolling and flaming.
we have smart users prepared to talk to the topic. don't try monopolize it.
blessings.
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I feel on the one side you have 99,9% of the folks that want to share but they have nothing to share.
They often do not realize the danger involved.
Why would you put your life at stake if you can silently use it for the rest of your life?
This planet is going down anyway.
On the other side there is the 0,1% that has someting working but they do not know what to do....
They do know it's almost impossible to get rich from it.
Or somebody else will take it and claim it as his invention.
They are often affraid, they want to share but are affraid they will be stopped, not the technology but they are affraid "they" will hurt them.
And on the other hand they think, i have build this for myself, so i won't freeze in the winter,i will keep this and nobody needs to know ,fuck the rest of the world it was my own hard work, they don't deserve it.
Then some other moment they want to share but then time after time they decide not to because time after time there are other people who say stupid things to them because these people do not know they are with the 0.1% so then the inventor thinks i will just keep it and only share it with my friends.
And then there is the stream of fakers and dis-info agents who never stop adding scams to the device pool and etc.
These people belong to the 99,9% but want to, they pretend to be with the 0,1%
I dunno, it's kinda complicated... :-\
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I am glad you brought up your thoughts.
talking about these issues is better than keeping all bottled inside.
and I agree that fear can be a factor in this equation.
we all have after all a deep instinctual brain: "the flee or fight" one.
soon we will have to fight against our fears cleverly nourished by media.
and when sufficient people will get to the "ignition point" and remember they have a mission in life, they will stand up, they will create and they will share.
I believe those men will forever be remembered and honored for getting us free from poverty and energy slavery. and I think this is worth dying for...
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I doubt anything is worth dying for.
Do you have any idea what will happen if the current economic structure collapses?
Tax is the biggest part on gasoline and energy.
What will happen if this falls away?
I often think, okay they have to figure out something else to put tax on.
But we won't reach there, because the devices will be forbidden before they are put to use.
They will find something be it a radiation or that it might disrupt air traffic control, wireless network systems, pace makers, you name it.
Eventually , i think they would like to build one large station and still use the grid to transport the energy.
This way they can still sell the energy.
Like i said, i dunno, it's complicated :-\
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I'm pretty torn between:
I would take the secret to my grave, fed up with people's low moral
I would give it free to mankind by posting all details on internet
I mean, I know how to spread this kind of information without it being suppressed, but I feel that if I did share this information, I'd be giving it to all the people I hate. Namely theists & fascists.
Sometimes I think that if I were able to create a free energy source, live in comfort never having to work again, than all the world could burn for all I care. But when I think of all the things I could be enjoying if power wasn't an obstacle for the development of technology and being so tired of constantly hearing about how crap things are in the news, it makes me want to share it so I could benefit even further & not have to keep hearing about how shitty things are.
Not to mention how if I kept it to myself 'the powers that be' might have a problem with my living in such comfort & could potentially off me at any given time really doesn't help the whole "keep it to myself" argument, because the more people who know about it, the less important I would seem as a target. ;)
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Don't forget the Fact that the Bible revealed exactly WHO would be in power in our day, what they would be doing, and how it would all play out.
It also reveals the extent of their power militarily, economically, socially, and spiritually.
Also, we are told that the earth would wobble to and fro like a drunkard...the heavenly bodies being out of place in the sky....and that the oceans would be greatly agitated.
All of these things have happened, or are happening at this moment.
Of course, one could fill many pages with the accurate warnings and beneficial advice given in God's Holy Word regarding the end of the age of corruption of mankind.
Man is so self-centered that he thinks that he reigns supreme, refusing to believe that He who created us is truly in control. The "technologies" of God, are unfathomable by mortal mankind....thus he discounts the many indicators of the truth to his utter peril.
Free energy is coming soon enough. The REAL Free Energy. And along with it, the free gift of eternal life to all who have properly placed their faith, and acted accordingly.
Blessings all, in Christ Yeshua
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Hey! wait a minute!
the Weapon option wasn't there when i voted....
i want to change my answer!!
and thank you to the above poster who mentioned the "T-word"
for you have brought forth that which you despise...
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Don't forget the Fact that the Bible revealed exactly WHO would be in power in our day, what they would be doing, and how it would all play out.
That's the kind of shit that makes me think I should keep free energy to myself. Religious nutjobs like you who look to a fucking bible for predeterministic answers rather than thinking about them for your own damn self. If I shared technology with you, you'd credit a god, and not human innovation. I'd rather you not have the luxury of freedom if you choose to be so ignorant towards reality.
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I feel that if I did share this information, I'd be giving it to all the people I hate.
I understand what you mean, but then again you must ignore them as much as possible and instead try to remember the few people who have shared their knowledge to mankind until now. Most of them were poor and probably hated to giveaway their ideas - still they did, and many of these inventions have made it into today's technology, which we are using mostly without even knowing the origin. Also think of people you like, or your future children (if you have some), and imagine how happy they would be with an invention that provides energy independency. It's worth for the few people you do not hate :)
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you missed option 7
Make lots of vids put them on youtube etc and taunt everyone with it and laugh and say "look what i got" but then never disclose how it actually works!
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If I shared technology with you, you'd credit a god, and not human innovation. I'd rather you not have the luxury of freedom if you choose to be so ignorant towards reality.
One man's reality is another's fantasy unrealized. The vast majority of the world chooses to believe in a higher power because of the evidence, not the lack thereof. And for us, the evidence is overwhelming and cannot be ignored....that all us unfolding exactly as foretold.
Of course, that won't stop those who prefer to follow the only commandment in the satanic bible, namely "do as thou wilt", from trying to pull some grand stand plays in order to desperately grab for a few more moments this side of forever.
After all, it's all spelled out on the lowly dollar bill. They've been rubbing our noses in it for decades.
Novus Ordo Seclorum = New order of the ages or new world order.
