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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16608207 times)

Free.Energy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12885 on: August 12, 2012, 10:31:12 PM »
Free.energy


where do you have ground cable in this presentation... (not at all ;-) )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFiaBKW50yA&feature=player_embedded

We see wires all around this device.  We see white wires, black and red.

 How are you sure that one is not to ground?

frantz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12886 on: August 12, 2012, 10:39:13 PM »
We see wires all around this device.  We see white wires, black and red.

 How are you sure that one is not to ground?


I'm sorry Free.Energy I was not precise


you wrote:
"See in all TK coils that the cable to ground is inside the coil.  Why is this?"
Tell me where do you see cable inside this coil?
« Last Edit: August 12, 2012, 11:47:59 PM by frantz »

Free.Energy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12887 on: August 12, 2012, 11:30:00 PM »

I'm sorry Free.Energy I was not precise


you wrote:
"See in all TK coils that the cable to ground is inside the coil.  Why is this?"
Tell me where do you see cable inside this coil?

It is very hard to see in this video with light so low.


Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12888 on: August 12, 2012, 11:32:03 PM »
An alternate opinion:


2004 video was early prototype and nothing is hidden.

There is no means for overunity in an ordinary transformer.
There is no proof of that. Maybe it depends on the interpretation of the term »ordinary transformer«. If connected the »wrong« way the transformer isn't ordinary any longer.

TK method for driving TK coil is secret.  If you find translation of green box video in pdf from years ago TK says resonator is in the box and is secret.  TK also says he found way for primary to always resonate with secondary and he names this autoresonance.
But what is TK referring to? If the resonator is in the box (as he says) then he could refer to the primary and the secondary of an »ordinary transformer« that is secretly hidden in the green box - not to the primary and secondary of the visible coil.

The measurements are not successful since current is longitudinal else power flow to earth will not work.  Clamp meter does not measure longitudinal current with electric field parallel with wire.  This is where the answer will find.
This sounds like someone has successfully replicated the TK device, otherwise how can one be sure? I haven't managed yet to get 23 amps power flow to earth, hence I can't say what kind of current a clamp meter needs in order to measure it correctly.

The ether cares because electric field modifies ether but only with rapid change.  The repetition rate is what TK confuses with resonance.
Then at which frequency starts the modification of the ether and why at this frequency? Does a permanent magnet modify the ether?

See in all TK coils that the cable to ground is inside the coil.  Why is this?
Can't see this in 100KW presentation with head-high coils.

Regards

frantz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12889 on: August 12, 2012, 11:43:31 PM »
There is no proof of that. Maybe it depends on the interpretation of the term »ordinary transformer«. If connected the »wrong« way the transformer isn't ordinary any longer.
But what is TK referring to? If the resonator is in the box (as he says) then he could refer to the primary and the secondary of an »ordinary transformer« that is secretly hidden in the green box - not to the primary and secondary of the visible coil.
This sounds like someone has successfully replicated the TK device, otherwise how can one be sure? I haven't managed yet to get 23 amps power flow to earth, hence I can't say what kind of current a clamp meter needs in order to measure it correctly.
Then at which frequency starts the modification of the ether and why at this frequency? Does a permanent magnet modify the ether?
Can't see this in 100KW presentation with head-high coils.

Regards


Only one I would like to say you Zeitmaschine: Respect for you :)

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12890 on: August 12, 2012, 11:52:11 PM »
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« Last Edit: August 13, 2012, 02:05:14 AM by a.king21 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12891 on: August 13, 2012, 12:12:24 AM »
Come on guys we're close:  REPLICATE AND PM ME!!


Where is your replication?
Why do you request people to PM you and not post their findings here in the open forum?


What is your real agenda?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12892 on: August 13, 2012, 12:28:40 AM »
Kapanadze's secret:
I forgot to mention: in order to get ferroresonance you need a capacitor in series in the resonator circuit.
It's classic stuff.
AND IT'S IN HIS PATENT   LOL
Come on guys we're close:  REPLICATE AND PM ME!!
Kapanadze no used ferroresonance because there will be limiting of output power!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12893 on: August 13, 2012, 12:35:36 AM »
dillbarre
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a.king21 Where is your replication?
Why do you request people to PM you and not post their findings here in the open forum?
End quote.
 
yes this is an odd request for an OPEN SOURCE forum??
""Factories"" 10 KW deals gone bad!
 
