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Offline otto

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #165 on: October 14, 2009, 07:41:36 AM »
Hello all,

@forest

it doesnt matter, battery or power supply.

The vibration is the same but with the power supply are the signals a little bit more rounded to say so. The best voltage from the power supply is between 9 and 12V.

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Re: Steven Marks secret
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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #166 on: October 14, 2009, 01:36:47 PM »
Hello all

@Chef

from 0Hz to 500kHz I see nice and clean signals. No hash, nothing. Like with tubes but made with SS.

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #167 on: October 14, 2009, 02:23:12 PM »
Otto, thanks for all your posts and ideas.
Just i quick question for some one who has just joined the forum and not had alot of time going through all the threads...
Is there one location on these forums where the plans / blue prints for the Steven Mark SSG can be found?

My brother and I have started designing and building one, but i would like to have ideas and plans from people who have already done the things we are about to tempt

Any help would be sweet, thanks.

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« Reply #167 on: October 14, 2009, 02:23:12 PM »
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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #168 on: October 14, 2009, 02:30:11 PM »
Otto, thanks for all your posts and ideas.
Just i quick question for some one who has just joined the forum and not had alot of time going through all the threads...
Is there one location on these forums where the plans / blue prints for the Steven Mark SSG can be found?

My brother and I have started designing and building one, but i would like to have ideas and plans from people who have already done the things we are about to tempt

Any help would be sweet, thanks.

Malaki

Ill save you some time, no one EVER replicated the tpu, so try with your own theory and build around that.

Best Regards,
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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #169 on: October 14, 2009, 02:38:33 PM »
@IceStrom, thanks for the reply. i will spend the next few hours reading all the threads and try gain as much knowledge as i can, ill post pictures and blue prints of my design etc when its finished...

Thanks again.
Malaki

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #169 on: October 14, 2009, 02:38:33 PM »
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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #170 on: October 14, 2009, 04:07:20 PM »
SM Said:
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It is obvious that most of the people reading the web site and
experimenting know nothing about reading a scope and understanding
what perfect frequency is.

When discussing signal analysis, perfect frequency is perfect sinus. Any waveshape other than sinus contains other frequency sinus components (mixed with the fundamental) and so can not be considered pure (or perfect) frequency.

That is my understanding of the words SM used, although it may not have been what SM was trying to say, perhaps he meant to say that the pulse period and width needed to be absolutely solid with no jitter, to achieve perfect timing.



Being an audio electronics researcher SM probably used these 3 tools for analysis:

[1]
pure white noise injection containing ALL frequencies at equal amplitude within the bandwidth of interest (probably 0...100kHz) Then monitor output for spectral flatness using speccy analyser.

[2]
impulse response of sub systems, stanadard electronic analysis tool, hit a system with an impulse with a rise time as fast as possible. Then watch how intermediate and output stages react using a scope. We all know you hit a real world circuit with an impulse and it will ring, thus revealing resonance points. Interestingly the theoretically "perfect" impulse contains all frequencies DC to light.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impulse_response

[3]
Checking linearity and phase of stages using a reference oscillator (pure sin) and then observing input/output with a scope in X/Y mode.

edit:
One more thought I have had is that perhaps in his Spherics technology he may have tried employing dual coil speakers and mixing the correction signals with the original signals within the speaker itself (magnetic mixing), by mixing at the last possible stage he would minimise the noise floor. Perhaps in this configuration he noticed energetic "sprogs" (unwanted spectral peaks) that exceeded his sum input power?
« Last Edit: October 14, 2009, 05:52:54 PM by Yucca »

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #171 on: October 14, 2009, 04:59:14 PM »
The IRF840 has an internal Zener diode.
Look it up and it showed up here:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://jnaudin.free.fr/spgen/images/irf840.gif&imgrefurl=http://jnaudin.free.fr/spgen/index.htm&h=566&w=654&sz=28&tbnid=eWwNpMKYbPXbpM:&tbnh=119&tbnw=138&prev=/images%3Fq%3DIRF840&usg=__b0F1URwuW_k-fpdjyN7UZViq6xQ=&ei=juLVStqHGojwMaaTrJQD&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=4&ct=image&ved=0CBgQ9QEwAw

Yes I can add another diode facing the opposite way than the internal one.
Your description of rewiring sounds very much like the ECD. Or Tesla's bifilar pancake coil. Pulse goes in from the outside to the inside then back out only to input again. This time into a previously established field.
The BEMF from the feedback burns the pulse drivers.
@GK

In your diagram, what would happen if you put a diode between the D and S of the IRF840 (love them buggers), pointing towards the source for return flyback.

Also, I don't think the control coils (CC) should be in series with the collector ring(s) (CR).

Maybe do one test.

