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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 15826491 times)

Offline T-1000

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12945 on: August 13, 2012, 11:07:05 PM »
Ok,  As you can to see, current going in the same direction, always the same. As we know EM field is a combination of two fields like magnetic and electric. Whats happen when we will add external static electrostatic field around second transfotmer?  I think, we will extend one component of EM field like electric field and we will increase voltage on output with the same current which we have (increased from transformers circuit).   This is a idea only. 

I will remake question:

What will happen in transformer output with 2 primaries and one primary is like in current transformer for few amps+ very low volts low frequency sine wave and secondary primary is high resonant frequency of transformer and high woltage spikes + micromaps and on 180 degrees phase to sine wave of first primary?

P.S> If you try that in simulation it won't give you answer because this is outside of conventional model.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12946 on: August 13, 2012, 11:21:19 PM »
I will remake question:What will happen in transformer output with 2 primaries and one primary is like in current transformer for few amps+ very low volts low frequency sine wave and secondary primary is high resonant frequency of transformer and high woltage spikes + micromaps and on 180 degrees phase to sine wave of first primary?P.S> If you try that in simulation it won't give you answer because this is outside of conventional model.

 You are talking about the different circuit...
 I don't want to use HF only + static electric field from tvs...from colour tv set for sucking electrons....
 that's all.
 
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12947 on: August 13, 2012, 11:25:46 PM »

 You are talking about the different circuit...
 I don't want to use HF only + static electric field from tvs...from colour tv set for sucking electrons....
 that's all.

Not really :)
The static field from ТВС is very similar to magnetization of transformer in one primary just at much less intensity.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12948 on: August 13, 2012, 11:38:30 PM »
T1000  Did you saw how look signal from colour tv set after multiplier on oscilloscope?  This is DC not pulsed DC.    I'm talking about hot wire not about core.  But this is not important. In my idea we can use both DC or pulsed DC. Most important is potential (+)!
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12949 on: August 13, 2012, 11:44:11 PM »
John Hutchison effect  He uses 3 tesla coils, wired so that they  do not through off sparks.  He has wired a RF generator into the large coils and it creates a large field and runs 2 different frequences into the field and gets all different effects from antigravic effects, things disappear and it also taps into the either energy field and can become self sustaining .  He also uses a static generator in some way to enhance the field.  TK might be using the spark GAP TO CREATE the field and runs 2 different frequency thru the coil and taps into the either.  I'm just talking out loud but that toroid he saw in the new video might be the key. 
  TESLA claimed that you need mica capacitors that are necessary for a free energy device.    They have a special resonace that is needed to achieve the process of gathering the either.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12950 on: August 13, 2012, 11:56:46 PM »
Guys, what about we are talking?  I'm writing about Jacks circuit with small addition component, that's all.  And again we have so many coils, few hf, etc.  Lets focus on small things. I'm not a Tesla genius and you, too.  I would like to find answer for simple question.  Whats happen when we summarise two electric fields from different sources...?    One source is weak, second is strong.   In my opinion magnetic field in coil response for amperage, electric for voltage. And lets play.    And I see two ways for increase the power in coil, adding one of them from external resonant circuit.  
 
 For increasing current I putted scheme of idea few pages ago. For increasing voltage I'm thinking now. And I think the rule is the same but with voltage...;-)
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12951 on: August 14, 2012, 12:07:53 AM »
in regarding to the Jacks transformer:
this is a Java simulator application:
http://www.falstad.com/circuit/


between the lines you have code to import into this app
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$ 1 5.0E-6 20.712724888983452 23 5.0 50
T 144 224 256 336 0 4.0 1.0 -28.783634378696526 28.738547635144172 0.999
T 416 160 512 256 0 0.001 1.0 28.73854763514417 3.8839819695951094 0.999
v 80 224 80 336 0 1 50.0 230.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
r 576 160 576 256 0 1.0
w 80 224 144 224 0
w 80 336 144 336 0
w 256 224 416 224 0
w 416 224 416 256 0
w 416 160 416 128 0
w 416 128 544 128 0
w 544 128 544 256 0
w 544 256 512 256 0
w 544 256 576 256 0
w 256 336 512 336 0
w 512 160 512 336 0
w 512 160 576 160 0
o 2 64 0 35 320.0 204.8 0 -1
o 3 64 0 35 40.0 51.2 1 -1
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lets watch what happens in second transformer, I mean about current direction.
Its very interested.
As you can to see , there are no diodes... :-)

Question to all: Do you see a way to strengthen the signal in second transformer?
:-)

Hey Fr

If you right click the scope  shots you can select power consumed for the source and the load.

