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masster

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A Morality Issue Poll
« on: July 15, 2010, 03:51:07 PM »
Please fill in this questionnaire and while selecting your answer think about your favorite legendary free energy inventor and/or scientist and ask yourself in which category he belongs. Maybe we will learn something from this poll and figure out why are we still NOT using "free energy"...
« Last Edit: July 16, 2010, 03:11:46 AM by masster »

XS-NRG

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2010, 10:08:40 PM »
Come on people!

I think it's a good poll and i like to see some results  :)
Please vote.

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 10:13:53 AM »
Thank you for your support.
One of the reasons I made this poll is that it would be interesting to see what is the moral fabric of our inventors to be.

But on the other hand, I would like to know your opinion about these other related issues:
- why not even one inventor from the past didn't share his FE device full plans with humankind ?
- why not even one alive inventor isn't willing to share it either ?

Because we are talking about an invention that would change our lives for ever and hopefully for the good...

b0rg13

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 10:29:02 AM »
it probably just comes down to greed in the end, seems like $$$$ wins.

for eg there is a new thread in here about a mag wheel and this guy is asking the viewers to help him and tell him why it wont work and show him how it might, and in all his drawings he has plastered a BIG FAT copy write, and this is an open forum ?

... well F*** him.

peace.

ps i have not voted yet, but i would think id plaster a working something all over the net just to f*** off the TBTB and let every one finally be free of the bullshit, its that simple for me.

masster

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2010, 04:34:59 PM »
I know exactly how you feel.
But let's not waste our energy on a single anonymous guy.
Let's ask ourselves about past legends: and I will start with Nikola Tesla.
Without minimizing his merits on several fields of electromagnetism, I will always ask myself why he didn't make public his blueprints for a practical FE device. If all those stories about that magic box with rods and lamps are true, where is the patent ? Where are those who witnessed his demonstration and carefully examined his device ? And let me assure you that I would like to be all true, but when no information was left as legacy to humankind, I personally have to see his moral fitting in 2 or 3 sections of my poll...

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2010, 05:05:53 PM »
If you start with Tesla you are already much too late.
It goes way, way back further.

There are even reports about egypt gas discharge tubes!!!
Carved into the walls.


gauschor

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2010, 05:15:46 PM »
But on the other hand, I would like to know your opinion about these other related issues:
- why not even one inventor from the past didn't share his FE device full plans with humankind ?
- why not even one alive inventor isn't willing to share it either ?

You ask the questions in a wrong way, because it's not about sharing only.

* There are inventions which are too dangerous for daily purpose e.g. let's imagine the Schauberger Repulsine or Mazenauer Rotor works as being written in the old articles and which will accelerate on their own (and therefore deliver free energy) if they reach 20.000+ rpm. Now, how do you want to put such a thing into a car? Can someone take responsibility for the amount of danger such a device causes? No. Both were hard to control and completely ripped apart back then. Not to talk about the noise it produced...
* People and infrastructure need energy out of the box. They need to cook, work on computers, store food, surgical robots, hospitals, industrial machinery, vehices all these things need reliable electricity. What many people don't realize is, that a huge amount of inventions (from my investigation) does not meet these requirements.
* Some inventions seem to provide more energy (e.g. Joulethief based circuits), however break in as soon as a motor is attached. Now what can you do with it but power some LEDs? Nothing. You cannot even use a power drill or a toymotor with it. Therefore insufficient.
* I have high respect for Tesla but I think there is another reason besides greed back then, why his energy transmitter has not been asserted. Did you ever have problems with Wireless LAN, receiving radio stations etc. during rain and thunderstorms or because too many people accessed the source? Now that is the reason why you can't put on a power transmitter and say: "everyone gets electricity via air"

It's all about reliability, daily use, energy on demand.

Aside from many fraud-inventions there are only a few exceptions which are in my opinion: Tesla cold electricity, Edwin Gray, Baumanns Thestatika - All of them would have needed the internet...