The pernicious hexagram or six pointed star, a geometric six within six within six located above the head of the eagle signifies that one of their own will lead the nation. Masons have figured prominently in presidential lineage.
http://www.henrymakow.com/obama_a_president_for_freemaso.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCecsqvbOys
So, please pardon me for sparking your uncontrolled vehemence toward God's Word. His Prophecies are certainly not the only ones out there. He is the Only One capable of fulfilling all of His, however.
Blessings dear readers in Christ Yeshua
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The vast majority of the world chooses to believe in a higher power because of the evidence, not the lack thereof.
Post some of it then, and I'll explain to you how it can easily & be better explained without the existence of a god.that all is unfolding exactly as foretold.
That's called a self-fulfilling prophecy. People want to believe something will happen, so they make it happen, or if it doesn't they re-interpret the prophecy so it referes to a different event entirely. So tell me, what prophecies would free energy play a part in? And I don't want to hear that dollar bill crap, because that's not a "prophecy" so much as it is a sign that they're in control and practically admitting it.
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I understand what you mean, but then again you must ignore them as much as possible and instead try to remember the few people who have shared their knowledge to mankind until now. Most of them were poor and probably hated to giveaway their ideas - still they did, and many of these inventions have made it into today's technology, which we are using mostly without even knowing the origin. Also think of people you like, or your future children (if you have some), and imagine how happy they would be with an invention that provides energy independency. It's worth for the few people you do not hate :)
+1 :)
All i see is future children with gasmasks because they are unable to breath without them.
You are right, they are worth it.
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So what exactly does this all have to do with this poll and overunity?
I think it's best if you searched for some religious forum or something like that.
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Abandon all hope ye who enter...
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I would not like to be that guy with the nails on his head when a thunderstorm moves in ;D
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So what exactly does this all have to do with this poll and overunity?
I think it's best if you searched for some religious forum or something like that.
Actually, It's fairly topical. He convinced me that I should share overunity if I were ever to discover it. If only to prove idiots like him wrong. We are our creators, and we are the ones who shape our world. And maybe if people like him were spoon-fed the power they need to have total control their own lives & live it the way they'd like to, than they'd realize the idiocy of unseen forces dominating over human life.
Oh & TechStuf, I just love how you managed to completely avoid answering any of my questions. But maybe you can answer me this question; if you read about an inventor (who may or may not be myself) who invented a free energy generator, with plans freely available online that you managed to easily get working yourself. Then you find out that the inventor openly admits to being an atheist as hateful towards organized religion as myself. Then what do you do? Do you claim it's the work of the devil, or do you say that it's all a part of gods plan that you be saved by an atheist?
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This is an ENERGY forum. not a RELIGION forum....
Why does this guy feel the need to post mythology on a science and technology forum? Does what we are doing, somehow threaten his belief in the god-fairy?
comments like " most of humanity belives in god because of evidence" is complete nonsense. there is NO evidence of god(s).
yet, there have been thousands of UNPROVEN god(s) throughout human history.
Most of society believes in god(s) because they dont want to THINK about how everything works / exists/ came to exist.
their god(s) answer all those questions for them.
i call them "sheeple", because like lemmings, they just fall in line.
and believe whatever rediculousness their particular mythology tells them to believe. like the earth "wobbling to and fro".
this was duscissed in great detail, exact precise experiments set up and performed on the solstice that disproved this nonsense. yet still he is here spouting it out, as if it were true...
There is 10,000+ websites on the internet, where people are welcomed to go and discuss mythology.
This is not one of them..
I dont have anything against religous people, and the "believers" of any mythology are more than welcome here as far as im concerned. but this is not really the place for that type of discussion. Thats not what this forum is about.
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Try reading our(or just my) posts first before you start typing.
This topic is about morality & our choices if we did invent free energy & why. This yutz is helping me decide if I'd keep it to myself, or share it with the world. Personally, I'd rather not share it with sheeple like him, but if sharing overunity with the world would help people experience more Independence, freedom & luxury at the hands of man-made technology, than maybe religion will meet it's obsolescence that much faster. But I'm still fairly torn.
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please ignore TechStaf.
he (it?) is just a bot (literally or metaphorically) using a script to scramble nonsense fanatic propaganda phrases with sole purpose of disrupting the exchange of ideas.
its comments have the same length, the same format, the same words and the same nonsense message.
from time to time the (sick) person behind this bot is intervening just to stir the s**t a little more.
it is only a virus. treat it accordingly and please focus on topic. your comments will help understanding the true human nature of inventors.
and don't forget mentioning to what category past known "free energy" inventors belong.
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If it's one thing that all the antiChrists have in common, it's that you love sophomoric attacks on the beliefs of those who believe in The Higher power, while ignoring the Mountain of Evidence that supports the accuracy of God's Word. Of course, most children today are exposed to various pernicious indoctrinations which, sadly, pass for education....and this progresses right on through the college level.
sophomoric? what is sophomoric or pretentious is your use of the phrase 'evidence that supports the accuracy of god's word'. you have yet to present any evidence of the 'accuracy of god's word'... even worse, in attempting to do that, you place the cart squarely in front of the horse. there is no point to vet the 'word' of god WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO VET YOUR IMAGINARY DEITY!
Notice readers, that they Never discuss the True Evidence presented. This is a tactic they always employ. They do this because such discussion only sheds more light on who is really who and Why it matters! They prefer instead to attempt to shift focus away from themselves and their associates whenever and however they can.
you have yet to present any 'true' evidence... words from a book that is allegedly 'divinely inspired' mean absolutely nothing when you refuse to vet the divinity allegedly responsible for said inspiration.
And the sad fact of the matter is that the ONLY way TPTB will allow truly Free Energy to propagate, is if it is ushered in as part of some diabolical attempt to appear as if the 'good guys' have won.
Finally achieving their objective, if but for an hour, of employing Hegelian Dialectics in order to achieve their desired "synthesis".
assumes facts not in evidence.
techstuf, i have taken the liberty of creating a thread just for you (since you can't seem to figure out how to create one on your own) where you can vet your deity and proselytize to your heart's content. http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9468
please use it and quit polluting other threads with your stories of your imaginary friends.
to the topic, i would keep it. this apathetic modern society can keep what it has, it richly deserves it...
