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Offline Mannix

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #180 on: October 17, 2009, 06:06:54 AM »
Hi all,

This may be off topic ..but I do break out in song at times!

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=345


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Re: Steven Marks secret
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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #181 on: October 17, 2009, 10:45:29 AM »
Yes, most all FETs have a very fast internal avalanche diode to prevent excess source-gate potentials developing and thus ruining the junction.

I thought for a long time that these internal diodes hindered OU research and actually set about trying to blow that diode without damaging the switch junction. I was unsuccesful in those efforts and ruined 4 FETs.

But what I have discovered since is one way to bypass that internal diode without slowing the switch down noticeably. Taking advantage of it being an avalanche device, simply use another avalalanche diode (source to drain) with lower passing voltage outside of the FET package, the leads much be kept short if you select a passing voltage only slightly lower than the internal diode. This diode can pump a collection cap or energize another coil allowing full harvesting of BEMF.


Yes, this is what I used. Except accidentally I used bi-directional transient voltage suppression diode 1.5KE300CA .

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #182 on: October 17, 2009, 05:21:51 PM »
part 1 of 2

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #183 on: October 17, 2009, 05:22:40 PM »

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #184 on: October 17, 2009, 10:58:59 PM »
@GK

Here is my current set-up but no results with this one...it's probably the fact that I don't have the 2 turns up and 2 turns deep.  My driving circuit is ~530hz and the MOSFET I'm using is a IRF510A, the diodes are 1N4007...maybe too high??? Tomorrow I will make a new coil like yours but do you have any suggestions?

Thanks...Stew

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #185 on: October 18, 2009, 02:38:53 AM »
@wings

    Nice link.   What I found most interesting is that the torroidal magnetic field is concentrated as sheaths along the inside and outside of the solenoidal winding.  The magnetic field lines inside and on the surface of the torroid are disconnected from the ambient magnetic field.  There are no poles yet there is a magnetic irregularity to the field the torroid resides in.  This space is unique and creates an energy density relativity to the rest of the ambient field.  It is just not displacing or bending the amf it has it's own thing going on.  The second ordering of the ambient magnetic field or propogated magnetic field is what one would expect from a ring current or coil but may be serveral orders of magnitude greater than what could be generated with just a loop current.  (SM refers to a very large generated magnetic field also)  The energy density inside the torroid is insulated by the magnetic sheaths.  This same phenomenon occurs in the near field of a Tesla coil driven at resonance.  The Tesla coil creates an insulated energy density field by creating standing waves within the confines of the resonant circuit.  The circuit itself is not lumped components but incorporates the capacitance and inductance needed to reach resonance in the field of the coils themselves.  Not unlike a piece of coax driven so as to maximize reflection of the signal and minimize radiation or a spherical standing wave field we call an atom.  Somehow nature knows how much potential to radiate emwave energy there is and where it is and conveys this information without any velocity limits.  I believe we call standing waves mass/energy nowadays and the information gravity.

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #186 on: October 18, 2009, 04:17:08 AM »
It would be easier to support what is instructed. Otherwise the operating parameters are totally different.

@GK

Here is my current set-up but no results with this one...it's probably the fact that I don't have the 2 turns up and 2 turns deep.  My driving circuit is ~530hz and the MOSFET I'm using is a IRF510A, the diodes are 1N4007...maybe too high??? Tomorrow I will make a new coil like yours but do you have any suggestions?

Thanks...Stew

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #187 on: October 18, 2009, 07:23:58 AM »
@wings

    Nice link.   What I found most interesting is that the torroidal magnetic field is concentrated as sheaths along the inside and outside of the solenoidal winding.  The magnetic field lines inside and on the surface of the torroid are disconnected from the ambient magnetic field.  There are no poles yet there is a magnetic irregularity to the field the torroid resides in.  This space is unique and creates an energy density relativity to the rest of the ambient field.  It is just not displacing or bending the amf it has it's own thing going on.  The second ordering of the ambient magnetic field or propogated magnetic field is what one would expect from a ring current or coil but may be serveral orders of magnitude greater than what could be generated with just a loop current.  (SM refers to a very large generated magnetic field also)  The energy density inside the torroid is insulated by the magnetic sheaths.  This same phenomenon occurs in the near field of a Tesla coil driven at resonance.  The Tesla coil creates an insulated energy density field by creating standing waves within the confines of the resonant circuit.  The circuit itself is not lumped components but incorporates the capacitance and inductance needed to reach resonance in the field of the coils themselves.  Not unlike a piece of coax driven so as to maximize reflection of the signal and minimize radiation or a spherical standing wave field we call an atom.  Somehow nature knows how much potential to radiate emwave energy there is and where it is and conveys this information without any velocity limits.  I believe we call standing waves mass/energy nowadays and the information gravity.

