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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 15808715 times)

Offline frantz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12960 on: August 14, 2012, 10:59:54 AM »
Quote from: Jack Noskills on August 14, 2012, 10:32:38 AM

This simulator is not accurate enough. It does not care about frequency that drives the coils, hence it cannot simulate the high impedance effect that driving frequency creates which is needed for this to work. In my tests if I used pressure of 40 watts, that I could take without consuming source, if I used 1 watt then I could take only that.
 
In this simulation there is 14 kw coming in but only fraction of it is consumed so it is not correct. What you can consume depends on the core, how much it can create. If that is exceeded only then it draws from the source.
 
Is there a simulator that understands frequency and its effects in an inductor correctly ? Can anyone test this if such a simulator exists ?


Jack,
you have a absolutely right. I gave link to this simulator because I wanted to pay attention for behaviour of current inside second transformer not for power gain or other things. As we know every one coil can resonate on some frequency without cap because have self capacitance and resistance. In this simulator is not possible to see this phenomena.
In my opinion is very interesting the phenomena with currents in second transformer. Rectified current without diodes! wow
But on output we still have AC signal...  :)
Remember, I don't want to destroy your idea because is very interesting and brilliant in its simplicity.


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Offline a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12961 on: August 14, 2012, 11:34:35 AM »
A close up of the earth lead and spark plugs in 2012 aquarium 2.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12962 on: August 14, 2012, 11:49:36 AM »
Zeitmachine: Re grounding. I have spoken to TK about this in many different ways. The conclusion is that it is a standing wave mechanism, first discovered by Oliver Lodge in the 19th century. It may have several functions. By experimentation it has been shown to keep your device in phase. In other experiments it can double the power in your device. The grounding can be replaced by the negative terminal of a car battery.
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Offline leo48

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12963 on: August 14, 2012, 12:22:47 PM »


In my opinion the earth is only necessary for personal safety because your device has high voltage circuits   8)

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Offline captainkt

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12964 on: August 14, 2012, 12:41:09 PM »
@leo48, If only as regards to grounding. Some of the worst shocks I have had were from high voltage to earth, no earth no shock. When using high voltage the earth needs to be out of the way and keep one hand behind your back. Note in the green box video the bulbs only glowed with a poor earth via radiator, then when connected to good earth(water pipe) full brightness. In my opinion the grounding is a vital part of circuit, resonance to earth etc.
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Offline Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12965 on: August 14, 2012, 01:46:56 PM »
Quote from: captainkt on August 14, 2012, 12:41:09 PM
In my opinion the grounding is a vital part of circuit, resonance to earth etc.
Regards
Keith

I agree.  It is measured as carrying 25A current which is 3KW at 120V! If a standard AC clamp meter was used and the reading is accurate, then it points to a low frequency sinusoidal supply powering the electric fire. How could it be possible to extract 3KW of low frequency power from an earth rod!!! Let's get real gentlemen!

Hoppy
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Offline frantz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12966 on: August 14, 2012, 01:54:19 PM »
Another proposition, I don't know where is a problem...????
Watch power on input and output. COP around 368.... WOW


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Offline Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12967 on: August 14, 2012, 01:59:50 PM »
Quote from: frantz on August 14, 2012, 01:54:19 PM
Another proposition, I don't know where is a problem... ??? ?
Watch power on input and output. COP around 368.... WOW


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Frantz,

IMO simulators are not reliable for measuring the real analogue world.



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Offline frantz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12968 on: August 14, 2012, 02:03:44 PM »
Quote from: Hoppy on August 14, 2012, 01:59:50 PM
Frantz,

IMO simulators are not reliable for measuring the real analogue world.


OK, but see proposition of solution...
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Offline x_name41

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12969 on: August 14, 2012, 02:17:24 PM »
Like this has to be scheme: :)

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Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12970 on: August 14, 2012, 02:23:26 PM »
Quote from: frantz on August 13, 2012, 10:18:38 PM
Did you saw simulation?
Of course
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12971 on: August 14, 2012, 02:29:31 PM »
Quote from: verpies on August 14, 2012, 02:23:26 PM
Of course


watch last proposition with power comparison input / output.
And tell me what from.... is the difference??


And what from is so huge measurement error, if it is error...?
If TK told the true, "Melnichenko was so close", we should to use diodes...
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12972 on: August 14, 2012, 03:09:47 PM »
Quote from: frantz on August 14, 2012, 01:54:19 PM
Another proposition, I don't know where is a problem... ??? ?
Watch power on input and output. COP around 368.... WOW


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Frantz

The simulator is good.  Right click the input scope shot and click 'Show Negative Peak Value'  After you choose to show power consumed.

A resistor can only absorb power, so the scope shot of the resistor will only ever show a consumed value. When measuring the power of a source, the source can give power out and take power in. So in your scope shot of the source, it shows that 54w are being sent back to the source, because it is a measurement of the positive peaks. Now when you click "show Negative......' below the center line is what is taken from the source, and above the line is what is being given back to the source.  Add  a 4mh inductor in series with the load, and look at the input shot now. More back to the source.  ;]



The sim program is great. Yes resistances and inductances and capacitances neeed to be added for real world specs. But if we cant get OU in an 'ideal' world, its gunna be harder to do it in the real world.  ;]

So dont fret when using the sim with ideal world parts. Because if you can get OU, then thats a real good start in my book.  I have some circuits I will post after work. All the kinks have been worked out.

Circuit Sim will bug out here n there. When it does, it is best to redraw the circuit on a rebooted sim window, or make a code save before running a circuit. The bugs will be saved in the code if you save it while its buggin.  ;]  I had had 1.1 gigawatts OU Marty!!

Yeah my input was 68 frigga watts from 5v source with 100 ohm resistor in series. 

But over all, Falstad is a great sim for trying things very quickely and you get relatively good answers.

MaGs
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12973 on: August 14, 2012, 03:25:17 PM »
Quote from: Magluvin on August 14, 2012, 03:09:47 PM
Frantz

The simulator is good.  Right click the input scope shot and click 'Show Negative Peak Value'  After you choose to show power consumed.

A resistor can only absorb power, so the scope shot of the resistor will only ever show a consumed value. When measuring the power of a source, the source can give power out and take power in. So in your scope shot of the source, it shows that 54w are being sent back to the source, because it is a measurement of the positive peaks. Now when you click "show Negative......' below the center line is what is taken from the source, and above the line is what is being given back to the source.  Add  a 4mh inductor in series with the load, and look at the input shot now. More back to the source.  ;]


The sim program is great. Yes resistances and inductances and capacitances neeed to be added for real world specs. But if we cant get OU in an 'ideal' world, its gunna be harder to do it in the real world.  ;]

So dont fret when using the sim with ideal world parts. Because if you can get OU, then thats a real good start in my book.  I have some circuits I will post after work. All the kinks have been worked out.

Circuit Sim will bug out here n there. When it does, it is best to redraw the circuit on a rebooted sim window, or make a code save before running a circuit. The bugs will be saved in the code if you save it while its buggin.  ;]  I had had 1.1 gigawatts OU Marty!!

Yeah my input was 68 frigga watts from 5v source with 100 ohm resistor in series. 

But over all, Falstad is a great sim for trying things very quickely and you get relatively good answers.

MaGs


THX,
I made piece of sh...t. SorryI'm only trying... to find...
Sorry I'm tired and don't think properly... :-(
 sorry for the confusion


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12974 on: August 14, 2012, 03:27:00 PM »
What is that black spec floating under the aquarium when it is picked up at 1m 24s,  just under the power point on the wall in front?

Hoppy
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