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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16498693 times)

frantz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12915 on: August 13, 2012, 07:59:45 AM »
Thank you for the insult.


Hi a.king
Here we have some misunderstanding.


I would like you to explain as best I can.


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may be you are a novice entrepreneur and needs some background... ;-)
this was small joke, on next time I will write " - joke" not ";-)"


When I or others asking you about some details that you are silent. Are you answering only for the insults? Strange.
I do not blame the people, when you are writing only "make replication and PM me".


I respect your contribution to this forum, because you gave something new.
But try to understand others. Help them and try answer for questions. If you don't know something or don't remember, write this in few words, please.
I hope that we work as a team here, and we use the PM before the consultation if we do not want to publish some stupidity.


Best regards
frantz

elementSix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12916 on: August 13, 2012, 08:00:12 AM »
Kapanandze's device looks a lot like this device from the 30's.  Built by Henry Moray.  Here is the article.  It went down for a few days for some reason. 
http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=5279

elementSix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12917 on: August 13, 2012, 08:13:24 AM »
If anyone wants to buy me a ticket and go over and visit TK and take him and his boys out to dinner to talk about his work.  I will steal his small version of his device and meet you at the airport after dinner.  Then we will know the truth if its real or not.  Plus the secret....   Just throwing that out there.

frantz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12918 on: August 13, 2012, 08:30:38 AM »
OK @all
certain part of you starts thinking about resonance in ordinary grid transformer.
Maybe attached file will be useful for somebody.


I think, JackNoSkills should to read this document and whole others who's try to replicate Jack's idea...

T-1000

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12919 on: August 13, 2012, 09:27:01 AM »
I wonder if someone can try Zeitmachine's idea of using mains frequency and voltage on the circuit I posted. I asked my team  who were in Tbilisi and they could hear no evidence of high voltage, nor was there any evidence of electric shock. My guess is that if high voltage is used it is maybe 1 to 3 kv. But I could be wrong. Just a guess.
We also had heat reading equipment. They freaked out even more on that. Kapanadze said we would be able to see his secret with that.  What this tells me is that we are completely correct in working out that the secret is simple and small and light. The witnesses had no difficulty lifting the box. Throw out the junk components plus the weight of the visible coils plus the weight of the Plexiglas and how light is the real device - including conventional electronics to make 220v 50 Hz we assume. 3kg? 4 kg?  It cannot be much more. Probably much less.
Also can someone answer about 3 phase. I am not an expert on 3 phase solid state as I am used to generating it from a factory made generator.. Kapanadze has no difficulty getting 3 phase. Is there a cheap electronic way of doing it? If so do you know the components that are used? It might be a useful clue. Especially components used in Georgia.
The device also generated no heat and no additional noise that could be heard. Although the spark gap was noisy.
The team felt no unusual sensations and there were absolutely no ill effects.
It ran for over 4 hours continuously - probably 4 and a half. At no time did Kapanadze's team become anxious about the time we were there. It was as if the device was plugged in to a regular power outlet - which it most certainly was not.
You might read my post again with Romanov self runner demo.
The principle is simple: mix reactive current with BEMF voltage and they sum up.
I think this is closest what you can guess in TK device..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12920 on: August 13, 2012, 10:21:04 AM »

Here are some links to Koen's site:  view with firefox browser is best
http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/device.html
http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/theory.html
http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/hoaxes.html
http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/experiments.html

The page about hoaxes is very good and exposes Bearden, Bedini, Tewari, and others as the frauds they are.

Just for the record, The web page on "hoaxes" is wrong in many, if not all, cases.  It says that battery pulsing is a hoax, while I personally have proven COP>1 with battery pulse-charging from a solid-state circuit in spite of the fact that batteries don't really interest me.  And yes, I do know the difference between genuine charge and just elevated voltage, and I do know how to measure battery voltage.

Saying that permanent-magnet-only motors are impossible shows an incredible level of ignorance when they have genuinely been replicated.  It is VERY difficult to build a successful permanent-magnet-only motor and even more difficult to replicate it, particularly on a factory production line.  There is not the slightest evidence that Howard Johnson's motor was a hoax.  The same goes for the Perendev motor while claiming that for the Yildiz motor is ridiculous, considering that Muammer took the whole thing apart for examination after his demonstration in Holland.

Unfortunately, this level of ignorance throws doubt on the content of his other web pages.

Patrick


Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12921 on: August 13, 2012, 10:22:28 AM »

The device also generated no heat and no additional noise that could be heard. Although the spark gap was noisy.
The team felt no unusual sensations and there were absolutely no ill effects.
It ran for over 4 hours continuously - probably 4 and a half. At no time did Kapanadze's team become anxious about the time we were there. It was as if the device was plugged in to a regular power outlet - which it most certainly was not.