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Could've fooled me
that's obviously quite easy to do. you willingly believe in imaginary friends because some old book written by ignorant men long ago told you to...
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... Afterall, just like Religion, there are many gathered here that are True Believers in 'free energy'.
... and belief in 'free' energy require F-A-I-T-H.
while i may have to agree with you, that some people "believe" in 'free energy' much like the belief in an invisible, magical god-creature capable of 'poofing' humans and earths into existence...
The main difference here is, that 'free energy' is a known fact to some people, who can prove that it exists through experimentation.
i myself spent nearly two decades studying the religions of mankind in search of definitive proof of a mythological god-creature(s), and to this day have not discovered any way to interact with it/them on a physical level. It is my experienced conclusion that god(s) only exist in the minds of the believers, and that they do not manifest themselves anywhere in the physical world outside of the imagination.
If you have definitive proof of your god-fairy, please feel free to share it. i think someone even gave you your own thread to do so...
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http://hackersclub.net/Ernest_Holmes_The_Science_of_Mind_1926.pdf
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Masster, WilbyInebriated & Sm0ky2 you all act like perfectly reasonable & intelligent people, would you mind sharing what & why you chose your answers? Keeping in mind that if this information were publicized, than nutjobs like TechStuf all over the world would benefit from it too.
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I would freely share the invention with the world, free of charge. Preferably, no one would ever know I was the one who initially invented it. So, free of glory or fame as well.
Those who suppress free energy are greedy, prideful, arrogant, and extremely, extremely powerful.
Anyone who would attempt a David-and-Goliath to take these elites down for the count needs to be sure NOT to fight them on THEIR playing field. He, or she, needs to release the information for replication of the free energy device without lusting for power, money, or fame. Do that and you're not playing on their turf.
If you attempt to make tons of money off your invention, corner the market on energy and make everyone on earth dependent on you for their energy needs, or seek fame and glory from the world for inventing it, you are playing on their field, their turf, and they're better at being greedy, prideful, envious, and arrogant than you are. They will crush you if you show up on their home field to fight.
The Plan: Build a device that uses a free, reliable, renewable source of energy that is not limited to daytime operation only (solar) or windy conditions (windmill) or moving water remaining unfrozen (hydro) to produce enough energy for the average home user. The device needs to be built from off-the-shelf parts and must not be too complicated for DIY assembly. A parts list, blueprints, and assembly instructions would be freely given in hard copy and posted to the net. The average Joe or Jane holding these documents would ideally be able to purchase the parts from the parts list, take the parts and blueprints and assembly instructions to a local craftsman and pay that person to build the device. An electrician would then be called in to wire the replicated device to the fuse box and the home would immediately be off the grid. People would be encouraged to photocopy the documents and pass them along to friends and family.
There, that's how you beat suppression. Do that and you never walk on the elite's playing field to do battle and you don't get crushed. The power providers would die a slow death within fifty years.
Sadly, there are not very many people who can invent a free energy device to begin with. Out of those few, there are fewer still who would be willing to put time and energy and resources into building a working device just because it's the right thing to do. My biggest problem by far is finding one person with the mechanical skills to fabricate a device who is not driven by greed, pride, or glory. I've found people with the mechanical skills I need to accomplish a device for home energy production, but not one of them was willing to do it just because it's the right thing to do. Every one of them wanted to control the people with it, or become fabulously wealthy and powerful. WTH, since when does having mechanical skills or figuring out how to build a free energy machine qualify one to rule the world?
Now, what would an affordable home unit that produces enough free energy to run the average home mean to the world?
Well, the unit could run an atmospheric condenser, which would make enough drinkable water for the family from the moisture in the air---no more drought! The water could also be used to water crops without the need for irrigation.
The unit could provide heat or air conditioning free of charge, for those who live in extreme climates.
The unit could run lights for indoor crops. No more food shortages anywhere in the world.
The unit could recharge electric vehicles, produce hydrogen for vehicles to run on, or provide heat for distillation of fuel alcohol to run vehicles.
An up-scaled unit could desalinize ocean water to provide fresh drinking water. The units could also be used to pump that water inland via pipelines.
I'm positive other uses I haven't even thought of would come up if we-the-people were free to use it in whatever way we choose.
When I look at the opportunity to take out the elites (Battle of a lifetime!!!!!!!) and give we-the-people a fighting chance to change OUR world for the better, I can't imagine why anyone would let greed, envy, arrogance, pride, and a lust for power get in the way of that. It literally leaves me shaking my head in confusion when I see would-be inventors trying to figure out how to become rich and famous from their invention despite the suppression imposed by the elites. So far, the inventors have lost every single time. Those who can not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, fellow inventors. The definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing again and again and expecting a different result each time. Don't go the way of Stan Meyer; try a different way if you don't want to wind up like him.
So, there's my case for releasing the device to the world.
PS, if anyone has any ideas about how to find a good person, as defined above, with the mechanical skills to assist an inventor in bringing an invention from theory to reality, please PM me. ;D
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You sure said a lot of what, but not a lot of why. Once you've obtained free energy, why should you have to share it? Especially if you know that you'll be sharing it with a bunch of idiotic ingrates.
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You sure said a lot of what, but not a lot of why. Once you've obtained free energy, why should you have to share it? Especially if you know that you'll be sharing it with a bunch of idiotic ingrates.
a bunch of idiotic ingrates is sharing todays a lot inventions and so, if they share one more ?
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You sure said a lot of what, but not a lot of why. Once you've obtained free energy, why should you have to share it? Especially if you know that you'll be sharing it with a bunch of idiotic ingrates.
your going to build one for yourself of course. then what about mom? she gets one right?
then your brother and your sisters idiot husband and so on til the whole world has one anyway.
don't forget mother nature is a blabbermouth and will tell anyone that asks the right question.
or in other words if you can do it what makes you think others can not?
fritznien
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a bunch of idiotic ingrates is sharing todays a lot inventions and so, if they share one more ?
