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Author Topic: Joule Thief 101  (Read 944195 times)

Johan_1955

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2070 on: April 18, 2016, 01:05:34 PM »
Quote from: MileHigh on April 07, 2016, 03:58:32 PM
Chet you are not even at the table, you are calling some new fake-ass nutcase that wants to suck money from gullible people.

Again half information, who is blaming who?

Who are you calling here, speak out and prove solid you're point or you're proven a nickname chicken.
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Johan_1955

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2071 on: April 18, 2016, 01:15:23 PM »
Quote from: tinman on April 07, 2016, 03:59:52 PM
@ MH

As requested.

https://www.google.ch/patents/US4969425

This patent is accepted, also by nicky?? Grumage, will not say what I think, but you should? ???

A second cavity in the combustion camber, beside the Sqaush-band combined with LeanBurn / HOT wil create a not wanted second fire / detonation, and EAT in short time the piston roof, creating a hole in the AluCap from ...............

Proof mostly Japan bikes: GT 380 / 550 3 cilinders, why are the motorheads so quit here, EE illuminatie indoctrination?
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Johan_1955

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2072 on: April 18, 2016, 01:31:35 PM »
Quote from: minnie on April 11, 2016, 03:59:42 PM

 You can never really trust anything. We've got a new saw,Stihl 4mix, it runs on
 2stroke mix and sounds like a 4stroke....who'd a thought it?

Knowing the stupid thing, John, did you purchase it?, and voluntarily?

Where is knowledge so called payed science, 2-Stroke MIX in a more heavy 4-Stroke and that in CO2 times, this is what KIDS should not read, this is ................ as looking for love in red-light district!!!

http://www.stihl.com/4-mix-engine-lightweight-and-with-good-lugging-power.aspx
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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2073 on: April 18, 2016, 01:44:48 PM »
Quote from: Johan_1955 on April 18, 2016, 01:05:34 PM
Again half information, who is blaming who?

Who are you calling here, speak out and prove solid you're point or you're proven a nickname chicken.
I am blaming YOU.

Johan, you should apologize to me and to everyone on this forum for your absolutely disgusting behaviour.  You have some nerve posting that picture and trying to make a comparison to me.

You are disgusting and you should apologize.

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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2074 on: April 18, 2016, 01:53:46 PM »
Brad:

I am no liar.

Just get off your butt and deliver the goods.

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I cannot determine the winding direction of the primary winding of the transformer,as it is taped and lacquered,and the wire very fine. Guess i could use a compass and DC current to work it out.

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Also remember the secondary winding is on top of the primary winding--not along side it as with a normal E core type transformer. So in this case,at the 8.46 minute mark,the yellow trace is actually leading the blue trace,as it was lagging at the start without the magnet in play,and thus show's the 90* phase shift as expected.

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Johan_1955

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2075 on: April 18, 2016, 02:15:27 PM »
Quote from: MileHigh on April 18, 2016, 01:44:48 PM
I am blaming YOU.Johan, you should apologize to me and to everyone on this forum for your absolutely disgusting behaviour.  You have some nerve posting that picture and trying to make a comparison to me.You are disgusting and you should apologize.

The info was all over TV, opensource, so sue the Royal-BBC also?

Will spell it for you dear:

Its not in a way meant comprising to you, no idea who you are, so how could I or where did I write it?

It was a plane test, how you are looking / observing to supplied information, what you did make you're self out of it, maybe insecure, or your finger-print style, but that connection is in you're own head, can't do that only you.

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But after the half informed Churchill pic, did we give you this as a Test-Case, to see how you gather out of the presented your ............. own soup.

Its the hole bunch of slaves around HIM, keeping it secret, meaning thousand of Lickers keeping it secret while HE could go on, for many years and thousand of our KIDS and loving Parents involved!

So proven not only Church, but maybe on every level its going on, this when the people, collages are keeping quit out of chicken fear, and those type's are going on with our KIDS, its all about whats around people with power, and CAN continuous because of ....................... ?

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For now to the circuit again, hole weekend also with Electro. But you're original reaction from you about "Money sucking", thanks, but later!

Maybe a bit more clear, incase of other doubts ask, please: PM or what ever!!

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tinman

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2076 on: April 18, 2016, 02:39:30 PM »
@ Poynt and all.

I will be shifting my experiments to the mechanical resonance thread,as it is nothing to do with a JT-as this thread was intended for.

Tonight i have confirmed that the bulk(close to all)of the current through the secondary winding is being produced by the oscillating magnet.
All of the work on this experiment will now be posted there.