This is all the more reason why the braided 'earth' cable and external connection to the suspicious looking stud outside should have been examined in detail. Did the visiting team ask to examine this 'earthing' setup and what measurements were the team allowed to take? It has already been suggested that hooking an external power supply to this cable would have been possible, given that there was at least one insulated conductor within the braid.

TK must have quickly realised that his attempt to fool the punters with an industrial looking PCB populated with lots of IC's and a very 'iffy' looking coil of blue wire and black boxes all housed in an aquarium was futile. I cannot see anyone who has a good background in electronics / electrical engineering, taking this seriously enough to enter into any sort of agreement with TK. He admits its simple and taking heat measurements would give the game away. So, where is the heat being generated and by what within the aquarium??

Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12922 on: August 13, 2012, 10:24:35 AM »





          hi cheappower2012


        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFQ4mh4g_Lw

forest

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12923 on: August 13, 2012, 10:36:38 AM »
There is no spark because the energy is not built up high enough at this point in time.  The spark increases when the load is turned off in the 2012 video as the energy is building up faster since there is not load.  The spark is dissipating the excess charge. 

I have seen these things in pulse experiments and the energy will dissipate one way or another.  I had very loud expolsion sounds with no flash. Another time I accidentally grounded the energy across my body when touching a power supply and it shorted the main transistor in the supply.  This shorting happened twice and the third supply was a tiny flyback and it caught fire when the transistor shorted.  These problems were when using a dual spark gap and the energy was built up at the power supply which was not grounded.

It's not overunity, it's longitudinal induction (longitudinal waves are scalar waves).

I agree with you, however the main concern is if the source of scalar waves are external to the device or internal and if external if it's artificial or natural . Then if natural : is it safe to get energy from it and at what rate ? A lot of questions.

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12924 on: August 13, 2012, 11:15:44 AM »
Was anyone visiting Kapanadze ever just gone outside and pulled the house main breaker during a demonstration?
I know it would cause chaos...
While we are at it, why not go all the way?
e.g.: like this ;)
« Last Edit: August 13, 2012, 03:48:09 PM by verpies »

Jack Noskills

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12925 on: August 13, 2012, 01:52:12 PM »
OK @all
certain part of you starts thinking about resonance in ordinary grid transformer.
Maybe attached file will be useful for somebody.


I think, JackNoSkills should to read this document and whole others who's try to replicate Jack's idea...

Problem with this patent is that you need to match the load to source. If you change the load then you will drift away from optimum condition, system gets out of tune. This is my understanding, may not be correct.
 
'My device' does not care what is the load, I tested with 1 watt, 7 watt, 15 watt and 40 watt loads. No effect on other side, same thing TK says: he found a way to automatic resonance. Is 'my device' he's secret ? Only TK himself would know but if you would ask him face to face then you might see from his body language if I am using his secret.
 
At the moment I am stuck at 50 Hz, only way to proceed is to file for a divorce, which is also an option. Now thats some dirty suppression tactics lol.
If I can take around 30 watts while consuming 0 watts at 50 Hz, then how much could I get at 50000 Hz ? For example,
 
There is pressure of 1 uF at 1000 volts in one full sine wave, that would give 1 uF * 1000 * 1000 = 1 Joule. 1 joule for one second at 50 Hz would give me 50 joules, that is 50 watts. Don't think trafo cares if frequency is 50 Hz or 50000 Hz if core withstands it, so higher frequency should give 50 000 watts in this case.
 
So someone with access to suitable AC driver should verify if this scalability is true, all the details what needs to be done are here:
 
http://www.overunity.com/12487/simple-to-build-isolation-transformer-that-consumes-less-power-than-it-gives-out/msg330505/#msg330505
 
If something is unclear just PM me for questions, or ask in the thread. You could possibly save my marriage and give free energy to the world as a bonus. Now thats win-win deal !

TinselKoala

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12926 on: August 13, 2012, 01:53:00 PM »
Just for the record, The web page on "hoaxes" is wrong in many, if not all, cases.  It says that battery pulsing is a hoax, while I personally have proven COP>1 with battery pulse-charging from a solid-state circuit in spite of the fact that batteries don't really interest me.  And yes, I do know the difference between genuine charge and just elevated voltage, and I do know how to measure battery voltage.

Saying that permanent-magnet-only motors are impossible shows an incredible level of ignorance when they have genuinely been replicated.  It is VERY difficult to build a successful permanent-magnet-only motor and even more difficult to replicate it, particularly on a factory production line.  There is not the slightest evidence that Howard Johnson's motor was a hoax.  The same goes for the Perendev motor while claiming that for the Yildiz motor is ridiculous, considering that Muammer took the whole thing apart for examination after his demonstration in Holland.

Unfortunately, this level of ignorance throws doubt on the content of his other web pages.