In your sim, I see about 14.5 kw out of source and about 12.5 kw back to source, which leaves about 2kw being actually taken from source.

The 14.5kw is for half of the input cycle and the 12kw is during the other half of the input cycle. So we can say 14.5kw out and 12.5kw back in, to the source.

Now, the output to the load is 1.4kw during each half cycle of input.

During the 14.5kw half of the cycle, we can shave off 1.4kw that went to the source as desired, so 13kw is stored in the circuit at the time.  Then during the phase of the cycle that sends 12.5kw back to the source, we ware also seeing 1.4kw being used at the load.
So during this 12.5kw back to the source stage, if that 12.5kw is being sent back to the source, and the load is receiving 1.4kw, then we have to consider the total stored is 12.5kw +1.4kw =13.9kw.    So it might look like .9kw is extra, being that we figured only 13kw stored from the initial cycle.

lol this will need some deeper analysis to determine if there is extra energy there.

Mags

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12952 on: August 14, 2012, 12:11:59 AM »
I don't think so.  maybe a little increase but it is not enough.  You must remember this simulator don't take internal resistances of coils etc.   We need something more, some external factor X... ;-)  read above.  

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12953 on: August 14, 2012, 12:22:25 AM »
John Hutchison effect  He uses 3 tesla coils, wired so that they  do not through off sparks.  He has wired a RF generator into the large coils and it creates a large field and runs 2 different frequences into the field and gets all different effects from antigravic effects, things disappear and it also taps into the either energy field and can become self sustaining .  He also uses a static generator in some way to enhance the field.  TK might be using the spark GAP TO CREATE the field and runs 2 different frequency thru the coil and taps into the either.  I'm just talking out loud but that toroid he saw in the new video might be the key. 
  TESLA claimed that you need mica capacitors that are necessary for a free energy device.    They have a special resonace that is needed to achieve the process of gathering the either.
I have read that Tesla highly recommended mica for caps, but I never read that mica had any special resonance effects.  Can you post a link to those comments by him. ;]  Im sure that mica was the best material that he could come up with at the time(back then), but im also sure that there are new materials that can come close or better these days.  And with Nano tech, things are going to get crazy. ;]

MaGs

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12954 on: August 14, 2012, 01:19:20 AM »
hi, just a thought, we are talking of the transformer ( 220 to HV ) could you use it as a tesla coil, or in a way to wire it like a tesla coil. or transmitter avec receiver in the same time ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12955 on: August 14, 2012, 07:22:11 AM »
hi, just a thought, we are talking of the transformer ( 220 to HV ) could you use it as a tesla coil, or in a way to wire it like a tesla coil. or transmitter avec receiver in the same time ...
Hi,
if you are asking about what I wrote - no
Maybe T1000 talking about this, ask him.


In my opinion, ordinary mixing two different frequency give us nothing.
we must remember the nature of the fields are a vector (electric and magnetic).
And sum only the same directions and turns of fields.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2012, 09:23:44 AM by frantz »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12956 on: August 14, 2012, 10:04:49 AM »
Hi @all,
let's pay attention for drawings showing the fields in the coil.
Everywhere you can to see magnetic field lines, but where are electric field lines on this drawings?
I remember this lines only in drawing of pancake coil of Tesla. That's all.
On this drawing we have electric field lines going from center to outside of coil.
Watch attached picture from V.Utkin doc.


Question is about cylindrical coil, will look similar?

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« Reply #12957 on: August 14, 2012, 10:13:13 AM »
@stivep,
maybe there is your membrane you're looking for?
Watch attachments from V.Utkin doc:

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12958 on: August 14, 2012, 10:14:02 AM »

This guy on youtube... [size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/user/RuslanXrus[/size] 


This looks promising, he's got points that draw very high amperage, but is also safe to touch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQCxLUqTsMQ

Offline Jack Noskills

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12959 on: August 14, 2012, 10:32:38 AM »
I don't think so.  maybe a little increase but it is not enough.  You must remember this simulator don't take internal resistances of coils etc.   We need something more, some external factor X... ;-)  read above. 

This simulator is not accurate enough. It does not care about frequency that drives the coils, hence it cannot simulate the high impedance effect that driving frequency creates which is needed for this to work. In my tests if I used pressure of 40 watts, that I could take without consuming source, if I used 1 watt then I could take only that.
 
In this simulation there is 14 kw coming in but only fraction of it is consumed so it is not correct. What you can consume depends on the core, how much it can create. If that is exceeded only then it draws from the source.
 
Is there a simulator that understands frequency and its effects in an inductor correctly ? Can anyone test this if such a simulator exists ?