I miss this part of the file sorry


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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #188 on: October 18, 2009, 02:14:40 PM »
It would be easier to support what is instructed. Otherwise the operating parameters are totally different.

Can you PM me more specifics on what is supported!

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Re: Steven Marks secret
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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #189 on: October 18, 2009, 03:27:29 PM »
This is a 3 layer....3 high and 2 deep!  Is this how your double is wound?  Notice the front in how I overlapped, is this correct?

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« Reply #190 on: October 18, 2009, 10:40:33 PM »
  A coil of high self inductance induces voltage in the next turn each turn acting as a transformer primary and secondary.
The voltage through the coil is impeded but not the magnetic induction from turn to turn.  There is created a magnetic field compression that moves from turn to turn.  Tesla would wrap a two turn primary around the midsection of his transformers.  Induction into the secondary would occur on a one to one ratio in the portion of the secondary influenced by the primary winding.  The induced highvoltage due to the rapid change in the core of the input winding would totally impede normal current through the primary winding.  But the rapid change of the magnetic field compression around the central secondary turns would result in a moving magnetic field compression as induction occured in opposing directions from turn to turn in the secondary.  As the moving magnetic field compression reaches the termination coils it begins to back induce.  Or echo the input event.   For each input pulse a great number of magnetic field compression reflections occur.  The magnetic field compression running to the end of the transformer and then returning to the center.  By changing the geometry of the secondary he could vary the induced voltage from turn to turn to either magnify or focus the input event.  SM seems to move the magnetic compression around in a circle.  Perhaps there is the collector winding which gets squeezed at a frequency determined by the time it takes for the winding of highself induction to induce the squeeze around the torroid.  This would of course require a third winding as an input winding.  This winding acts as the input winding on a Tesla transformer.  Then there is the winding of high selfinduction and then the collector winding inside the core.

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #191 on: October 19, 2009, 03:08:34 PM »
@All

OK, I'll put this here to give you brainstorming guys some more meat on the plate. Well at least a few ribs. lol

As you know I have been concentrating lately on the FTPU, design, components, etc. I also took a census of the FTPU video and took down the frame numbers at which a voltage reading change occurs during the demo. Also, I got my son to purchase that manual of SM's Meter which is a Micronta Model 22-175 sold by Radio Shack in the early 90s.

Using my VirtualDubMod program, my SM video named VTS_01_2.VOB has a total of 28515 frames. The FTPU portion of the video starts at frame 1611 to end at frame 9309.

While I do not have the manual in hand yet, I can at least confirm that during the whole FTPU demo, SM never touched the Volts/Amps button (3rd row 2nd button) of his meter, so we can at least say that all readings were Volts. He basically played with the voltage range button. When the meter shows a number 3, I am confident to say it is simply because the meter is out of range, so he chooses a range that would give that reading on purpose so as not to show the total voltage rise on the demo. He never showed in any of his videos a total voltage reading progression and always connected the meter probes way after he actually started the devices. Smart guy. But the FTPU demo does give use some insight and I think I have a good understanding now of the devices power levels which I will summarize further down.

The following are the main events in the FTPU video along with the frame number and any voltage value seen on the voltage meter. So each time the voltage changed on the meter, it should be listed herein. lol What a pastime. Sleuthing the TPUs.