TechStuf

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2010, 06:28:09 PM »
http://www.rense.com/general62/list.htm

http://sbeckow.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/what-happens-to-free-energy-inventors-they-get-killed/

And just a few days ago....

http://changingpower.net/articles/plane-crash-kills-team-who-embraced-game-changing-motor/


Personally, I've received attempts on my life ranging from the ludicrous to the exotic since before I even started sharing free energy ideas... even back when I operated a small corporation, Ballisticorp, which sold CO2 powered dart and arrow launchers to the hunting public.  Since the early days when I first began sharing free energy ideas, the threats have continued, on up through the present day.  These demons are putting to death the children of God, with many thinking they are doing Him a favor.  They love to hit you at your weak spots.  They've threatened even my kids.  Just a few weeks ago, one of my daughters was accosted at a mall and sexually assaulted by one of their many 'disposable' minions who just got out of jail.  Last week, my disadvantaged sister was at a local pub, drinking with strangers who kept buying her drinks....My mother found her 46yr old first born daughter, dead on her apartment floor the next day.  About a year ago, some of these minions attempted to abduct my brother, pulling up to his place of work in a van (in a rural community) right after he closed his shop.  As they jumped out, he jumped back into the shop, locking the door, and called the local police, who verified that the van was reported by others.

I could go on...(and on) but my point is this, it is certainly NOT technology that will free the remnant among mankind that stubbornly remain the children of God.  ALL was foretold long ago.

Many have heard the "David and Goliath" story from ages past, though many doubt the veracity of the account.  Certainly it's a romantic notion to picture a modern day "david" standing against the great hydra headed beast, and in his sling, a free energy device of somekind....but who are we kidding?

The "goliath" of our day, already has "free energy" (and commensurate weapons) which it has stolen from well meaning and gifted researchers going back for many years now.  And hey, personally, I'd love to go to bat for you guys and square off with these bastards with my trusty sling (lol):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCi06GGYEok

But I know for sure and for certain that He Who is soon in coming, will serve up Justice in a way we cannot fathom, much less fully appreciate.  I also am fully aware of the fact that I'd not have made it nearly this long without the Hand of God over me and my family.

I know it.

they know it.

And now, some of you know it as well.


Don't wait for our atmosphere to be 'peeled back like a scroll' upon arrival of Christ Yeshua in the heavens, with His Angelic army, to cry out His Name.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQh1cjZLmUo


Blessings in Christ Yeshua!



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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2010, 07:27:34 PM »
If you have real usable invention (considering the daily requirements I've mentioned!) - but hesitate to spread it freely, it's your own fault. People should have learned from events (e.g. killings) in the past to behave in a way that will not face these consequences. And the only way to do this, is to spread the invention faster than the information who has spread it, is public. And this is possible easily. You can even make a vacation in another country, take your docs on an USB stick with you and then post it from there at a random internet café. If nowadays an invention does not reach public its because either its too complicated, too dangerous, not efficient overall, or out of ignorance and greed.

Who wants to threaten you, if the whole world has all your docs? The so-called "bad guys" could kill 1 single person (if they can find out who sent the file on the first place), but the effort of any killing would be pointless if the whole world already had these docs. And if you spred your full docs on multiple forums, newsgroups and whatever the internet has to offer, nobody could stop this breakthrough. So please spare me the stories that this is not possible and everything is suppressed.

I agree that it was much easier to suppress dozens of years ago, because there was no online platform which supported audio/video/docs etc... but nowadays? Utter nonsense.

Edit: you know, if people claim they have this super invention, profile themselves on how great they are, most likely also identifying themselves by name and place of living - and then suddenly wonder some "strange people" visit them - I must really wonder how ignorant these people are. I mean they could have counted 1+1 (regarding suppression history) that this way of promotion will not turn out happily.

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2010, 09:49:46 PM »
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So please spare me the stories that this is not possible and everything is suppressed.

Quite right.  Especially the last part.  Not everything IS suppressed.  I for one, am quite certain that successful free energy ideas have been shared.  Of course, TPTB have now amassed so much power that they are often content to wait until an individual or group actually tries to do anything with such ideas, before dropping the boot heel.

Many fail to realize that our world is so far upside down, (sideways at least) that many have learned to absolutely revel in it that way.  And any attempt to right it literally means W-A-R.  And on every front that matters.

Nothing less than that will affect lasting meaningful change, regardless of idealogy.  No, the totem of 'free energy', if it were to be allowed to proliferate, would at this late date only come as a hollow savior to emptied souls. 