Yes but that means taking risks.
Why do so?
Name one good reason?
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the risk could be if only small group or one country have powerful invention.
if this invention have everybody - the risk = 0
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Say ufo technology is real and has been real for thousands of years. These beings cohabitate the Earth amongst other planets and routinely come herer for water or to eat or generally promote their civilization. Now why in the world would they allow the smart monkeys who like killing each other because they get adrenaline rushes from such activity have free energy technology. In fact the animals already have it and the first thing they do is turn it into weapons for mass destruction of other tribes of smart monkeys. What is their alternative but to disarm the chimps so they dont annihalate each other and scoop up any technology that would be dangerous in the hands of what they perceive as children. Would you allow your 5 year old to run around with handgrenades and use them to throw at the dog. The advent of neuclear power is a profound advancement in technological terms of a civilization. Will we survive it. Should we survive it. Will we become an exploitive species that moves from planet to planet disrupting life there. Will we have a global flag and global star fleets that bring home captives from other planets and enslave them doing our mundane chores while we go around on personal pursuits to satisfy our every whim. Will we respect life. By all past indiciations we will not and therefore we will be dealt with like the children we are.
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I removed some religious posts over here,
cause it was offtopic and had some affiliate links in it,
which is against the TOS.
Please stay ontopic.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
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if the maches in childrens hands is dangerous, mature people need to refuse use it ?
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@harti
thank you for helping this topic again by cleaning religious propaganda replies.
we will be able to breathe easier from now on.
@Nihilanth
thank you for being a part of this exchange of ideas. as the initiator of this topic and poll I couldn't be more happy when I see there are down to earth people willing to answer to a challenging issue: are we, humans, capable to withstand such a great responsibility on our shoulders ? or is our moral fabric so thin that we will be no part of any major technical revolution ?
so my choice would be to share my invention with humankind. whatever risks involved. period.
although "I would take the secret to my grave, fed up with people's low moral" is very appealing too :)
but then I was asking myself: wasn't that the choice of the vast majority of past legendary "free-energy" inventors ? let's not be afraid name big names. should I make the same mistake they did ?
of course there would be some bitter taste in my mouth when I'd share my invention, but hey... that's progress. the benefit will be that many sane people will have a better life. although there will be also some sick, limping monkeys dragged along with this new wave of technology, I am very confident they will have to learn to stand up or eat bananas forever...
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But there is another thing.
Prototypes are expensive.
And i mean real expensive.
Early prototypes may look like the are cheap but there can be thousants of dollars spent on it's background research and earlier failure models.
So you have build your first working unit, and it has cost you say 50.000$
This covers most of your research, equipment tools and materials used.
The final design is made up of parts that alone cost say 50 $
So we have a problem here.
You have done all the hard work and you have spend all your money.
This means no nice car no house no saved money ,nothing but a working model.
If you give this away it starts to fuck with your mind.
Others can just spend 50$ and get it without having to go through all the way you went.
So you drop back to the "who want's it and is willing to do something for it will find it without my help" thing.
And that actually works very nicely, but then you see there are not much people who are willing to drop their car or house.
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Personally, I don't think that would bother me. Unless I did it, I'd probably think it wouldn't have gotten done. And considering the possible economic impacts of free energy, I think the value of that money would have shot straight though the ground anyway. With a few, much smaller investments I could probably live comfortably & unemployed for the rest of my life thanks to OU. And in the end, isn't that what we all want, to not have to go to work? :P
@massterwhen it comes to "take the secret to my grave, fed up with people's low moral" vs sharing it, I think I'd share it. I've remembered that there are groups I hate almost as much as religious fanatics, those being free energy denialists & large energy companies/organizations actively involved in suppressing free energy inventors. Ignoring any overlap, I'd be hurting one group I hate at the cost of helping the other, and helping everyone else. That and as it's been said earlier, the more people who know it, the less important of a target I'd be.
One thing to consider though while trying to spread a free energy schematic is that most people aren't too knowledgeable of electronics. The easier it is to replicate, the more people will be making it/testing it. Trying to wire something with the output of a single wall socket or higher, there's a greater risk for people to get hurt or kill themselves. The second most common power source around the house (or at least in mine) is the AA battery which is basically harmless. In my opinion we need more experimentation with low power designs, especially if they could be more scalable.
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But there is another thing.
Prototypes are expensive.
And i mean real expensive.
Early prototypes may look like the are cheap but there can be thousants of dollars spent on it's background research and earlier failure models.
So you have build your first working unit, and it has cost you say 50.000$
This covers most of your research, equipment tools and materials used.
The final design is made up of parts that alone cost say 50 $
So we have a problem here.
You have done all the hard work and you have spend all your money.
This means no nice car no house no saved money ,nothing but a working model.
If you give this away it starts to fuck with your mind.
Others can just spend 50$ and get it without having to go through all the way you went.
So you drop back to the "who want's it and is willing to do something for it will find it without my help" thing.
And that actually works very nicely, but then you see there are not much people who are willing to drop their car or house.
There's some serious truth here that this forum needs to address bigtime. It's a lot of time and money that goes into this endeavor of free energy/overunity. People have families and bills. Everything we do is based on dollars. HELL, one of the biggest reasons people want free energy is to save money. A little hypocrisy there... And we all want to have cleaner energy too. The one thing that I can say and I'm guessing many others here can too is that the search for overunity is not cheap. I've spent enough money that I'm way past ready to call it quits. Even the demands for the overunity prize is not cheap and will not leave you with any prize money in the end.
Why not have some minimal financial reward for achievement here? By doing so you would bring in more people willing to spend their own money to accomplish the task. I totally agree this shouldn't be something for greed. I have no desire to be or see the next bill gates come out of an overunity success; but it would be nice to see enough money to compensate all the time and work and family needs at a minimum. Isn't there a way one could be paid a little and still have it end up being cheap/clean energy for everyone? Is there some middleground? Where everyone can be a part of it and still be compensated for the time and money and years put in?
