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kmarinas86

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #240 on: October 27, 2009, 05:29:19 PM »
A little offtopic but I need an advice.

How can I compute the length of coil knowing only resistance and inductance of coil ? Is that possible at all ? I have to measure exact length of secondary of my old Russian car coil and obviously I cannot dismantle it .
Yes - it is for 1/4 wavelength  to maximize vibrations I suppose ;D

You would have to consider things like:
1) The wire gauge
2) The shape of the coil
3) If the coil is actually multiple coils
4) If the coils are connected in parallel or series
5) The type of metal used in the conductor
6) The influence that surrounding materials have on inductance

1) Look up a patent search for the old Russian car coil.
2) Call up the manufacturer.

Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #240 on: October 27, 2009, 05:29:19 PM »

giantkiller

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #241 on: October 27, 2009, 06:10:37 PM »
Lest we forget...
Thank you, Marco.

These two vids show me that if we have a stable magnetic field, that field can be pushed with another field. In Marco's vid the core(sic) gets pushed. In Otto's we see the core then pushing a disconnected coil with a magnet aiding that. The thumping shows up in both vids. In these vids there is something mechanical that is loose. I am now wondering if 2 layers held in stasis would show a moving or flexing field that runs against another statis layer to be captured. Also in both vids there is a pulsed toroid. Marco's direction is horizontal and Otto's is Vertical. I have a vid of Marco's that is also vertical. I will find it and post.
Also!!! Otto's setup is very similar to a subcoil in Stan Deyo's wedding cake fashioned coil.
See attached. And in the vien of pushing I took this other thread:
Step #1
Step#2
http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_832.shtml
Step#3
http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/mpd.htm

--gk.

Hello all,

this is what I was talking about. Sorry, its my 1. video and not so good.

or surch for "vibration coils by otto

Otto
« Last Edit: October 27, 2009, 10:12:37 PM by giantkiller »

innovation_station

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #242 on: October 27, 2009, 08:32:19 PM »
OOOO

magic carpet ride ...

ist!

hover board anyone ... ?

Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #242 on: October 27, 2009, 08:32:19 PM »

Grumpy

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #243 on: October 27, 2009, 09:26:51 PM »
Lest we forget...
Thank you, Marco.

These two vids show me that if we have a stable magnetic field, that field can be pushed with another field. In Marco's vid the core(sic) gets pushed. In Otto's we see the core then pushing a disconnected coil with a magnet aiding that. The thumping shows up in both vids. In these vids there is something mechanical that is loose. I am now wondering if 2 layers held in stasis would show a moving or flexing field that runs against another statis layer to be captured. Also in both vids there is a pulsed toroid. Marco's direction is horizontal and Otto's is Vertical. I have a vid of Marco's that is also vertical. I will find it and post.
Also!!! Otto's setup is very similar to a subcoil in Stan Deyo's birthday cake fashioned coil.
See attached. And in the vien of pushing I took this other thread:
Step #1
Step#2
http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_832.shtml
Step#3
http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/mpd.htm

--gk.

Look at the chart on the right side of the page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guiding_center

Conditions A and B will not result in usable current, but conditions C and D will.

Condition "C" may apply to the homopolar generator, where the force is the rotation of the disc, and the current is radial across the disc.

Condition "D" reminds me of several posts made by "tsl" where the inhomogeneous field is his radial magnetic field and the collector produces a static magnetic field perpendicular to this radial field.

stprue

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #244 on: October 27, 2009, 10:16:18 PM »
Why do we use square wave???  So far triangle works the best for me but I don't have an oscope yet so I can't see what's actually happening.....even though I hook my TPU up differently every time

Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #244 on: October 27, 2009, 10:16:18 PM »

dankie

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #245 on: October 27, 2009, 11:33:32 PM »
duhhh.....You are seriously an idiot ...

b0rg13

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #246 on: October 28, 2009, 12:33:30 AM »
duhhh.....You are seriously an idiot ...

nothing real to add here except insults?... whos the idiot.

Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #246 on: October 28, 2009, 12:33:30 AM »

dankie

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #247 on: October 28, 2009, 12:48:41 AM »
nothing real to add here except insults?... whos the idiot.

Me ? I have lots to add .

I call people  idiots , its fun .

And they are really alot of idiots around , its quite pathetic really .

Grumpy

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #248 on: October 28, 2009, 01:47:43 AM »
duhhh.....You are seriously an idiot ...

said the idiot...

Funny how the wanna-be-troll shows up after I link specific field interactions resulting in electron drift and the TPU.  Not a peep for along time before that.

Whatever happened to "tsl"?

=======================================================

Anyway, you get electron drift from the interaction of a force such as "gravity" (which seems to be radial - hmm....) and a static magnetic field, or by the interaction of a diverging magnetic field (radial?) and a static magnetic field - provided you have free electrons/positrons available.

Now, what can you build that does this?

Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #248 on: October 28, 2009, 01:47:43 AM »

sparks

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #249 on: October 28, 2009, 01:56:52 AM »
Grumpy should enjoy this official verification that electric fields can move faster than the speed of light.  If we take a charged capacitor plate and move it towards a capactior plate of opposite charge how fast does the other plate know the first plate has moved.  Not the speed of the other plate but how fast does it recognize the other plates change in space.  Polarization currents are pretty darn quick.

dankie

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #250 on: October 28, 2009, 02:09:34 AM »
Its rather weird , I dont dont actually know why it is doing that , what is it sitting on EXACTLY .

But ... I can test it with pure luck .

Raffining that thing will be some  WORK however .

This needs a fast programmable microprocessor , I dont know that  however so I overcomplicate thing with analog .

Its all really interresting ... But it is beyond my current knowledge of calculations . This stuf is just a pain in the ass unless I get it all handed it to me.

You need to be clever to put it all together , not only electronics but knowledge of how the physics play out .
Gib me , impedance of all coils , core type , and frequency of operation of a working TPU .

Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #250 on: October 28, 2009, 02:09:34 AM »

EMdevices

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #251 on: October 28, 2009, 06:09:51 AM »
very interesting article sparks,  it probably is related to all the other faster-then-light schemes.  It's no secret that phase velocity in a waveguide can be faster then the speed of light in free space (approx 3x10^8 m/s) but information (or group  velocity) is a lot slower and depends on the dielectrics used.  This article seems to be written as a digest of the actual research, so I bet that in reality this is nothing more then phase velocity they are talking about, which doesn't surprise me one little bit.

P.S.   I just realized something else, look at their implementation, they have digital boards that switch the electric field.  Light moves about 30 cm in 1 ns, does that tell you anything.  I tracked down the original article:  http://www.lanl.gov/news/index.php/fuseaction/1663.article/d/20081/id/12337, highly doubtful the editors fully understand what they're saying, just like I thought.

EM

Grumpy should enjoy this official verification that electric fields can move faster than the speed of light.  If we take a charged capacitor plate and move it towards a capactior plate of opposite charge how fast does the other plate know the first plate has moved.  Not the speed of the other plate but how fast does it recognize the other plates change in space.  Polarization currents are pretty darn quick.

forest

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #252 on: October 28, 2009, 08:49:33 AM »
"I will tell you how in my opinion that radiant effect is produced. On a peak of DC impulse sent into transformer/coil ,magnetic field is collapsing and changing direction.In correct moment another DC pulse should be generated on transformer/coil  a little bit stronger that collapsing one.  In small amount of time those two fields look like a hollow sphere sound source because the collapsing field and increasing field nullify each other effects except small area far from the source (coil) when second impulse was stronger then collapsing one."

Hmm..compare it to that article.... very interesting

forest

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #253 on: October 28, 2009, 08:50:58 AM »
The same can be done with another sequence : first stronger impulse then weaker, with a proper timing.

wattsup

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #254 on: October 28, 2009, 01:26:52 PM »
Grumpy should enjoy this official verification that electric fields can move faster than the speed of light.  If we take a charged capacitor plate and move it towards a capactior plate of opposite charge how fast does the other plate know the first plate has moved.  Not the speed of the other plate but how fast does it recognize the other plates change in space.  Polarization currents are pretty darn quick.

@sparks

Yep, in a second take the sun out and pitch black will get here in seven minutes, but we will already have veered off our orbit the next second, same goes with Pluto and the rest of the gang. Oh, down boy. lol So how fast is that?

@otto

Good video. Thanks. I see the point of your video. If you were pulsing at 5000hz, I would understand that the coil would make nice whizzing sounds from internal loose coil wire vibrations, but at 200khz, seeing it move is very out of the ordinary. One would not expect that at such high frequencies.

@GK

Nice cake. Three series primary and secondary loops. Which is which? Is the primary the bottom round coils used to make a vortex field that impresses transfer around the vertical rising secondary, or, is the primary the vertical rising coil used to pulse one polarity through the bottom secondary to create a potential difference.

A side note.
Here is an image of a copper atom.
Seems to remind me of @Bruce_TPUs build and also in a way of your above photo. lol

I am worried that maybe Bruce is not getting the results he is anticipating and this may be due to the three windings meeting all three at the bottom, two in the middle and one on the top. Seems there may be some potential cancellation effect that would be going on if the timing is not perfectly matched to each coil set. The challenge will be to find the first two coil frequencies that will not cancel each other, then the added dilemma of finding the third that will not cancel one or both of the others. Add that to having the three coils at different total wire lengths and this is definitely not an easy puzzle to resolve. I imagine the lowest frequency would be the shortest wind and go higher from there for the others.

Also, I am thinking that if the three horizontal loops were in series, the total loop would undergo a difference in potential from the top (one vertical coil) to the middle (two vertical coils) to the bottom (three vertical coils) acting upon them.