I say, simply, that since we are so close to the end of the age of mankind, as revealed by what was written so long ago which perfectly matches to the situation at hand....

To let each of us place our Faith in whom it may best be found, and may the True Savior and His Army win.


At the present rate of degradation and corruption, We'll know soon enough, though too late for many.



Blessings in Christ Yeshua
« Last Edit: July 19, 2010, 10:38:25 PM by TechStuf »

masster

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2010, 01:47:26 AM »
@Techstuf
please, let's keep comments to the topic: morality in sharing a revolutionary invention.
your comments are useful till you get to the point where you involve a religious rhetoric propaganda which is just trolling this topic.
so again, solve your family issues, clear your mind, and then we are waiting your more-to-the-topic opinions.

TechStuf

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2010, 03:51:04 AM »
Leave it to a noob with a user name like "masster" to overestimate himself on the topic.  Spoken like a true creative.  ::)

Little does he know that ALL is religion.  A man "believes" a thing is not so right up until it is, and vice versa.   ALL is belief, and it is the strength and accuracy of beliefs that helps determine our reality.  One man's savior is another's devil incarnate....such is the social morass of this late hour.

Oh, and last time I checked, "morality" (yes, even the transient kind so in vogue today) covers a great swath of ideologies and belief systems.

Sounds like you've been reading too much of Pike's "morals and dogma", there 'masster'.

And speaking of revolutionary inventions....


http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html

http://www.henrymakow.com/obama_a_president_for_freemaso.html

http://www.hornes.org/theologia/mark-horne/what-is-the-worth-of-666-talents-of-gold


To speak of the morality of sharing free energy while refusing to consider the truth regarding what the independent inventor is truly up against is lamentably naive...or worse.  In all too many instances today, it's often worse.  Obviously, your sense of morality is quite limited, as you seem unaware of the world wide spiritual knife fight taking place before your eyes.  Morality is a broad topic, and I'll not exclude such information as I deem critical to such, no matter the venue.  Such is the fight between Good and evil...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dOOFB8fs38


I'll leave the propaganda to the so called "worshipful"  ::) 'massters'  :o among us.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs


At any rate, Yahweh bless you and your associates in Christ Yeshua,



:'(



TS

masster

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2010, 12:17:36 PM »
Leave it to a noob with a user name like "masster" to overestimate himself on the topic.
probably too much blessings kept your attention away from a simple fact: I created this topic.
as for my username, you have not even a clue what the acronym stands for.
so let's keep a scientific language in here without trolling and flaming.
we have smart users prepared to talk to the topic. don't try monopolize it.
blessings.

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2010, 05:49:39 PM »
I feel on the one side you have 99,9% of the folks that want to share but they have nothing to share.
They often do not realize the danger involved.
Why would you put your life at stake if you can silently use it for the rest of your life?
This planet is going down anyway.

On the other side there is the 0,1% that has someting working but they do not know what to do....
They do know it's almost impossible to get rich from it.
Or somebody else will take it and claim it as his invention.

They are often affraid, they want to share but are affraid they will be stopped, not the technology but they are affraid "they" will hurt them.
And on the other hand they think, i have build this for myself, so i won't freeze in the winter,i will keep this and nobody needs to know ,fuck the rest of the world it was my own hard work, they don't deserve it.
Then some other moment they want to share but then time after time they decide not to because time after time there are other people who say stupid things to them because these people do not know they are with the 0.1% so then the inventor thinks i will just keep it and only share it with my friends.

And then there is the stream of fakers and dis-info agents who never stop adding scams to the device pool and etc.
These people belong to the 99,9% but want to, they pretend to be with the 0,1%

I dunno, it's kinda complicated... :-\

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Re: A Morality Issue Poll
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2010, 08:00:50 PM »
I am glad you brought up your thoughts.
talking about these issues is better than keeping all bottled inside.
and I agree that fear can be a factor in this equation.
we all have after all a deep instinctual brain: "the flee or fight" one.
soon we will have to fight against our fears cleverly nourished by media.
and when sufficient people will get to the "ignition point" and remember they have a mission in life, they will stand up, they will create and they will share.
I believe those men will forever be remembered and honored for getting us free from poverty and energy slavery. and I think this is worth dying for...