Brad.
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tinman

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2077 on: April 18, 2016, 02:55:00 PM »
Quote from: MileHigh on April 18, 2016, 01:53:46 PM
Brad:

I am no liar.

Just get off your butt and deliver the goods.

? ? ?

? ? ?

How about you get of your ass,and do something useful for a change.

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You are disgusting and you should apologize.

Like you did to me? after your vulgar statements toward me.

Your pathetic MH--you really are.

Oh,and by the way--you were wrong with your resonant wine glass saga.

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How is the resonant frequency of a wine glass determined?

The resonant frequency of a wine glass is determined by a combination of the effective moving mass of the glass and the effective stiffness of the glass interacting with each other.  The higher the effective moving mass of the glass, the lower the resonant frequency.  The higher the effective stiffness the glass, the higher the resonant frequency.

Sorry,but that is wrong.
That is !!what! determines the resonant frequency of the wine glass--not how.
How you determine something, is by measuring it-ascertain or establish exactly by research or calculation.
So,your answer is !!what!! determines the resonant frequency of the wine glass-->not how.
How is-
How is the length of a piece of wood determined
How is the weight of a bowling ball determined.

Yes,thats right--that means you screwed up your top speed of a car rubbish as well,as it should have been !what! determines the top speed of a car--not how is it determined.

You should go to English school MH.
Big fail.


Brad
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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2078 on: April 18, 2016, 07:11:19 PM »
Quote from: Johan_1955 on April 18, 2016, 02:15:27 PM
The info was all over TV, opensource, so sue the Royal-BBC also?

Will spell it for you dear:

Its not in a way meant comprising to you, no idea who you are, so how could I or where did I write it?

It was a plane test, how you are looking / observing to supplied information, what you did make you're self out of it, maybe insecure, or your finger-print style, but that connection is in you're own head, can't do that only you.

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But after the half informed Churchill pic, did we give you this as a Test-Case, to see how you gather out of the presented your ............. own soup.

Its the hole bunch of slaves around HIM, keeping it secret, meaning thousand of Lickers keeping it secret while HE could go on, for many years and thousand of our KIDS and loving Parents involved!

So proven not only Church, but maybe on every level its going on, this when the people, collages are keeping quit out of chicken fear, and those type's are going on with our KIDS, its all about whats around people with power, and CAN continuous because of ....................... ?

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For now to the circuit again, hole weekend also with Electro. But you're original reaction from you about "Money sucking", thanks, but later!

Maybe a bit more clear, incase of other doubts ask, please: PM or what ever!!

It is obvious that English is not your first language.  Nonetheless, you say many strange things that are somewhat confusing.

But this is not confusing and you understand my message to you:  Your behaviour was disgusting and you should apologize.
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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2079 on: April 18, 2016, 07:26:37 PM »
Brad:

You were just as vulgar towards me in your own way and I did not use "extra naughty" words.  Don't play the victim.  If I did to you what Johan_1955 did to me you would be freaking out and the usual commentators would be up in arms and freaking out themselves.  Witness the hypocrisy in action.

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How about you get of your ass,and do something useful for a change.

From this point on use the dot convention and draw up a schematic and you will be doing something useful.

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Sorry,but that is wrong.
That is !!what! determines the resonant frequency of the wine glass--not how.
How you determine something, is by measuring it-ascertain or establish exactly by research or calculation.
So,your answer is !!what!! determines the resonant frequency of the wine glass-->not how.
How is-
How is the length of a piece of wood determined
How is the weight of a bowling ball determined.

Yes,thats right--that means you screwed up your top speed of a car rubbish as well,as it should have been !what! determines the top speed of a car--not how is it determined.

Are you trying to tell us you can't understand these two sentences, "How is the resonant frequency of a wine glass determined?" and "The resonant frequency of a wine glass is determined by two factors."  You have comprehension difficulties with the meaning of those two sentences?

The truth is you don't have any difficulties understanding those two sentences and therefore your whole pitch above is silly and moot.

However, your issues with the English language are well known and well documented and all that you do above is confirm the issues once again.  The reason it is an issue is that it bleeds over from normal conversation into your technical descriptions.  I couldn't really care less about the normal conversation, but when you discuss your technical presentation and the people reading have to compensate all the time it gets annoying.  Especially when there is no clear path out of an ambiguity or something critical is completely missing.  Seemingly, you don't want to put any effort into using the dot convention, drawing up proper schematics, and describing your setup and what you are doing in a coherent, comprehensible, and complete way.  You need to work on all of that to present yourself properly to your peers.