Patrick

There is plenty wrong at Koen's website for sure, but not for the reasons you state.

You are making assertions without evidence, and in fact many of your assertions are known to be wrong.

Yildiz, Perendev (Brady) both hoaxes. Why is Brady in jail? Why is Yildiz still running his home on the grid?

HJ, hopeful errors. You say there is no evidence HJ's motor was a hoax, but on the contrary, there is no evidence that any of his "motors" actually worked... so of course they weren't hoaxes, just hopeful errors and overinterpreted demonstrations.

You claim that permanent magnet motors have "genuinely been replicated". Please post a link to a replication of a running permanent magnet motor.

Thanks in advance.

TinselKoala

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12927 on: August 13, 2012, 01:58:52 PM »
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At the moment I am stuck at 50 Hz, only way to proceed is to file for a divorce, which is also an option...


Quote of the Day!

Thanks, Jack !!

 ;D


(ps: you will find that cored transformers "do" care about the frequency of excitation....)
 

stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12928 on: August 13, 2012, 02:09:20 PM »






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dillbarreQuotea.king21 Where is your replication?Why do you request people to PM you and not post their findings here in the open forum?End quote. yes this is an odd request for an OPEN SOURCE forum??""Factories"" 10 KW deals gone bad! whats up with that??ThxChet




Inventors need a reward for their efforts. Once rewards are negotiated, we open source. That's the deal. Otherwise people not contributing to this forum who can only offer insults get a free lunch.





with all do respect I do not buy it mr King.
The story is good for children....


There will be billions of people who will never even know about this forum and they will benefit.


The all purpose of your proposed scenario is that you first have control with your two manufactures over  potential success .That might be nothing wrong of course or  reverse.


If anyone gets to TK secret he does not have to  contact you or anyone else.


There will be always someone who reward inventor more than your party...
But we went here to  true that...
or
 We went thrugh that
whenever   there is money involved people  have been losing lives.
Do you know Mr. King anyone  who ever benefit from FE?


Understand me please Mr.
King


There is nothing wrong with the money
I will accept money  as well BUT...
 NOT if it does not benefit  humanity equally.
I do not care how many bad guys are there.. or  "flat brains,"
Yes I would take money but technology would be known to everyone who is interested with it at no limitation.

At the end there will be 90% of the earth population that is not capable or not  comfortable with manufacturing  the device  and they will become our customers.There is enough bread  to all of us.


Pointing you is kind of delicate nature in this forum.
I by myself did not give a F... when I was offered 100 M  (EU) not ($)
So was Aidas and Arunas..
And is definitely more than your manufacturers could afford without taking loan.
But if they can that is even worse.
Because I was dealing with entity that is NOT commercial for profit manufacturing enterprise.
And entity was not interested to manufacture TK secret.
Perfect choice...
Well...
I spoke with NYW and directed this opportunity to TK
The deadline was May 26  He did not  use it.
instead of it it looks like he ripped off>> Mr King team for just 20k.

the small guys are in fear of big REWARDS
But they are still in possession of big argument in their hands like TK.
So they go for small 3k or 1k hoping no-one will sue  them for it.


The mentioned above just expose level of  brain of  such individuals.
Level of processing, Level of understanding.
Level of human quality development in field of interest.
You can have
intelligent murderer and intelligent thief
... intelligent scientist   and intelligent president
Everyone of above listed can  be bad or good guy..depends of point of view.


 But we can  have
also person who just was lucky to win lotto or find OU..
so now...:


You have magician who knows how to make trick and he is in fear to accept big.....
like small time ?Joe Shmo who found alien spacecraft in his backyard and now he thinks how much alcohol he can  buy for it..





So the end of my comment is
HOW MONEY MUCH IS ENOUGH? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??

























Wesley




PS:
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or find OU..
there was reason I did pointed on this word!!



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The mentioned above just expose level of  brain of  such individuals.
Level of processing, Level of understanding.
Level of human quality development in field of interest.
You can have
intelligent murderer and intelligent thief
... intelligent scientist   and intelligent president
Everyone of above listed can  be bad or good guy..depends of point of view.



We may have also one, non so  intelligent murderer but  intelligent thief stealing from  say 3 intelligent  scientists..............as well...........

that would make very  interesting ......interesting magician  as well.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2012, 04:25:41 PM by stivep »

Jack Noskills

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #12929 on: August 13, 2012, 02:59:32 PM »

Quote of the Day!

Thanks, Jack !!

 ;D


(ps: you will find that cored transformers "do" care about the frequency of excitation....)

I agree, core does care about frequency but how it behaves powerwise when frequency is increased is for us to find out. Less wire is needed and thicker wire can be used which is a good thing only. What I meant to say was that the unilateral induction effect stays no matter what the frequency is.