On the S of the IRF840, connect any coil of high inductance (CHI) (could be a toriod transformers secondary wind). You have two rings so connect them in parallel but one side of one ring to the other side of the other ring and same for the two other wires. You will have then two wires for the rings. On the other end of the CHI connect one end of the rings and send the other end of the rings to ground. Connect your CC in parallel and connect to a bulb. Now pulse the CHI/CR and see what the bulb does.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2009, 05:47:09 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #172 on: October 14, 2009, 05:10:40 PM »
see the zener diode in the image at bottom of this page:

http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transistor/tran_7.html

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #173 on: October 14, 2009, 08:54:52 PM »
Maybe the solution is to eliminate mosfet althogether for creating effect and use it only periodically to recreate the effect again after "slowdown of effect" !
From my limited knowledge I would say that internal diode is put into mosfet to eliminate any usage of creating vibration !

Tesla noted that frequency is immaterial and the effect can be produced slow or fast.
My idea : put much faster diode across mosfet then internal one then switch mosfet just slowly (< 1khz) . MOSFET cannot be a source of this effect !

The effect occur when you do "something" at the peak of impulse. For mosfet it's the falling slope of signal and mosfet really cannot do anything at that moment.

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #174 on: October 14, 2009, 09:36:50 PM »
@Yucca,
In regards to your audio post.
After I saw the sparks demo by SM, imagine my surprise when he mentioned 5khz and my measure of the same frequency in a stun gun? What if that is another way of saying 'Look at this other example!'. I have seen the parallels of his speech before.

At that point I thought to myself 'What if he is adding more than there really is?' You know, to obfuscate to keep the technology under some guise of control for what ever reason.
I have hung onto that logic this whole time and it has never failed me in my pursuits. Mainly because I would not be led in too many directions or inferences.

And now that the addition of feedback is status quo the XL controls the tuning of the coil. The dynamic inductance shows up in the ramp up and the bouncing of the harmonics kept in check by the coil specs. It is all mobiused so beautifully. The incoming fluctionations on the gate cause a stream of frequencies in the coil's field. The tuned ones rock the coil and the untuned die out as current. Just like a tank circuit.

So we pump high speed shocks into the coil. As the force/energy settles down it diffuses into the copper of the coils and then we see things as electronics portrays them. Then different frequencies respond to the dynamics of the coils. Some tuned in, some tuned out. The static windings control it all. The supporting circuitry enhances both sets of energy, tuned and untuned. Since the windings are static the rest of the circuitry can remain simple.

The high rise times cause the magnetic field build far away from the copper. This distance is an area we are looking at. Because as that field is there we are impinging upon it again with other harmonics. Very much like the field play in Tesla's bifilar pancake. A field within a field or cannonballs.

Once again I stress this one point. This whole adventure is based on one man's demos. Anybody with electronics knowledge drools over what they see. I saw sparks, he and witnesses stressed vibrations. These are irrefutable, conclusive facts. My contention with other explanations is 'Nobody is pursuing these 2 facts together'. We got talk and maybe some vibrations but where are the sparks? And why are they there? The color is the same as a stun gun's sparks.

This all boils down to 'The copper is getting hit faster than it can conduct.' The faster you hit the coil the more effect you get.

This is the same as the micro spark gap in the stun gun internals. We charge up a gap, get a high speed discharge into another tank. Then we short the tank to get output. The steel in the end of the gun or the last stage holds the field longer so we can hit it again. But the TPU has copper in its last stage...

--giantkiller.

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #175 on: October 14, 2009, 09:44:52 PM »
Yes, most all FETs have a very fast internal avalanche diode to prevent excess source-gate potentials developing and thus ruining the junction.

I thought for a long time that these internal diodes hindered OU research and actually set about trying to blow that diode without damaging the switch junction. I was unsuccesful in those efforts and ruined 4 FETs.

But what I have discovered since is one way to bypass that internal diode without slowing the switch down noticeably. Taking advantage of it being an avalanche device, simply use another avalalanche diode (source to drain) with lower passing voltage outside of the FET package, the leads much be kept short if you select a passing voltage only slightly lower than the internal diode. This diode can pump a collection cap or energize another coil allowing full harvesting of BEMF.

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« Reply #176 on: October 14, 2009, 10:08:13 PM »
@GK,

I agree we dont know what is obfuscation in SMs revelations. I have also thought about HV E fields interacting with mag fields. Perhaps his devices did contain a small buck converter like a CFL driver to mantain a strong Efield (with 5kHz ish ripples on it).

The video sparks do look like they are HF HV, like they have brief interoscillation instants when potentials are very high. This is reinforced by the fact that he has to strike the wires to make a spark (because the bulk of the power is low voltage) but he seems to be able to draw quite an arc once he has the plasma path established, longer than one would think for a few hundred volts. So the output voltage is probably on average 100s of volts but if viewed on a fast scope it might contain much higher transients. To use the OP properly fast big caps would be needed to absorb all the energy before running big slow loads like big coils etc. Light bulbs would work OK because they can sink quite high freqs being only tiny coils.

a Few nights ago I rigged my HV supply to create a 1...2kV potential across a top and bottom collector loops. The potential was slowly bleeding through resistors and neon so I could eyeball voltage. I was careful to have a safety spark gap on the HV OP set to much lower than the dielectric breakdown of my coil insulation which I'd already clocked at around 6kV, If that breaks down any equipment hooked up gets zapped! My gap breaks down at 2kV so I had a good safety margin also I was using x100 probes on the scope.

