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Offline IceStorm

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #105 on: October 12, 2009, 05:02:37 AM »
nice graphics GK, if only they were real.   LOL 

I'm telling you guys, I know the secret ! but apparently it's falling on death ears.

I just don't have the time right now to do a proper design that's impedance matched, otherwise I'll be lighting up 100 watt bulbs.  It's not rocket science you know!   Just add a regulator to the output and I will get stable power to show you, but other priorities are here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV0UE-84NEI

EM

P.S.  This is what I believe a TPU schematic is or should be, and what I will try and build when I have the time.

Nice video , coil under the table hooked to a frequency generator of something else, i have already saw that in other video, we call that magnetic coupling you know ?.

The problem in what you wrote is at VLF level, to get the maximum power you need the 1/4 wave and your coil is realy FAR FAR FAR from the lenght required for that. Make better hoax pls, this one was just to simple.

Waiting for your next hoax.
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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #106 on: October 12, 2009, 05:48:53 AM »
There are lot of people now,who know the secrets, somebody please give us a clear answer why there is a slightly increase in the inrush of the current. No frequency's, oscillators, nothing, just a simple wire, a DC power source.

There alot of reason for that. A light bulb for exemple, at first the filament have realy low resistance, but when it become hotter the resistance increase, so when you apply the power to it , you see a inrush current and it stabilize when the filament is red hot. Same thing with a capacitor , at first the impedance is realy low, so the current is realy high but the impedance change until its nearly infini (fully charged).There no secret here.

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #107 on: October 12, 2009, 05:53:43 AM »
I am not doing grid induction.

2 ring test:
correction:

530hz
duty cycle 33%
2 rings

With another copper ring (not pulsed) above the first the ringing starts up after 20 seconds the dies after 1 minute. It chokes into quiescence.

This is not what I expected. Got to find a way around this. but wait after 3 minutes it comes back to life!

Gonna be tricky.
I reconnect a signal to the second ring cw also and the ringing dies. I remove the 2nd signal and the ringing returns.
both rings are cw. i get 1000x the input freq.

Each coil works separately. My distance between the coils could cause the canceling. Probably an incorrect harmonic distance. I will make this variable.


How about magnetic echoing with the timing as resonant. Wattsup posted a cross-coupled feedback system between the 2 coils.

@Wattsup! Success again. The cross-coupling of the feedback keeps both coils running in synch. But the bottom has 3.9vp2p while the top one has 1.2vp2p. I am driving with 2 freqs. I will patch down to one. You see the dynamic harmonics in the waveforms. I turned on my camera and the waves died. The coils are not matched closely enough but the freq that best matches the coil takes over and both channels are in lock step. My thinking is the unmatched coil adds the harmonics. If it is that tight I will include an iron wire delay. I found some of the tricky part. Thanks for the diagram. I will have to usb scope capture the waves. Everybody has to see the harmonics dance. There won't be higher voltage until the tuning gets tighten. I am watching the system try to itself but the mismatch diminishes that.
After camera off and coils off the coils are turned back on come back to active status. They fight to synch up and stay alive.
No resistors and no heat! I add an amp meter tomorrow also.

Tomorrow: Next config and new post further on in this thread.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2009, 07:50:52 AM by giantkiller »

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Re: Steven Marks secret
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« Reply #108 on: October 12, 2009, 07:09:36 AM »
@Icestorm, my video is not a hoax, if you would have seen my other VLF coupling videos, you would know why I'm testing on the dining room table under the chandelier, when it's ON.  I can pick up energy from wires carrying VLF from the power grid up to about 4 feet.  My video was not meant to fake anything, but to illustrate the POWER that can be received from the grid harmonics.  That's the secret, it has to be.  His house is right next to the HV and high current power lines.  And yes, at VLF the wavelength is huge, and it's not pure magnetic induction it's resonant magnetic induction.   Big difference, the Q of resonance (for simple LC tanks) can built up the voltage 30 to 60 times beyond what normal induction could ever do.  That's the TPU secret, or part of it, as you can see he obtains stable DC voltage at the output, so there is more involved, like some active device to regulate.

Others would disagree with me on this, and claim the "turbine" effect is what makes a DC voltage. 

I second your explanation for the inrush current.

@GK,
what do you mean 1000x the input?   Are you using a square wave to drive ?  If you are, then there is no mystery.  The sharper the transition in the "square" wave the higher the frequency content.  It's the slope of the transitions that directly relates to how high a frequency content the signal possess.   So your stimulating some resonance and you will see the ringing.  The trick is to determine what rings and why, so you can build on that.   But regardless of what rings,  if you want a "receiver of energy" like the TPU, first determine the frequency in the air that's present at your location, then work on tuning, mixing, into it, etc...  This is what I'm trying to drive at over and over, so I'll stop.  I think I've said it way too much already.

EM
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« Reply #109 on: October 12, 2009, 07:43:53 AM »
@Icestorm, my video is not a hoax, if you would have seen my other VLF coupling videos, you would know why I'm testing on the dining room table under the chandelier, when it's ON.  I can pick up energy from wires carrying VLF from the power grid up to about 4 feet.  My video was not meant to fake anything, but to illustrate the POWER that can be received from the grid harmonics.  That's the secret, it has to be.  His house is right next to the HV and high current power lines.  And yes, at VLF the wavelength is huge, and it's not pure magnetic induction it's resonant magnetic induction.   Big difference, the Q of resonance (for simple LC tanks) can built up the voltage 30 to 60 times beyond what normal induction could ever do.  That's the TPU secret, or part of it, as you can see he obtains stable DC voltage at the output, so there is more involved, like some active device to regulate.