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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2080 on: April 18, 2016, 07:58:53 PM »
Brad,

For the record, I will review your last attempt at answering the two wine glass questions in your posting #1696.

How is the resonant frequency of a wine glass determined?

Answer:  "The resonant frequency of a wine glass is determined by the shape,size,and structure of the glass.
We can find out what the resonant frequency is by vibrating the glass using sound waves and raising the frequency of those sound waves until the vibrations of the wine glass reach a maximum amplitude."

>>> You are wrong because you did not identify the two parameters that determine the resonant frequency, the effective mass and the effective stiffness.  The second part of your answer is just silly, describing how to test for the resonant frequency by trial and error.  You are expected to have an innate understanding and the intellectual prowess to know that the question is not looking for that type of "answer."

How does a wine glass resonate, what is the mechanism?

Answer:  "It resonates due to the deformation and reformation  of the wine glass from it's rest shape,where the resonant frequency of this deformation and reformation is determined by the shape,size and structure of the wine glass. This causes pressure wave's that can be heard-->sound waves."

>>> You are wrong because you make no mention of the energy cycling back and forth between kinetic and potential energy where the kinetic energy is in the form of the moving effective mass of the glass and the potential energy is in the form of the glass acting like a compressed spring.  You aren't even close.

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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2081 on: April 18, 2016, 11:38:57 PM »
Webby:

The wine glass _is_ the resonating system.

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In physics, resonance describes when a vibrating system or external force drives another system to oscillate with greater amplitude at a specific preferential frequency.

All that quote does is describe a property of a resonating system, that being that it will oscillate at a higher amplitude when stimulated at its natural resonant frequency by an external source.  It's to help you identify a resonant system.

What that quote does not do is describe the mechanism for how the resonance actually works or how the resonant frequency is determined.

MileHigh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance
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MileHigh

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2082 on: April 18, 2016, 11:59:11 PM »
No, there is no external system, or external force.  It is not within the definition of resonance and it is not a required part of the answer.

You have seen video of skyscrapers oscillating back and forth after an earthquake.  The skyscrapers are resonating.  I think we have seen that a few times from earthquake events in Japan over the past 20 years.

How does a skyscraper resonate, what is the mechanism?
How is the resonant frequency of a skyscraper determined?

Give it a shot.  You don't have to say an earthquake has to happen first, I assure you.

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tinman

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2083 on: April 19, 2016, 01:18:45 AM »
 author=MileHigh link=topic=8341.msg481255#msg481255 date=1461000397]






MileHigh

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http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/healthy-eating/a10847/body-weight/
Quote: What determines my weight?
There are a number of factors that contribute towards your weight:
hereditary factors
hormonal abnormalities
lack of exercise
diet
lifestyle.

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=16494.0
Quote: Iron is a lot heavier than, say, lithium. But what determines its weight? Is it purely the number or nucleons, or does how closely packed the atoms are also have a bearing?

How is the weight of an object determined
Quote wikipedia: Typically, in measuring an object's weight, the object is placed on scales at rest with respect to the earth.
https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/packaging/dim_weight.html
Use a scale to determine the weight of the package.

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Are you trying to tell us you can't understand these two sentences, "How is the resonant frequency of a wine glass determined?" and "The resonant frequency of a wine glass is determined by two factors."  You have comprehension difficulties with the meaning of those two sentences?

No,it is !what! determines the resonant frequency--not !how! is the resonant frequency determined.

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However, your issues with the English language are well known and well documented and all that you do above is confirm the issues once again.

Reading the last few pages,it would seem that you think many people have trouble with the English language,but it looks like it is you MH that has the problem here.

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You were just as vulgar towards me in your own way

Another lie.

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From this point on use the dot convention and draw up a schematic and you will be doing something useful.

From this point on,i will do what i like,and if you dont like it--to bad :D


Brad
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tinman

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Re: Joule Thief 101
« Reply #2084 on: April 19, 2016, 01:26:07 AM »
Quote from: MileHigh on April 18, 2016, 11:38:57 PM
Webby:



All that quote does is describe a property of a resonating system, that being that it will oscillate at a higher amplitude when stimulated at its natural resonant frequency by an external source.  It's to help you identify a resonant system.



MileHigh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance

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The wine glass _is_ the resonating system.

The wine glass is 1/2 of the resonating system.
Without the other half of the system,there is no resonance.

What that quote does not do is describe the mechanism for how the resonance actually works or how the resonant frequency is determined.

I have corrected the above sentence so as it is correct.
What that quote does not do is describe the mechanism for how the resonance actually works or what determines the resonant frequency.

Brad
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