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T-1000

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8190 on: November 02, 2011, 12:59:39 PM »
Its easy to make coil lookiing image, its HARD to drive it properly to get OU..
All coils need filters ? LOW pass? High Pass?  Edge frequency of filters?
Why 50 Hz signal and 380 kHz signal have to by in SYNC?= One is VERY slow and other is fast. What difference does it make here?

Unless you do experiment, your questions won't be answered.

And it is simple as that: when you mix 2 incoming signals on ferrite in 2 coils(the geometry question still needs to be answered), you resonate ferrite core and use as transformer on same time. The experiment results show what happens when you tune those 2 signals in such way they start affecting needed power IN vs OUT. :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8191 on: November 02, 2011, 01:00:40 PM »
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this video ist SPAM ....!!!!!!
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@FreeEnergyInfo
all is possible...  but I could not see much difference with the device Tiger2007. Place  the copper plate replace the coil ... No spark gap. But in the Wesley video from  Georgia, spark gap is missing.
I was able lay down the high-frequency alternating current of two coils.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE4LBBrbVvw


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8192 on: November 02, 2011, 02:35:07 PM »
Offcource there is.
You find things that make sense and you find things that are suspicious.
Besides, untill you got one running in front of your eyes you can never be sure.

@microcontroller, OK you have said what you wanted to say. So now, please clear off. There are lots of sites where you can communicate with people like yourself.

Hope

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8193 on: November 02, 2011, 02:49:01 PM »
im very close to replicate, the pressure will be soon off from wesley and others shoulder.  everything will be clear,   
and people.
Never forget
Life is nothing without love. 
without love: life would be violent for all.
So strenghten it. and we can make this place all harmonious.
positive feelings are your best tool to defend yourselves from any negative energy.

Well said!
Peace

wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8194 on: November 02, 2011, 03:37:06 PM »
@T-1000

1) Please explain to us what the yoke coil replaces. Does it replace the flyback transformer (FBT) or the caduceus coil (CC) or is this a totally different system.

2) If it replaces the FBT, then should not the 150 turns coil have tap points at every 1/5th of total winds to put the small capacitor across the 3rd and 4th taps as per your diagram.

3) If it replaces the CC, then the topology is totally different concept. Can this be correct.

4) Another question is why do you guys want to work on the yoke coil when your first device works and people already started getting the components, etc. I think with the first device using the flyback and CC, we should look at this effect because it works with the CC that is extremely easy to make.

I have done some frequency hunting with the CC and have found some good effects. I will make a video hopefully tonight when I get back from work.

Also, I think I blew my flyback which was the standard dioded type. When I tried putting the HV output through the second FBT coil as per your diagram, I think the internal diodes just played havoc with that second coil.

5) Because of this, I would like to know if all have convened on a close match to the FBT you are using. Also, if we can identify the closest match to your flyback and if there is a good steady supply, I am willing to have one sent to you to try on your build, just to see if any other flyback will work before we all spend so much more time trying to hunt around for the right flyback. Maybe such a plan could be coordinated via @stivep and I am more then willing to paypal the expenses if this can lead to you trying a more widely available FBT model.

While testing my standard FBT, I have noticed that along with the HV output, there is another output. That output is the flyback returning to the power supply. When I provided the input power via my regulated DC power supply, the amperage and voltage reading flew through the roof and even if I put my Fluke 87 True RMS Multimeter across the feed supply, I could not get any readings as it only showed "overload".

So there is power exiting the FBT from the HV side but there is also some tremendous flyback return via the input side of the FBT that may need to be properly captured and returned to source.

I have so many more questions and even some requests for you to try certain variations but there has been so much off-topic things that it is not the good time.

Please do not give up on us.

wattsup


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8195 on: November 02, 2011, 04:24:32 PM »
@wattsup:
I understand that the circuit using the yoke ferrite core is a new simplified version that works. 
No more 25kV tuning capacitor or other hard to find parts. 
Just assemble the new special ferrite coil, and feed into it the HV and the 2 frequencies.
The output coil is a simplified way to make a caduceus coil.
By connecting the 2 opposite ends together the coils magnetic fields cancel each other out just like in caduceus. 

My only questions are about the HV input: 
Should it still go through an AV plug?  Does the frequency of the HV matter?

The oscillators can be made from "op amp IC's'.  ( I think the cheap ones can go up to 1MHz)
Using a dual or quad Op Amp will only need one chip and a hand full of cheap parts.
The high voltage can be made with op amp or 555 timer driven fly back. 
So this whole device can be made from an old TV or computer monitor. 
Only need wire 18 AWG. And op amp or 555 timer chips.