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And in the end, isn't that what we all want, to not have to go to work? :P
You don't have to go to work if you don't want to.
And having a free energy device isn't going to change anything about that you would still have to pay for your house water and alot of things etc.
Why not have some minimal financial reward for achievement here? By doing so you would bring in more people willing to spend their own money to accomplish the task. I totally agree this shouldn't be something for greed. I have no desire to be or see the next bill gates come out of an overunity success; but it would be nice to see enough money to compensate all the time and work and family needs at a minimum. Isn't there a way one could be paid a little and still have it end up being cheap/clean energy for everyone? Is there some middleground? Where everyone can be a part of it and still be compensated for the time and money and years put in?
I would say the prize needs to go up further this way it will compensate even more and stimulate people to do research and devellopment.
Spending money on diffrent projects means there will be money lost on things that will not make it so this means that the winner will get less money just because of that.
By the way people who do this as a hobby do not want money from others.
At least i do not.
This reminds me of the magniworks scam.
THey did a real good job at selling those so called how to guides.
Unfortunatly it was a scam but they did make some serious money.
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So we have a problem here.
You have done all the hard work and you have spend all your money.
This means no nice car no house no saved money ,nothing but a working model.
let's step back a little and have a look at the bigger picture.
or even better, let's watch the following movie:
News Headline: Today, March 9th 2011, Thomas Auer, a german inventor from a small village near Leipzig, released online simultaneously all over the major international servers the full blueprints of a new revolutionary device that will change for ever the way we know and use energy. Made from not too expensive materials, the majority of us will be capable of building it and use it to power our house and car for FREE. Contacted by our crew, Thomas statement was: "I created this device because I believe people were slaves of energy corporations. From now on, energy freedom will be a fact and nobody will be able to suppress this information from getting to the rightful owners: we, simple decent people. My only wish is that everybody make my device plans available for free and not take any profit from it. We will prevail."
End of movie.
So now let me ask you this: will people ever repay Thomas ? Will they be indifferent towards the greatest inventor alive who brought them the biggest gift in human history ? Will he be able to pay his rent, house mortgage, etc ? Come on...
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You don't have to go to work if you don't want to.
And having a free energy device isn't going to change anything about that you would still have to pay for your house water and alot of things etc.
I would say the prize needs to go up further this way it will compensate even more and stimulate people to do research and devellopment.
Spending money on diffrent projects means there will be money lost on things that will not make it so this means that the winner will get less money just because of that.
By the way people who do this as a hobby do not want money from others.
At least i do not.
This reminds me of the magniworks scam.
THey did a real good job at selling those so called how to guides.
Unfortunatly it was a scam but they did make some serious money.
it's a hobby for me too. I do not want to get rich off this or scam people. In fact I have a stickied thread on the Magnet Motors forum complaining/exposing magniworks. With that said there is a point to money and the goal of overunity. If there were some middleground, some payoff, it would entice a more serious endeavor from a larger field. We all know we've seen a bulk of scammers ripping people off over the years. It would be nice to be able to take this goal of overunity up a few steps and leave the scam artists and hoaxters behind. I don't know how that can be done, but I'm sure it is something worthy of talking about.
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Something works, or something does not...
There is no middle in between so how would you do that?
By the looks? or by the theory behind it?
I don't think that's the correct way...
I can see that some small thing can be improved to become something bigger do.
But then you can give money to anybody that thinks they can do it and that are a lot of people, i don't think there is so much money and alot will be lost.
And then again, who decides who get's some and who does not?
Also would you give money to starters, the ones that still need to develop their skills, or to die hards that are on the job for a long time and thus have spend alot of money already?
We could allow people to present what they are working on, and based on that other people could pick projects they want to support. :)
Be it by votes or even by making small donations...
The 3 months one watt challenge is actually a good one because it creates the solid base to build on and the first who wins this get's the money.
I think it's fair and i also think this person has spend much time and money on it, still i know the prize is nothing compared to what they have done.
I still think one prize is best, the first that delivers a device that meets the 3 month one watt challenge deserves it right away.
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You don't have to go to work if you don't want to.
But I enjoy not being homeless.
And having a free energy device isn't going to change anything about that you would still have to pay for your house water and a lot of things etc.
An unlimited power supply has an unlimited potential for doing work. Free energy doesn't directly give water, but technically could power a dehumidifier & extract water from the air. It would also provide heating, cooling, light & obviously power to computer automated machinery. Everyone could potentially be self-sufficient. The only thing left would be taxes. And at that point money itself would seem redundant without needing jobs or public utilities, except for stupid luxurious junk like ipods.
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But I enjoy not being homeless.
See this is how black and white you think.
I know people who do not work and who are nowhere near homeless.
It's the decission you make to go to work and not going to work does not mean you have to be homeless.
An unlimited power supply has an unlimited potential for doing work. Free energy doesn't directly give water, but technically could power a dehumidifier & extract water from the air. It would also provide heating, cooling, light & obviously power to computer automated machinery. Everyone could potentially be self-sufficient. The only thing left would be taxes. And at that point money itself would seem redundant without needing jobs or public utilities, except for stupid luxurious junk like ipods.
I notice many times people do not have a realistic view about free energy.
Some think that once you have something working people will start to knock on your door and start to deliver boxes filled with money at your doorstep so you can pay the rent for the rest of your life or something like that.
There won't be any of that.
Some think we can get rid of all jobs because we have found free energy.
How many do you know of that have a roof filled up with solar panels?
It does not change anything exept that you don't get a bill from the utility company.
You can't just quit your job because of that.
If you want to quit your job you will heve to be alot smarter then this.
it won't happen overnight, it will be a long road, lot of time.
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See this is how black and white you think.
I know people who do not work and who are nowhere near homeless.
It's the decision you make to go to work and not going to work does not mean you have to be homeless.