3063 SM places the volt meter on the pacl of VCRs in that Stereo warehouse. He pushes the power on button.
4940 SM Makes the meter connections to the FTPU output wires, left one comes from the top and bottom disk control coil and is then both going to the negative probe of the meter. The right output wire is the positive going to the top disk. Meter reads 3.
4972 Meter changes to 33.56 as he continues to make the positive connection.
5010 Meter reads 33.45
5046 Meter reads 33.37
5096 Meter reads -004
5120 Meter reads -005
5165 Meter reads -051 His hands leave the FTPU output and go to the meter.
5205 Meter reads 67.9
5230 Meter reads 12.77 (This is a significant number because it held for quite a time - 28 frames).
5258 Meter reads 20.11 as he moves the meter angle and blinds the video. Ouch.
5284 Meter reads 27.12
5310 Meter reads 27.12
5328 Meter reads 3 right after SM pushes the 2nd row 2nd button for the 1st time.
5367 Meter reads 44.5 right after SM pushes the 3rd row 4th button for the 1st time.
5325 Meter reads 49.6
5337 Meter reads 52.1 right after SM pushes the 2nd row 2nd button for the 2nd time.
5449 Meter reads 3  right after SM pushes the 2nd row 2nd button for the 3rd time.
During the whole demo, SM did not touch the 3rd row 2nd button which is the Volts/Amps button. This means all readings where always shown as Volts (AC or DC is to be determined).
You can tell by all this button pushing that SM did not want to show the progression of the voltage increase readings as the FTPU started up. He pushes the 2nd row 2nd button for the 3rd time putting that stable number 3 on the screen while he buys time for the FTPU to wind up by placing the magnet, giving the magnet some meaning.
We can however at this point understand that the FTPU was already putting out a steady 52 volts at 5337. This was before any magnet was added. More on that later.
5850 Meter reads 3 - SM places the magnet onto the two terminals and removes hands.
5985 Meter reads 3 - Fiddles with the output wires. He's stalling for time for the FTPU to wind up even more now with the magnet.
6043 Meter reads 3 (with small letters added) - right after SM pushes the 2nd row 3rd button for the 1st time.
6050 Meter reads 3 (with small letters move right) - right after SM pushes the 2nd row 3rd button for the 2nd time.
6086 Meter reads 64.7 - right after SM pushes the 2nd row 2nd button for the 4th time.
6114 Meter reads 63.3 - right after SM pushes the 2nd row 2nd button for the 5th time.
6115 Meter reads 63.3 - SM now removes his hand away from the meter.
6136 Meter reads 62.7
6162 Meter reads 62.4
6188 Meter reads 62.3
6211 Meter reads 62.1
6236 Meter reads 62.0
6286 Meter reads 61.9
6342 Meter reads 61.8
6408 Meter reads 61.7
6512 Meter reads 61.7 - as SM remove the magnet.
6536 Meter reads 61.6
6563 Meter reads 61.5
6589 Meter reads 61.4
6616 Meter reads 61.3
6639 Meter reads 61.2
6659 Meter reads 61.1
6689 Meter reads 61.0
6710 Meter reads 60.9
6735 Meter reads 60.8
6758 Meter reads 60.5
6813 Meter reads 60.4
6834 Meter reads 60.3
6889 Meter reads 60.1
6914 Meter reads 60.0 - as SM put the magnet back in place.
6942 Meter reads 60.9
6965 Meter reads 61.6
7177 Meter reads 61.6 - as SM lifts the FTPU.
7577 Meter reads 61.5 - as SM starts to tilt the FTPU.
7619 Meter reads 61.2 - as SM holds the FTPU upside down.
7686 Meter reads 13.12 - as SM holds the FTPU upside down.
7717 Meter reads 12.75 - as SM holds the FTPU upside down.
7776 Meter reads 13.43 - as SM holds the FTPU upside down.
7803 Meter reads 15.96 - as SM holds the FTPU upside down.
7829 Meter reads 16.70 - as SM holds the FTPU upside down.
7855 Meter reads 16.69 - as SM holds the FTPU upside down.
7864 Meter reads 16.59 - as SM holds the FTPU upside down.
7885 Meter reads 16.47 - as SM starts to tilt the FTPU.
7919 Meter reads 16.27 - as SM starts to tilt the FTPU at vertical.
7923 Meter reads 3 - as SM starts to tilt the FTPU past the vertical position. You think the unit was turned back on or the primary was reconnected and it gave an overload to the meter.
7946 Meter reads 3 - as SM holds the FTPU at the horizontal position about 4 inches above the VCR.
7961 Meter reads 61.7 - as SM holds the FTPU at the horizontal position about 1 inch above the VCR.
7984 Meter reads 61.6 - as the FTPU is back on VCR.
8158 Meter reads 61.5 - as SM waves his hands over the FTPU.
9310 Meter reads 61.5 - as the FTPU demo video ends.