Others would disagree with me on this, and claim the "turbine" effect is what makes a DC voltage. 

I second your explanation for the inrush current.

@GK,
what do you mean 1000x the input?   Are you using a square wave to drive ?  If you are, then there is no mystery.  The sharper the transition in the "square" wave the higher the frequency content.  It's the slope of the transitions that directly relates to how high a frequency content the signal possess.   So your stimulating some resonance and you will see the ringing.  The trick is to determine what rings and why, so you can build on that.   But regardless of what rings,  if you want a "receiver of energy" like the TPU, first determine the frequency in the air that's present at your location, then work on tuning, mixing, into it, etc...  This is what I'm trying to drive at over and over, so I'll stop.  I think I've said it way too much already.

EM

I understand what you said but with the inverse square law for wave propagation there is no way to light a resistive load unless your VERY near to the source, and im not talking yet about impedance mismatch who will be a real problem with the resistive load in your setup.

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #110 on: October 12, 2009, 07:55:39 AM »
@IceStorm,

you're so correct,  at a wavelength of approximately 50 KM,  1 meter is VERY NEAR to the source.  We are definitely in the near-field.  Look up the concept of tuned magnetic loops for VLF.  This technology is being utilized now by wireless power folks.

EM

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« Reply #111 on: October 12, 2009, 08:14:15 AM »
@IceStorm,

you're so correct,  at a wavelength of approximately 50 KM,  1 meter is VERY NEAR to the source.  We are definitely in the near-field.  Look up the concept of tuned magnetic loops for VLF.  This technology is being utilized now by wireless power folks.

EM

EMdevices, pls do a simple test,it take 10 sec to do. Use a spectrum analizer and look at the highest peak in the VLF range. Where im at right now the highest peak move from -20 DBm to -54 DBm , since its in DBm you can easily see how much power you can extract with a ideal LC Tank. Now tell me how i can light a resistive load instantly with that so little power ?

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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #112 on: October 12, 2009, 12:41:55 PM »
So when he said that the devices work in aircraft, that must have been an aircraft skimming the power lines? at 10,000 feet?  so it was a mountain power line
Even if that is the case it would revolutionize the way we distribute power.

Some how I think the radio guys ..like myself would have done this. I look forward to you sharing the results of your hypothesis. Meanwhile Otto has shown you something that may be so very important.

Just try and make a little  tiny coil jump with 200khz drive and buzz at 5-6 k.

I havent succeeded yet but we will work this little bit of the puzzle out

Interesting times, whatever your take on whats been put foward.   


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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #113 on: October 12, 2009, 01:38:32 PM »
I'm wondering. Is that the same effect when I switch my hair-dryer ? The lights nearby blink. Surprisingly the same effect occurs when I turn off dryer or when I change rpm by using switch.
The obvious test would be to compare light bulb without inductance with a dryer with inductance. Heat both and abruptly shut off power. Because both were heated temperature would have no difference to the effect.

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« Reply #114 on: October 12, 2009, 01:57:54 PM »
So when he said that the devices work in aircraft, that must have been an aircraft skimming the power lines? at 10,000 feet?  so it was a mountain power line
Even if that is the case it would revolutionize the way we distribute power.


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« Reply #115 on: October 12, 2009, 02:52:49 PM »
There are lot of people now,who know the secrets, somebody please give us a clear answer why there is a slightly increase in the inrush of the current. No frequency's, oscillators, nothing, just a simple wire, a DC power source.

Secrets?  There are no secrets!  It's just the interaction of the coils and fields, just electrons in a wire...


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Re: Steven Marks secret
« Reply #116 on: October 12, 2009, 03:40:38 PM »
@GK

I would like to replicate your coil, but I want to make sure I understand your description acurately. 

1: You have 16awg for your control wire/bifilar...so 2 wires connected to eachother via plastic covering?  This is wrapped around a 4 inch mold 2 turns?

2: Your control wires are would the same way? or one layer of bifilar and then another layer on top?

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« Reply #117 on: October 12, 2009, 04:10:12 PM »
What a clear answer.   :) 

I really don't understand you guys. Many of you claim, know how TPU's working, and as I understand SM clearly stated, without that phenomena, there wouldn't be overunity at all, so you guys must know, how and why that happening. Mannix, Otto? anybody?

Though would be better to get answer from somebody who really knows, I can put here my dumb little theory if you wish :-)

Shortly: starting electrical oscillations in circuit produce magnetic oscillation around circuit but somehow magnetic oscillation is not there when current started to flow and only remain the kick.

In fact your question was too wide, we need a lot of more answers for detailed questions.
1. What is the kick and how it is produced ? From what energy ?
2. How to produce two and more kicks from the first one and many more later ?
3. Is that the lot of kick which makes a big kick ? Is that related to current and how ? We all know that so called back EMF is a voltage kick no current - or we are mislead maybe ? if this is only voltage kick how to create current kick from that ?
4. how many methods exists to produce kicks and how to group they ?

and many many more

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« Reply #118 on: October 12, 2009, 05:47:46 PM »
What a clear answer.   :) 

I really don't understand you guys. Many of you claim, know how TPU's working, and as I understand SM clearly stated, without that phenomena, there wouldn't be overunity at all, so you guys must know, how and why that happening. Mannix, Otto? anybody?

Chef,

I was just being a smart ass, because everyone seems to think that there is some sort of "secret", like "secret frequencies", or "secret coils", etc.

I am curious, if you, Chef, know what occurs when the circuit is first closed.

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« Reply #119 on: October 12, 2009, 06:21:43 PM »
Hello all,

@Chef

all I can say is that I see the signals from the vibration can be a much bigger then the original input signals and thats for me more then enough to continue in my work.

Otto


 

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