Could T-1000 or stivep  please verify that I have the right concept. 



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8197 on: November 02, 2011, 05:33:59 PM »
@AbbaRue

Thanks for your reply.

The Caduceus Coil (CC) has some very special properties that still needs to be investigated and not just set aside because there is a new Yoke Coil (YC) on the block. This will help me better understand the original TK design. Don't get me wrong though. I have one other yoke available because my first one has a coil designed by @otto on it that I just do not want to take apart for sentimental reasons. So I will make this YC soon enough.

But also, from what I read in your post, we still need the Flyback Transformer (FBT) to feed into the YC. So we still have to find the right FBT type and from my tests with a regular FBT, I now realize that the internal components are not suitable for such a design. (I had to test it for myself but ti does provide great HV output to play around with. Just don't touch the output wires - lol).

If you made a moment by moment depiction of the total process of the FBT, you need those internal diodes taken out because the energy is being pushed around from both directions and this is amplifying the overall FBT output to a different level then if you did it with a standard FBT. So this also has to be better understood. Amongst all of theses variables, eventually it will become evident that a set of features that will be able to use as a base principle in many other device formats, including many of the past builds I already have on hand.

The one thing I do not like is the fact that the first device shown by @T-1000 has already shown to be OU and we should all be jumping up in the air celebrating this fantastic event, but instead, all of a sudden a key component, the CC, has been replaced by this new YC. Usually one of the main rules of OU research is "If you have a working device, DO NOT CHANGE IT."

wattsup

PS: One thing about pulsing the FBT and producing the first spark gap. Man oh man. Every time I had it running it would play havoc with the TV, channels would change, my computer key board would disconnect, programs would open up on their own. So I really have to find a better enclosed spark gap as right now it is only two copper wires.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8198 on: November 02, 2011, 05:40:43 PM »
@AbbaRue

Thanks for your reply.

The Caduceus Coil (CC) has some very special properties that still needs to be investigated and not just set aside because there is a new Yoke Coil (YC) on the block. This will help me better understand the original TK design. Don't get me wrong though. I have one other yoke available because my first one has a coil designed by @otto on it that I just do not want to take apart for sentimental reasons. So I will make this YC soon enough.

But also, from what I read in your post, we still need the Flyback Transformer (FBT) to feed into the YC. So we still have to find the right FBT type and from my tests with a regular FBT, I now realize that the internal components are not suitable for such a design. (I had to test it for myself but ti does provide great HV output to play around with. Just don't touch the output wires - lol).

If you made a moment by moment depiction of the total process of the FBT, you need those internal diodes taken out because the energy is being pushed around from both directions and this is amplifying the overall FBT output to a different level then if you did it with a standard FBT. So this also has to be better understood. Amongst all of theses variables, eventually it will become evident that a set of features that will be able to use as a base principle in many other device formats, including many of the past builds I already have on hand.

The one thing I do not like is the fact that the first device shown by @T-1000 has already shown to be OU and we should all be jumping up in the air celebrating this fantastic event, but instead, all of a sudden a key component, the CC, has been replaced by this new YC. Usually one of the main rules of OU research is "If you have a working device, DO NOT CHANGE IT."

wattsup

PS: One thing about pulsing the FBT and producing the first spark gap. Man oh man. Every time I had it running it would play havoc with the TV, channels would change, my computer key board would disconnect, programs would open up on their own. So I really have to find a better enclosed spark gap as right now it is only two copper wires.

wattsup,

where can I see some video, or schematics for this....there are soo many pages I get lost in all of this... is it in this thread, or?


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8199 on: November 02, 2011, 05:56:22 PM »
@AbbaRue

Thanks for your reply.

The Caduceus Coil (CC) has some very special properties that still needs to be investigated and not just set aside because there is a new Yoke Coil (YC) on the block. This will help me better understand the original TK design. Don't get me wrong though. I have one other yoke available because my first one has a coil designed by @otto on it that I just do not want to take apart for sentimental reasons. So I will make this YC soon enough.



Hey Watts

Ive been wondering what is the connection between the caducius and bifi, as it seems they are replacing the cad with bifi in the second version.

I can see that with the cad coil earlier shown, its like 1 sort coil wound CW and the other CCW and they are connected at 1 end, as can be done with a bifi.
The difference is, the bifi are wound in the same direction, either CW or CCW.

The cad coil looks as if it has no self induction between opposing winds as the fields ar 90 deg from one side to the other. And no proximity between any turns other than crossings(90 deg).

Ive been seein a lot of coils that are wound CW on 1 half of the core(air, other) and CCW on the other half and connected in the middle.