OK, so here is what I can make of this information. One main event was at 5230 when the meter showed 12.77 volts coincides with frame 7717 (12.75 volts) when he holds the FTPU upside down to show the voltage drop. This tells me this is the first level of operation of the FTPU that requires a minimum of 12-14 volts to start her up. Just this information for me puts a great step forward in how to drive the beast.

The second point of interest is at frame 5337 to 5448 where the meter holds steady at 52.1 volts long before SM puts on the magnet. Right after that he pushed another button to block the meter reading at 3 but it stayed long enough at 52.1 volts to understand that the FTPU WITHOUT A MAGNET will produce at least 52.1 volts.

At 5850 he puts the magnet onto the FTPU and stalls for time while the meter is at the overlead reading to give time to the device to increase in voltage (it needs time to warm up) at which time at 6086 he pushes the range botton for a first reading of 64.7. By 6408 the voltage dropped to stabilize at 61.1 volts.

At 6512 he removes the magnet and we see the voltage drop by 0.1 volt increments. He waits until frame 6914 where the voltage goes down to 60.0 before he put the magnet back on. This is interesting because he probably knew that if he waited any longer, the voltage would not drop any further since the unit held its own around 52.1 volts without the magnet, so technically, the FTPU without the magnet produces anywhere between 52.1 and 59.9 volts. He did not want to show this fact because it would take away from the importance of the magnet, so putting the magnet back on at 60 volts is perfect to show the voltage drop magnet effect and to fool you to think it would have eventually dropped to zero volts. Very tricky guy this SM. A Master indeed. lol

So at frame 6914 he puts the magnet back on and the voltage immediately goes up to 61.5 range and holds there until he lifts the FTPU and turns it over by frame 7686 where the voltage immediately drops back to 12-13 volts as when he started it up. Hmmmmmm. Turning it over probably just with a mercury switch again. When he turns it back over at frame 7961, the voltage goes back up to 61.5 range and holds there until the end of the demo.

Question: So why did the voltage now go back up so fast?
One Answer: Because it was already warmed up.

OK what this tells me is that the FTPU works at 12 volts then builds from there, produces on its own 52.1 volts, then produces 61.5 volts with the magnet for a gain of 10 volts with the magnet. Then when he turns it over, it falls back to 12 volts. So there has to be a mercury switch in there that turned in one way before he put on the magnet. The magnet effected a normally closed reed switch that when biased by the magnet created additional havoc across the FTPU for the added gain.


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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #192 on: October 19, 2009, 05:41:37 PM »
Wattsup

Thats some great investigation work!

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #193 on: October 19, 2009, 07:02:31 PM »
wattsup,

I think you are very patient and deserve to find the answer.
In my opinion however ,SM tried to show that FTPU produce this effect only in one direction, probably only up.
What does it mean ? It means device produce flux which mostly resemble magnetic monopole just above device.Because receiver coil is probably one ,when device is diverted from magnetic monopole (turned  down) - receiver do not get any magnetic flux.

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« Reply #194 on: October 19, 2009, 08:22:31 PM »
@forest

I agree I the past even I would have that thought when the TPU is turned over that there is a counter field effect, but we are giving too much to SM and his savvy is more down to Earth then we would want to openly admit. Remove magnet, voltage drop .1 volts increments, turn it over, voltage drops to starting voltage. These are two distinct events with their own cause and effects, but SM wants to use this as a quandry.

There is in his demos a good percentage of required and even obligated deception otherwise he would not have gotten to the stage he did with so many people around him salivating each time they see his device considering it a major money maker. Whatever he could use to distract, he used it. If he found an effect that gave more voltage output with a magnet, why not use it, plus it adds to the show, the mystery, the invented dilemas, etc.

 

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