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Author Topic: New TPU build  (Read 124860 times)

Offline Farrah Day

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New TPU build
« on: June 14, 2009, 01:13:39 PM »
I am new to this area of technology, but have become intrigued by the TPU and indeed Dr. Stifflers work.

I intend to construct a small TPU. I have no problems with the components or fabricating such a unit, and although I have read much about these units, I have however, been unable to find enough details or an actual schematic for a TPU to initiate my construct.

To this end can someone kindly point me in the right direction (and/or link) to a schematic or suitably detailed diagram of a TPU from which I can make a start.

The generally accepted theory of operation would also be appreciated.

Given enough information for me to construct a unit, I intend then to detail my build and regularly update this thread as work progresses.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2009, 02:19:40 PM »
@Farrah Day,

Welcome!

There may be hundreds of theories. There are a few schematics thought to pertain to a SM TPU. None have been proved 100%.

Most are posted throughout this web site. If other information exists it probably hasn't been shared.




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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2009, 02:59:36 PM »
I believe user Wattsup has quite a library available here.
and poynt 99 also has data in a tpu specific thread

perhaps someone can post the links?[lost in a crash]

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2009, 02:59:36 PM »
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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2009, 04:47:31 PM »
I intend to construct a small TPU. I have no problems with the components or fabricating such a unit, and although I have read much about these units, I have however, been unable to find enough details or an actual schematic for a TPU to initiate my construct.

If you have read a lot about the devices, then you have most likely read all that is available. The inventor allowed some correspondence between himself and Lindsay Mannix to be passed on to the public, but no cookbook information was ever disclosed regarding hardware, and certainly no schematics were ever provided.

Unfortunately, you are in the same boat as all the rest. You must read what is available, view the videos, and make your own conclusions.

There are many theories abound, and you may jump-start your research from these if you wish. Those that have taken their theory to the next step and produced hardware prototypes, have as far as anyone knows, not resulted in a device that achieves overunity.

You may be interested in reading the "Spherics" thread as this may hold the key to understanding how the TPU works. I have written a WIP document based on his thread as well as my own insights.

Also, read the "Carl" documents, and pay attention to SM's response regarding tao's insights.

There is no known consensus as to: a) the theory of operation, b) the source of energy from whence it comes, c) whether sine or square waves are used, d) what the "kick" is or how to produce one, e) whether the rotating field is magnetic or not, f) what "perfect frequency" means, g) what frequencies are used and how many; 2 or 3?, h) whether it was all faked or not, etc. etc.

So although some progress has been made over the last 3 years, there are still many unknowns and very few people agree on anything.

SM himself stated that he was not sure of the source of energy. He certainly knew how to make the devices produce or convert energy, but whether he really knew why it worked is another question.

Good luck and welcome to the quest.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2009, 05:16:07 PM »
I see, I had assumed that many of you had a produced working units and expected at least a general theory of operation.

I've seen most of the SM demonstration videos - is it generally accepted that his TPU did what he claimed... or are there doubts to his credibility?

On reading what I have, my initial thoughts were that it would be the interaction with our planets magnetic field that comes into play, but all that I have read is very fragmented.

If I can just establish a few basics here:

The collector:  Is this basically a coil of heavy insulated copper wire, the load of which would be placed at the open ends?

Control coils: Are these (3?) small coils wound around the collector coil and spaced equally apart?  Are these control coils then pulsed at various frequencies (harmonics) in order to induce a current in the collector coil?

I read once that once the current was flowing in the collector coil that the unit became gyroscopic. In other words it took more effort than expected to move the unit or rather alter its angle in space. This would certainly suggest that there may well be an interaction with the Earth's magnetic field.

Spherics are the guys with the Mobius Loop TPU aren't they, which would seem to be a variation on SM's unit.

Are most people thinking along the lines that it is the back EMF from a fast decaying pulse to the control coils that gives the kick in the collector coil? And that at the correct frequencies this kick becomes enormous?

Is it in fact a mini particle accelerator??

Sorry so many questions, I'm just trying to pin down a few basics and understand what I am trying to achieve rather than blindly going about a build.



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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2009, 05:46:26 PM »

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2009, 05:49:59 PM »
I see, I had assumed that many of you had a produced working units and expected at least a general theory of operation.
Definitely not. As far as I know, the overunity prize has not been claimed, and you would certainly have heard by now if indeed someone had shared information about a "working unit".