Then how do I not go to work, not be homeless, not mooch off anybody or government program, and do it all without winning the lottery or robbing a bank?Some think that once you have something working people will start to knock on your door and start to deliver boxes filled with money at your doorstep so you can pay the rent for the rest of your life or something like that.
Good point. I'll move into an RV, and be constantly on the go. You can't tax what isn't there. Then again, if the tax collectors can do the same, I don't see why they'd bother. That's why it's good to share.Some think we can get rid of all jobs because we have found free energy.
You still haven't given a valid reason as to why we can't.How many do you know of that have a roof filled up with solar panels?
No one. Because solar power is weak, easily cut-off, expensive, and requires replacements every few years. Too much maintenance & too little cost-effectiveness. A motionless free electricity generator, with no parts that burn up or break down, well that's a different beast entirely.It does not change anything except that you don't get a bill from the utility company.
You can't just quit your job because of that.
Still have yet to hear a 'why'.If you want to quit your job you will have to be a lot smarter then this.
Well if you're so smart, why are you here?it won't happen overnight, it will be a long road, lot of time.
But once I have free energy, I'll have already won. I don't expect something like this to happen overnight, but once established, I know things can never go back to the way it was before.
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@XS-NRG
and don't forget the (solar panels)-(solid state free energy device=SSFED) comparison is like comparing apples and oranges.
because solar panels aren't your invention, they are expensive, they have small under-unity COP, they are weather and day dependent and so on.
I think that you have to do greater efforts in seeing the whole picture and imagining what will happen a few steps ahead. trust me, there are still good people alive. not everybody will take your invention for granted and say *uck him!".
/@XS-NRG
but let's not forget that we are here to discuss about inventors' moral fabric and not how to build a SSFED without any money and effort. IMHO an inventor able to share his invention with humankind for free has to know it takes a lot of sweat, blood and tears. progress = sacrifice. and if our first question is "why me ?" or "where money from ?" or etc. then we have to dig a hole, jump in and die because we are doomed.
unless we see farther than 2 inches in front of our eyes...
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you are not considering dangerous side effects. what if more than one of your devices are built to power a place and they are placed in a strange configuration you never intended on and the power being drained is not equal causing say a phase variance difference on some energy level we do not understand yet.
this is where I am at. holding it secret till I know it is not capable of other things and is safe no matter what or at least as safe as current electrical generation systems that are kept in peoples homes and RV's and such
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Then how do I not go to work, not be homeless, not mooch off anybody or government program, and do it all without winning the lottery or robbing a bank?
You start your own busness and make alot of money.
Then there will be a point where you can sit back and relax if you do it the right way.
Simple isn't it?
You still haven't given a valid reason as to why we can't.
Okay so from this answer i make up you are living in some sort of dream world and you are thinking free energy will solve all the problems in the world...it isn't going to happen.
Free energy isn't going to change a thing other then a cleaner biosphere.
Things still need to be done, sure you can transport goods with a free energy powered truck, but it still needs a driver.
You should think some more about it.
No one. Because solar power is weak, easily cut-off, expensive, and requires replacements every few years. Too much maintenance & too little cost-effectiveness.
Okay so now i am getting a bit angry.
Now you are talking plain bullshit here.
It is clear to me you do not know what you are talking about.
My entire house is solar powered and i cannot call it weak, you just need to install enough panels.
I sometimes disconnect the battery's when there is too much sun, weak no way!
Sure they are not too effecient but hey i have all the energy i need.
It does not need maintance at all and BPsolar gives a 25 year power gurantee and you call that a replacement every few years...i am sure they go well over 25 years actually.
If you do not now what you are talking about i suggest you shut up.
My solar panels do not even come close to the cost of my research and development! they are cheap compared to that.
Please buy some!!! then we can talk again.I recommend them!!!
A motionless free electricity generator, with no parts that burn up or break down, well that's a different beast entirely.
Your appliance does not care about where the power comes from.
Nothing changes other then you do not have to pay for the energy...
Well if you're so smart, why are you here?
I am here to see if there are people that can convince me, that i should share my work.
But people like you even make me wanne leave.
But once I have free energy, I'll have already won.
If you ever find it, it will help you understand my point of view.
@XS-NRG
and don't forget the (solar panels)-(solid state free energy device=SSFED) comparison is like comparing apples and oranges.
because solar panels aren't your invention, they are expensive, they have small under-unity COP, they are weather and day dependent and so on.
They are in one word: GREAT!
I think that you have to do greater efforts in seeing the whole picture and imagining what will happen a few steps ahead. trust me, there are still good people alive. not everybody will take your invention for granted and say *uck him!".
I think i am looking at a bigger picture then you are looking at.
I may be wrong.
but let's not forget that we are here to discuss about inventors' moral fabric and not how to build a SSFED without any money and effort. IMHO an inventor able to share his invention with humankind for free has to know it takes a lot of sweat, blood and tears. progress = sacrifice. and if our first question is "why me ?" or "where money from ?" or etc. then we have to dig a hole, jump in and die because we are doomed.
unless we see farther than 2 inches in front of our eyes...
You have no idea what is 2 inches in front of my eyes.
I am looking for reasons i have only seen one yet.
About our future children living in a clean environment and that they deserve it.
you are not considering dangerous side effects. what if more than one of your devices are built to power a place and they are placed in a strange configuration you never intended on and the power being drained is not equal causing say a phase variance difference on some energy level we do not understand yet.
this is where I am at. holding it secret till I know it is not capable of other things and is safe no matter what or at least as safe as current electrical generation systems that are kept in peoples homes and RV's and such
Current electrical systems are very dangerous.
The ac comming from the wall can kill you.
I can touch the poles of my battery's without dying or getting a shock.
It takes more metal at lower voltages so bigger wires have to be used for the same power.
That's about the only drawback i can think of.
But you are right FE appliances have to be safe.
It's quite hard to achieve because most of them use high voltages and can go into melt down.
