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Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2009, 02:13:00 PM »
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Hi sir and everyone
if you mis something in this design, then you make the fish ready
cause we're going to cook it 

What the...?  ???

Otto you seem to have provided the ingredients but not the recipe... how does that lot fit together?

You folks seem to be being as obscure and as cryptic as ever. Any chance of some straight-talking?
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Tito L. Oracion

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2009, 02:28:42 PM »
Quote from: Farrah Day on June 19, 2009, 02:13:00 PM
What the...?  ???

Otto you seem to have provided the ingredients but not the recipe... how does that lot fit together?

You folks seem to be being as obscure and as cryptic as ever. Any chance of some straight-talking?

Hi sir
I've done that in my first experiment, though i do not want to cook, it fries everything but when i tried bearden's shared experiement, i got success! 
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Tito L. Oracion

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2009, 02:32:47 PM »
bye everyone

i'm off the popcorn, cause i'm busy cooking here,
see you next time.
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Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2009, 05:13:17 PM »
What??

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bye everyone

i'm off the popcorn, cause i'm busy cooking here,
see you next time.

Is it just my imagination or is everyone a little strange around here?

Tito, what are you talking about?  Are you sure you're on the right forum?  I'm sure there are forums that specialise in cooking and making popcorn, but I don't think it's here.

Has anyone had any success with building a TPU...  or is everyone into cooking popcorn and fish???  The mind boggles!
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Paul-R

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2009, 05:49:52 PM »
Quote from: otto on June 19, 2009, 11:23:04 AM

a "system" of coils, that rotates particles around the circumference of this device with a low current as possible because of a self resonance and feeding itself .
Otto
Shouldn't a definition include something of the point and purpose of the device?

You're making it look a bit like the M25 orbital road around London.
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MasterPlaster

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2009, 05:50:21 PM »
Out of box thinking:
For core material:
I am not into UFOs but please watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwrKeqDqQuE&feature=channel_page
around 3:44.

We've got to float this shit or we are done for.
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Grumpy

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2009, 11:40:27 PM »
Quote from: tsl on June 18, 2009, 10:11:11 PM
LOL Grumpy, that was a good one :)
It's bep's "bucking point" or my allready described radial field pattern that's moving along the collector while a current ispassing the same, when the direction of that current and the direction of that pattern are right you get your toy:self amplifying current ,don't stop the process at the right time and you'll get a boom .As allready said it's all about interaction between coils (actually fields).

Radial magnetic field

Hmm

A curious observation is that when direct current is first applied to a conductor, little metal things like paper clips strung along the length of the wire will flip around as if a magnet moved in a helix along the wire.
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Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2009, 11:43:42 PM »
On further research I see that the Mobius loop is mentioned in a couple of TPU designs. However, I cant see how round wire could ever become a Mobius loop... surely this can only apply to flat ribbon-like lengths of material. This seems to be another area of confusion.

Also, the shape of SM's devices is worth giving some thought. His collector coils are not circular and uniformly radial, the collector coil clearly has more height than width.   

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Mk1

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2009, 11:57:40 PM »
Quote from: Farrah Day on June 19, 2009, 11:43:42 PM
On further research I see that the Mobius loop is mentioned in a couple of TPU designs. However, I cant see how round wire could ever become a Mobius loop... surely this can only apply to flat ribbon-like lengths of material. This seems to be another area of confusion.

Also, the shape of SM's devices is worth giving some thought. His collector coils are not circular and uniformly radial, the collector coil clearly has more height than width.

The basic thing about mobius coil is that the winding direction changes at mid point , or maybe better Phi solution could also be used to calculate mid point.

Mark
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Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2009, 11:30:33 AM »
As far as I'm aware a Mobius loop effectively only has one side whereas it intitially appears to have two. I don't see how this term can possibly be applied to round wire which only has one side to start with. Yet looping the collector coil back on itself could possibly cancel out the back emf making it very efficient as per a Tesla bifilar coil.

Anyway, again on further research it would seem to me that SM's device most closely resembles the Tesla device than anything else I've seen. But I believe Tesla used a core as a former, not the collector as many are suggesting.

Yet more intrigue.

Something else I found interesting was this quote (thanks Dutchy):

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Yes Norbert, we did try them south of the equator, they work in reverse.
Can someone tell me why?


This statement would really tend to suggest interaction with the Earth's magnetic field rather than interstellar, or cosmic background radiation.  This is also backed up somewhat by the gyroscopic effect mentioned elsewhere.



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BEP

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2009, 01:42:34 PM »
The Mobius loop, in this case, has two qualities.
1. The current flow has one direction.
2. The coil polarity flips between the top and bottom loop sections. (WRONG! in the way it has been shown used for most TPU builds. The polarity does not flip in these builds but it may allow acceleration on one half of the loop only, while causing 720 deg. rotation to complete a circle.)

For the 'Norbert' comment I suggest you do experiments about static magnetic fields with velocity, while in the Earth's field. I know of no papers on this.

Edit>>>

Oops! 'Static magnetic fields with velocity while in another magnetic field'. I made a Sideroxylon  :D
« Last Edit: June 20, 2009, 02:43:53 PM by BEP »
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Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2009, 04:47:40 PM »
Nope, I just can't see how a coil of wire can be turned into a Mobius loop, especially given there must be terminals for the load.

Are there any drawings or depictions of a collector coil laid out in Mobius loop format, because after playing about with a piece of string for half an hour, I'm really struggling to see how this can be be achieved.

A Mobius strip, band or ribbon is very clear to understand, but applying this to a coil of wire is not at all obvious, and I have my doubts about this being incorporated in an SM TPU.
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Mk1

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2009, 08:47:31 PM »
@all

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tripole.htm

this can also be done from a bifilar coil and without the knots , so can't assume that sm did not use it . but if it really doesn't see its load , then i doesn't mess up the kick sync.

Mark
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BEP

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2009, 10:22:17 PM »
Quote from: Farrah Day on June 20, 2009, 04:47:40 PM
Nope, I just can't see how a coil of wire can be turned into a Mobius loop, especially given there must be terminals for the load.

Are there any drawings or depictions of a collector coil laid out in Mobius loop format, because after playing about with a piece of string for half an hour, I'm really struggling to see how this can be be achieved.

A Mobius strip, band or ribbon is very clear to understand, but applying this to a coil of wire is not at all obvious, and I have my doubts about this being incorporated in an SM TPU.

Try it with a piece of ribbon cable (multi-conductor flat). It'll be easier to visualize but not likely part of a TPU.

I don't remember 'Mobius' being mentioned in the SM texts anyway. It just seems to provide positive results for a few who have tried it.

The key is 'always do it the way you understand it'. Make your own choices.
 

Who said this coil is where load is connected? That would defeat the purpose.

See..... I think of things my way  ;D
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MACEDONIA CD

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2009, 11:36:15 PM »
heloo  here 
i like to say some simple my thinging

if i say  that for ufos  and tpu there is clousing stuff beatveing this two

everthing is magnetism  and rotations 

some my of  hmm

for ufo  craft
< if the  flaying disc or craft or  ... is posible to make  insaid to have some  mexanical  devics or not mexnical  spinig  ho whill be  more fast then 82 meter in one secund to makes rotation then  the  objeckt whill be  very easy to move beacouse  he whill be lost the kilogram or tones
>this  whill be produced own antigravitation  >
 tpu is like that   like giroscope effeckt > s.m say  that in his vedeos
is makes  spining vortex 
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