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I've seen most of the SM demonstration videos - is it generally accepted that his TPU did what he claimed... or are there doubts to his credibility?
There are always doubters...some justified, some not.

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On reading what I have, my initial thoughts were that it would be the interaction with our planets magnetic field that comes into play, but all that I have read is very fragmented.
I would agree that there is an interaction, but I would not go any further than that.

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If I can just establish a few basics here:
This the problem. Even the basics have been elusive.

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The collector:  Is this basically a coil of heavy insulated copper wire, the load of which would be placed at the open ends?
That is one possibility.

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Control coils: Are these (3?) small coils wound around the collector coil and spaced equally apart?  Are these control coils then pulsed at various frequencies (harmonics) in order to induce a current in the collector coil?
Good questions. Another clear example of no known consensus due to lack of information.

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I read once that once the current was flowing in the collector coil that the unit became gyroscopic. In other words it took more effort than expected to move the unit or rather alter its angle in space. This would certainly suggest that there may well be an interaction with the Earth's magnetic field.
Yes, as stated above.

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Spherics are the guys with the Mobius Loop TPU aren't they, which would seem to be a variation on SM's unit.
No. I was referring to the "Complete information on working SM style device" thread here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4297.0

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Are most people thinking along the lines that it is the back EMF from a fast decaying pulse to the control coils that gives the kick in the collector coil? And that at the correct frequencies this kick becomes enormous?
I do not know what most people are thinking regarding this. That paragraph alone has the potential to open at least 4 cans of worms.

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Is it in fact a mini particle accelerator??
Good question. I will ask this: what is meant by "particle" in this case?

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Sorry so many questions, I'm just trying to pin down a few basics and understand what I am trying to achieve rather than blindly going about a build.
As we all are...hopefully ;)

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Re: New TPU build
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Offline Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2009, 06:24:53 PM »
Thanks P99

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Good question. I will ask this: what is meant by "particle" in this case?

I was thinking electrons.

Blimey, I had no idea so little had been established. I had assumed I'd have a little more to go on - this is going to be far more hit and miss than I was expecting.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2009, 06:36:44 PM »
Thanks P99

I was thinking electrons.
Can conduction electrons in copper be greatly accelerated? Generally, particles that are accelerated are in terms of some type of plasma, either pure electrons as in those boiled off a vacuum tube cathode, or charged particles used in cyclotrons etc. Is the TPU "boiling off" electrons from the collector or controls perhaps? Good question again. Some people think so.

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Blimey, I had no idea so little had been established. I had assumed I'd have a little more to go on - this is going to be far more hit and miss than I was expecting.
There are some people that will tell you that much has indeed been "established". Established as fact? Probably not. Take in all "information" with caution, is my advice to you.

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Re: New TPU build
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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2009, 06:47:20 PM »
@P99

'Scepticism' is my middle name, nevertheless I'm always prepared to stay open-minded on these things.

With reference to the particle acceleration statement, I was thinking that as the voltage rose, the electrons in the collector would so increase in velocity... but of course I was only speculating anyway.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2009, 07:43:31 PM »
Half way down the page you can get Patrick Kelly's take on the TPU

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter5.pdf

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2009, 09:55:39 PM »
Half way down the page you can get Patrick Kelly's take on the TPU

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter5.pdf

Chet

There was video of a presentation (can't remember the name or where) which supposedly showed a circuit using a certain component which harnessed the radiant energy bursts.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2009, 10:31:02 PM »
Asymatrix
That would be nice to remember!
Here are some vids
I do seem to remember Jason building and videoing a tpu[not sure it was him]
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4486.msg89361.html#msg89361

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2009, 10:52:03 PM »
@P99

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Can conduction electrons in copper be greatly accelerated?

Does not an increase in voltage increase the velocity of electrons?  I know they move relatively slowly, but I remember seeing a figure of just 3 inches per hour at 240V somewhere - so surely the velocity is voltage related.

I think this is more likely that higher voltage induces electrons to move faster, rather than simply inducing more electrons to move... though I could be wrong.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2009, 04:35:46 AM »
Increased voltage results in increased electron drift velocity VD, which is typically quite slow.

The number of electrons flowing in parallel is influenced by the cross-sectional area of the conductor.

Besides physical dimension, what else affects the effective cross-sectional area of a conductor?

What does this imply for DC, AC and sharp transient inputs?

If there are implications, how does it affect drift velocity, if at all?

Would it be possible to achieve VD=c ?

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