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You start your own busness and make a lot of money.
Then there will be a point where you can sit back and relax if you do it the right way.
Simple isn't it?
But not everyone can be a rich do-nothing. There are other people in the business who'd have to do the work. And there's no guarantee it would last.
Okay so from this answer i make up you are living in some sort of dream world and you are thinking free energy will solve all the problems in the world...it isn't going to happen.
Free energy isn't going to change a thing other then a cleaner biosphere.
Things still need to be done, sure you can transport goods with a free energy powered truck, but it still needs a driver.
You should think some more about it.
If everyone can their own goods made with autonomous freely-powered machinery, then why would it need to be transported? Autonomous vehicles, and autonomous everything-else-I-can-think-of are constantly becoming more developed & practical. The only real hurdles come from power supplies & programming.
Okay so now i am getting a bit angry.
Now you are talking plain bullshit here.
It is clear to me you do not know what you are talking about.
You're becoming angry because you're argument is getting more futile and you're refusing to accept it.[/quote]
My entire house is solar powered and i cannot call it weak, you just need to install enough panels.
I sometimes disconnect the battery's when there is too much sun, weak no way!
Sure they are not too efficient but hey i have all the energy i need.
It does not need maintance at all and BPsolar gives a 25 year power gurantee and you call that a replacement every few years...i am sure they go well over 25 years actually.
If you do not now what you are talking about i suggest you shut up.
My solar panels do not even come close to the cost of my research and development! they are cheap compared to that.
Please buy some!!! then we can talk again.I recommend them!!!
I won't buy some because they are too expensive for me to afford. And considering the number of panels required for adequate power, I have to imagine how much of my property would need to be covered in them, and how not everyone has the real estate to put them on. The area of my roof(and the roofs of almost everyone I know) that faces the sun during the day, is 12 by 18 feet. How many watts can solar produce with that much space? How much do you pay for all these panels? And if you think solar is so great, then why are you putting money into energy research and development when you think you've got it so well made?
25 years is a descent step up, considering that they used to last about 5 years.
Your appliance does not care about where the power comes from. Nothing changes other then you do not have to pay for the energy...
Except for not having to worry about it breaking down, or replacing dead batteries, or needing to be anchored to plots of land, or paying for fuel, the list goes on.
I am here to see if there are people that can convince me, that i should share my work.
But people like you even make me wanne leave.
What does anything I've said have to do with that? By the looks of it I'm guessing you invent some kind of solar panel?
You have no idea what is 2 inches in front of my eyes.
I am looking for reasons i have only seen one yet.
About our future children living in a clean environment and that they deserve it.
Well, for starters we did kinda screw up the environment & are leaving it for them to deal with. And the second (and better) reason is that if they're not wasting all of their youthful effort on trying to clean up the environment & powering their cars & what have you, they could be spending their time on luxuries for us to use, and medical advancements like life-extending technology.
Current electrical systems are very dangerous.
The ac comming from the wall can kill you.
I can touch the poles of my battery's without dying or getting a shock.
It takes more metal at lower voltages so bigger wires have to be used for the same power.
That's about the only drawback i can think of.
But you are right FE appliances have to be safe.
It's quite hard to achieve because most of them use high voltages and can go into melt down.
That's why I think we should be more focused on scalable, low-amp methods for generating FE, so more people can replicate it with less chance of killing themselves.
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Well if you're so smart, why are you here?
I am here to see if there are people that can convince me, that i should share my work.
But people like you even make me wanne leave.
I am not going to spend anymore time on this meaningless discussion.
It's not worth my time, sorry.
Good luck on your free energy device.
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Why did you switch the times & order of our posts?
If you want to leave because people keep asking reasonable questions, then I honestly doubt you have anything of value to share.
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Safety issues are huge when it comes to unlimited energy. But if you dont do it who is going to do it. The department of energy suppose to be doing it with US taxpayers dollars but this department has been reduced to handing out grant money to scientists and Universities that end up giving the technological advances of the lab into the hands of corporations, Unlimited energy is unlimited power. It belongs in no human group that I can think of. We are going to need some help with this one.
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@Nihilanth & XS-NRG
now we know your pro & against arguments concerning our topic. there is no need (nor possible) to convince each other of your better judgment, thus showing us at a small scale where we stand today.
because you are both well spoken "free energy" advocates, I am asking you to debate a subject that everybody seems to avoid: what was the choice of past and present legendary free energy inventors concerning our poll ? and why did they choose so.
here's a list of such inventors in a random order (feel free to add to discussion any other inventor of a SSFED)
Nikola Tesla
Floyd Sweet
Ed Gray
Donald Smith
Steven Mark
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Why did you switch the times & order of our posts?
If you want to leave because people keep asking reasonable questions, then I honestly doubt you have anything of value to share.
When people like you start to talk BS it's time to leave.
You are not reading, you are twisting peoples words, and you talk about things you do not know anything about.
Yesterday i had some time to order my post because i was waiting for the glue....
And i do not have anything of value to share.
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If you want to just ignore my perfectly valid statements & ignore my questions, that's perfectly fine by me. But I am not twisting your words, and if you think that I am, it might be because you're not good at expressing what it is you mean. "Yesterday i had some time to order my post because i was waiting for the glue...." What the fuck does that even mean?
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you missed option 7
Make lots of vids put them on youtube etc and taunt everyone with it and laugh and say "look what i got" but then never disclose how it actually works!
LOL
I've thought of doing this also.... ;D
But it's too mean.
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But I enjoy not being homeless.An unlimited power supply has an unlimited potential for doing work. Free energy doesn't directly give water, but technically could power a dehumidifier & extract water from the air. It would also provide heating, cooling, light & obviously power to computer automated machinery. Everyone could potentially be self-sufficient. The only thing left would be taxes. And at that point money itself would seem redundant without needing jobs or public utilities, except for stupid luxurious junk like ipods.
Also you could light and heat green houses and grow your own food.
That's one of my goals along with powering an electric car.