Its an interesting config. If current flows through the coils, the mag fields in the core are in the opposite direction. The other difference is, the A fields of each coil oppose. Supposedly this creates a capacitive state between the 2 coils. Luc did this on a toroid a while back that was self oscillating once started.

Maybe all these, bifi, cad, and opposing series coils have some effects in common.

;]

Mags

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8200 on: November 02, 2011, 05:56:35 PM »
@T1000 & Stivep

It might be a good idea to start a new "TK Builders Thread"  At 548 pages this is getting a little long in the tooth.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8201 on: November 02, 2011, 06:05:17 PM »
Also, with what I have seen, the opposing coils are started with a coil in the middle to start the process. In this case, the field in the core is not opposing when the primary(middle) coil is pulsed.  This would mean that the far ends of the coils would be the same polarity in reference to the center where the 2 (cw and ccw) coils are connected in series.

Did TK have any coils that looked like 2 individual coils on the same core?  Ive seen one in the clear box demo vid. Blue?



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8202 on: November 02, 2011, 06:08:57 PM »
wattsup,

where can I see some video, or schematics for this....there are soo many pages I get lost in all of this... is it in this thread, or?

@bender

The links are all over the place. This is why we need one @member to do the following;

1) Contact @hartiberlin who is the forum administrator and ask him for permission to open a new companion thread to this one with moderator status and ability to lock the thread.

2) Open the new thread that can be called "Tariel Kapenadze" -
"Companion Thread", or,
"Tool Box", or,
"Compendium", or whatever.

3) Start post #1 as a Table of contents that has links to the main thread with a brief description of the link.

4) Put a link to the new thread in your profile signature so other @members can have access to it if it flies off recent posts page.

5) Once and a while post something on the main thread to keep your signature accessible on the main thread.

We need this to keep track and to enable anyone else who arrive here an easy method of getting up to speed.

I personally do not have the time to do it myself and hope that some @member will take up the challenge. So please all, let's get back on track.

wattsup


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8203 on: November 02, 2011, 07:13:32 PM »
@FreeEnergyInfo
all is possible...  but I could not see much difference with the device Tiger2007. Place  the copper plate replace the coil ... No spark gap. But in the Wesley video from  Georgia, spark gap is missing.
I was able lay down the high-frequency alternating current of two coils.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE4LBBrbVvw

spark gap role is to give the square shape impulse that is all !!!!!!!!!!!!
Take DC lightning..before it strikes

 It should not  create any  wave of any from and that is true.
But when you have lightning strike than DC voltage  rising and/or falling time create all of the possible frequencies from  very low to  the frequency of light.
So when you switch your radio on you can hear it on all hf VHF and UHF frequencies with the right antenna.
Now TK device that I have presented on my video ,did not have spark gap but it  contains HV pulse circuit.

Impedance is born with change, not with steady state...
So If you compare impedance to movement of the people against or pro anything.... that is because of change and not because  of no change...that is reaction of the crowd to the change..
Understood?
Now....
 DC is steady state.. there is no impedance.........
Change of one impulse only of DC is creation of impedance and all of the factors of impedance...
So changing field is responsible for action and reaction, and even if we are talking about  behavior of human being... that mechanism stays the same.......

We can eliminate spark gap if we are able to mimic pulse as if it was a spark gap...
At the time of Tesla that was impossible...

All we need is fast raise  time of  impulse  .. that is why in first schematic  shown at video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJBpNKSsdqw
time 12:29 minute we have to use fast diodes HV less or equal 100Ns!!!

Yes we have approached two subjects in within approximately 1.5 week period of time
and that what creates so many confusion.



For the video concept:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbeseiPPCeM
Critical in it is:
1. shape of ferrite
and
2. material of ferrite 
and
3. thin  piece of paper  between two halves of ferrite  altering magnetic flux.


I suggested to make experiments on original ferrite from TV deflection yoke
why shape is important?
 I do not know.. it is just my nos that is telling me that it must be something in it.. the rest I can understand to much greater extend.


Wesley



This is not the race for fame who is first o who is second..
I DO NOT CARE...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT IS A TEAM  OF PEOPLE DEDICATED TO get the things done.
IT IS NOT IMPORTANT IF MY NAME IS IN THE PAGES OF HISTORY  i DO NOT CARE........

If we have  two different concepts and than third one comes say from TK it is better to stay in that topic and do not create new one.. Book has many pages and  person looking for answer will need only to find the proper  page for it..not to find another book

there is so much of history here...
« Last Edit: November 02, 2011, 09:56:06 PM by stivep »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #8204 on: November 02, 2011, 07:45:45 PM »
TK uses TV verticalmodule make magnetic field.