whats up with that??
Thx
Chet
 
 

frantz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12894 on: August 13, 2012, 12:37:06 AM »
Kapanadze's secret:
I forgot to mention: in order to get ferroresonance you need a capacitor in series in the resonator circuit.
It's classic stuff.
AND IT'S IN HIS PATENT   LOL
Come on guys we're close:  REPLICATE AND PM ME!!
and why are you so sure that it is ferroresonance?
Do you have some top secret info only FYI?


may be you are a novice entrepreneur and needs some bacground... ;-)


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12895 on: August 13, 2012, 01:21:12 AM »
There is no proof of that. Maybe it depends on the interpretation of the term »ordinary transformer«. If connected the »wrong« way the transformer isn't ordinary any longer.
But what is TK referring to? If the resonator is in the box (as he says) then he could refer to the primary and the secondary of an »ordinary transformer« that is secretly hidden in the green box - not to the primary and secondary of the visible coil.
This sounds like someone has successfully replicated the TK device, otherwise how can one be sure? I haven't managed yet to get 23 amps power flow to earth, hence I can't say what kind of current a clamp meter needs in order to measure it correctly.
Then at which frequency starts the modification of the ether and why at this frequency? Does a permanent magnet modify the ether?
Can't see this in 100KW presentation with head-high coils.

Regards

Hi, maybe, if it is wired like additive or substractive way, just a thought.

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12896 on: August 13, 2012, 01:42:55 AM »
dillbarre
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a.king21 Where is your replication?
Why do you request people to PM you and not post their findings here in the open forum?
End quote.
 
yes this is an odd request for an OPEN SOURCE forum??
""Factories"" 10 KW deals gone bad!
 
whats up with that??
Thx
Chet
Read my previous posts.

a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12897 on: August 13, 2012, 01:44:24 AM »
and why are you so sure that it is ferroresonance?
Do you have some top secret info only FYI?


may be you are a novice entrepreneur and needs some bacground... ;-)
Thank you for the insult.

Free.Energy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12898 on: August 13, 2012, 01:58:47 AM »
There is no proof of that. Maybe it depends on the interpretation of the term »ordinary transformer«. If connected the »wrong« way the transformer isn't ordinary any longer.

But what is TK referring to? If the resonator is in the box (as he says) then he could refer to the primary and the secondary of an »ordinary transformer« that is secretly hidden in the green box - not to the primary and secondary of the visible coil.

Transformer theory is well explored well understood.  There is not magic in a transformer because there is no magic in an electromagnetic field.

This sounds like someone has successfully replicated the TK device, otherwise how can one be sure? I haven't managed yet to get 23 amps power flow to earth, hence I can't say what kind of current a clamp meter needs in order to measure it correctly.

Clamp meter have a frequency range that they operate in and the readings are erroneous outside this frequency range.  Many handheld clamp meters operate in a 400Hz frequency range and will not measure current of several kHz correctly.  Some clamp meters can work to 1mHz.

Then at which frequency starts the modification of the ether and why at this frequency? Does a permanent magnet modify the ether?
Can't see this in 100KW presentation with head-high coils.

Regards

It is not the frequency that changes the ether it is the sudden change in voltage and high voltage is required.  The sudden change implies a high frequency but this does not mean the repetition rate is high and I doubt that TK is pulsing at mHz rates, but I bet he is pulsing and pulsing with a fast change.

In the 100kw demo I was told that he did not use the ground and that is was not required for this method.  I have not confirmed this and like I said, if there is no ground or another reference, then he must be using and inductive method in which the polarity is determined by the direction just like moving a magnet.

Koen van Vlaenderen has a theory.  This is not complete but looks good and explains many things I have seen or read about and not understood.  I understand much better now.

Here are some links to Koen's site:  view with firefox browser is best
http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/device.html
http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/theory.html
http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/hoaxes.html
http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/experiments.html

The page about hoaxes is very good and exposes Bearden, Bedini, Tewari, and others as the frauds they are.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12899 on: August 13, 2012, 02:17:53 AM »
dillbarre
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a.king21 Where is your replication?
Why do you request people to PM you and not post their findings here in the open forum?
End quote.
 
yes this is an odd request for an OPEN SOURCE forum??
""Factories"" 10 KW deals gone bad!
 
whats up with that??
Thx
Chet
Inventors need a reward for their efforts. Once rewards are negotiated, we open source. That's the deal. Otherwise people not contributing to this forum who can only offer insults get a free lunch.