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Well, the answer I would select, is not in the selection, and is a little more complex...
However, given the limitations of the selections, I had to say...
"I would give it free to mankind by posting all details on Internet"
The only issue I have with that, is it getting into the hands of someone with bad intentions, or with poor understanding of what they are creating. Can you imagine everyone having access to nuclear power plants details or dumb people trying to build 100,000,000Mv Tesla transformers!
So, if I had to write an answer myself, this is what I would have selected...
I would firstly keep my mouth shut. With the device in possession, I would exploit every legal method of "cashing-in", without risking loss of the device. This would include doing a grid-tie system, at any loan-cost to myself, hiding my creation under the false image of alternate energy creation available today. EG, I would have dummy solar-cells installed, rip down any southern trees, throw-up a dummy wind-mill, fake geothermal and solar home heating, throw parties displaying all my expensive technology that cost me little to purchase... because it is fake.
All the while, actually feeding my surplus power directly into the grid, waiting for that first check.
Once that first check came in, I use that money to propagate in other remote locations, using a larger scale setup, across multiple grids. (So as not to deplete only one electric company of hard earned dirty power generation.)
Once I had enough money to go global, I would call a national meeting. The meeting would outline my desires and I would work with law-makers to ensure that any required protections were in place for the situations below, and any national security issues were addressed.
Eventually employ all energy providers and the people working for them, one at a time. Making my new employee's jobs being the uninstallation of dirty-generators, and instillation of the clean generators, as well as training them to manufacture and maintain the devices. (Power lines would still be required, and require upkeep, as it is not logical to remove them and install dangerous devices left to public personal control.)
There would be only a minimal upkeep fee, where demand was "greater than majority average", since power is a necessity, for growth and acceptable suppression. (Eg, Think of it like minimum wage. Every person would be entitled to a "free" volume of electricity, which is enough to cover all necessities for living, and some luxury power too.)
Since it will be in abundance, or rather, of lesser creation demands, it would be more like sanitary water, or foods. Untaxed, but still regulated for safety and to reduce abuse.
It is unrealistic to think that everyone would want to spend money on one of these devices, and a power regulators, and classes to learn how to operate and repair them, and no-one would be giving them away free. However, at this point, with the kinks worked out, and the device simplified to its safest maintainable smaller parts, it would become public domain. (Thus, it would also not be a threat to the installments, as power would be cheaper than the sum of the parts you would need to create them. However, for those needing off-grid location power, or special needs power, it would be available to them.)
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None of the above.
I would advertise, post all details on the internet, upscale it, lease it to humankind, donate 90% of revenues to charitable organizations that need this technology for infrastructure purposes, and use 5%-to-9% of revenues to develop and maintain a transportation network control system to serve such organizations and companies having similar goals.
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The only issue I have with that, is it getting into the hands of someone with bad intentions, or with poor understanding of what they are creating.
This is true for any past, present or future invention. You could use a nail clipper for hijacking a plane and "sliding" it into WTC like a hot knife through butter ::)
I would firstly keep my mouth shut. With the device in possession, I would exploit every legal method of "cashing-in", without risking loss of the device.
You see... I have to stop your theory right here, because you don't own on a private island (or maybe you do :) ). Even your nosy neighbors will turn you in. Not to mention you're trying to hide from the "benevolent" state that will use any legal and illegal methods to ransom your house, steal your device, mock you, gag you or even kill you. Sorry to be the messenger of bad news, but we have to see the big picture which is "FREE ENERGY WILL CREATE A NEW SOCIETY" and this is major, we are not talking about inventing hot water, this is HUGE. The reason I put this pole on forum is that we have to understand that NOBODY did or will earn a penny trying to sell such device (invention). It is like selling freedom...
Please, wake up.
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I have watched recently (again) the video lecture that Donald Smith gave in 1996 at a Tesla Symposium and let me tell you a little story about it:
From my understanding, he succeeded the best in replicating what Tesla meant by high-voltage, high-frequency machines (although Smith never admitted he knew about Tesla works - hmm...). 14 years went by from that lecture and a few of his statements made with that occasion are still ringing in my head:
- "the car industry is dead and they don't even know it"
- "in one year there will be only electric cars"
- "I don't deal for peanuts, I only talk with presidents, emperors, sheiks, etc"
- "the entry ticket is from $500 million up to 1,000 times more"
- "the suitcase I have there is not for sale and if you think getting closer to it, you might not be able to leave this room"
At one time, a young man asked: "do you think Tesla would think more about money ?" and Smith answered "I do this to have enough capital and to be sure that nobody will suppress MY invention" but then the young man asked "but why don't you share IN FULL your knowledge on the Internet ? this way 'they' won't be able to shut down anything" and again Smith answered "go look on the Internet, the plans are already there and consider this presentation as a gift to you", and I could continue with more bitter-aggressive remarks from Smith...
So what have I learned from this story, which sadly is true ?
When greed for money and power are greater than inventor's moral, he is doomed to bite the dust and live the consequences of not sharing his knowledge with mankind. I must stress it, disclosure IN FULL, because wherever you search, you find only scarce half truth made in the name of a secrecy that will bankrupt the owner again and again.
I hope to live the day (I'm only 46) when some brilliant guy will have an ego to match the greatness of a solid state free energy device invention, because otherwise we will be forever slaves for an army of Rothschilds and other good ol' boys with an oil well in the backyard...
It is not all about how many turns has that coil or how many Farads that capacitor... it is about the moral fabric you got. You may be a mighty eagle or you may become a poor old man born in Texas whose hands are trembling from Parkinson, that hardly finds his words and who gave a lecture back in '96 at a Tesla Symposium and never worked for peanuts...
It's up to you.
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Tesla of course. He didn't die rich. He could have. Morgan and GE owed him so much per Horse power. He didn't deserve to be called nuts. They convinced him he would destroy the country if he collected. A lie because he would have only destroyed Morgan and GE if he collected. Well he didn't want his inventions used for war. I liked him.