Then I fired control coils in different combos (cross coupled, bifilar shorted end, and parallel) at different freqs. I was thinking I could cause some avalanche (without arc) between collectors that might suck in something from ambient and perhaps I would see the neon brighten or dim without HV supply drawing different. I havent seen that yet, but i've only spent a couple of hours on this.

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« Reply #177 on: October 15, 2009, 02:05:28 AM »
Wow lots of good points to consider. Obfuscation is always in the back of our minds for sure. Either way we will find out eventually.

@GK

Let me tell you the idea behind what I am talking about regarding that test that is the one that blew my Pulse Generator. lol

In all our coils there is a north and a south polarity. If you wind enough turns, you will create these poles. Even your ring, if it has enough turns it will have both poles.

The idea behind using a coil of high inductance (CHI) connected to a ring of around 2 1/4 turns (number of turns in the FTPU rings) is that the ring will not have enough turns to create its own north and south poles. You take the positive of the power supply and connect it through the IRF840 to one side of the CHI and give it the positive pulse so the pulse leaving the CHI will be negative going to the ring. The ring does not have enough turns to become its own coil so it takes the negative from the coil and the other side of the ring is then also connected to the negative of the power supply. THE RING STARTS AND STOPS NEGATIVE so it only has one polarity. Now imagine you have a control coil wound all around that ring that is pulsing all negative. Basically what you created is a great imbalance in potentials. Also, the ring then has another special property. It does not have a blotch wall because the blotch wall is inside the CHI. If the ring had both polarities, it would also have to have a blotch wall, but this way, it does not. lol

Anyways, I am not EE savvy enough to give the right explanation but just imagine the ring has a north polarity, and you are located on the Earth hemisphere having a predominant south ambient polarity, since no one can be in both polarities at the same time on Earth, or even in space from interstellar fields, you will only be exposed to one polarity. So the control coil (CC) in this case is actually the collector or the juice maker. You pulse the ring negative while the ring is inside the CC, that pulse will move outwards through the CC and attract the south ambient field around you. Ether or whatever you want to call it can only be attracted through an imbalance, since ether is there to maintain a balance between all matter.

Now lets say there was only so much ether available physically around you. But ether is everywhere. It is in the space you were just in, are in and will be in in the next second since you are moving through it at 67kmph, every second of every day. And so is your TPU. lol

If you pulse a ring that has both polarities, the north will attract the south ambient field but the south will repel it so half your juice is used to attract and the other half is used to repel, hence neutral gain. I think this is why we are not winning this battle for free energy. We need to work with an imbalance in potentials and learn to capitalize on the ambient field around us.

A thunder cloud will strike the Earth but only 2/3rds of the way since the bolt actually also comes up out of the ground to meet it. The cloud made an imbalance and the Ether came to fill it up. I am not saying make so big but the imbalance principle is what we need to work out in this and then trust the Ether to meet it half way. Imagine if such a level of trust was a given fact, a normal fact of life, lay out the design and let the ether work with the imbalance. Clouds have been doing it since forever. 

For the CHI I used only half of a toroidal coil so the flux in the toroid core could turn in the core and return to the same coil thus increasing the imbalance on the ring. So imagine if you have two coils on the toroid as two CHIs and two rings with CC around them,. Sound familiar?????????

Now this could be totally off the mark in the way a TPU works, but it is an avenue I have been investigating recently by cutting lengths off rings and checking with a compass without pulsing but just applying a steady dc voltage to the CHI and ring. Guys really have to think out of the box and not rely on the conventional notions of EE. For me it is easy cause I don't have those conventional notions and my livelihood is not dependent on convincing others of this or that cannot be.

I think this is what was happening with @ottos ECD since it had CCs joined to rings and the rings did not have many turns. When his bulb lit super bright, that power was not coming from his power supply. It just appeared through thin air. How come?????????

Anyways, I have rambled long enough so I'll stop here.
Stay tuned for more FTPU discoveries.

Maybe one question. Is there a mosfet available that works in reverse of the IRF840. If the 840 will close when pulsed and open when the pulse is off. Is there a mosfet that opens when pulsed and closes when the pulse is off. If so, you can have one of each on the same line. The 840 pulses and the other diverts the flyback to the toroid, or, the CC.
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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #178 on: October 15, 2009, 04:04:47 AM »
If you did not insist on using so damn much current in the first place, then the  spike from the inductive collapse wouldn't be a problem.

Unless you are slamming magnetic fields together N to N or S to S - you don't need much current.

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Of course, if you used a coil with very high inductance and the flyback effect to "excite" coils, then you might be on to something.

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« Reply #179 on: October 15, 2009, 04:24:07 AM »
 @wattsup up Excellent food for thought there , thank you for sharing


An electron tube is normally on and needs to be held off by a bias resisitor from cathode to grid so that it can then  be "allowed" to turn on by releasing the grid from its influence from the cathode , exactly the opposite of a fet ...Perhaps the point of difference that is important and, perhaps the context where the speed is signigicant .


Tubes also suffer from "magnetic inteference" and perhaps is what can be used to advantage.


 

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