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Author Topic: Mylow Motor was a fake  (Read 114875 times)

TinselKoala

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #195 on: May 23, 2009, 06:38:52 PM »
@ Sterling:

"I don't see the justification for a refund?"  (Sterling Allen)

Gee, you sold plans for a WORKING MAGNET MOTOR that was later proved to be faked by the guys on overunity.com.  Yes, the same guys you condemned for speaking against this "working" device.....those guys.

And now, the entire world knows it is faked, and you still are selling plans (or trying to) for a "WORKING MAGNETIC MOTOR"  I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that.  Perhaps you should look up the word "FRAUD" and read the definition sometime.

I hope folks sue the living crap out of you.  They will prevail in court, trust me.

Bill

Still up on his site. The videos cited are proven frauds, and the plans DO NOT include details of the fishing-line drive. Therefore, lock and load--Sterling is selling plans, endorsed by Mylow, for a claimed working magnet motor. Here it is right in front of you, saved I hope for posterity forever.

TinselKoala

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #196 on: May 23, 2009, 06:41:43 PM »
And just in case, FWIW, here's the result of running a weight, not even as heavy, as the magnets on his unbalanced disk, with a slightly loose drive line (stepper motor; a commutated motor's trace may be slightly different--in the direction of more pronounced sinusoid from the weight.)


EDIT: see those three spikes on each early runup? I figured out what those are: they are the knot on the black thread, as it goes through the red v-pulley. The rest of the time the line is a slight bit looser.
Once the rotor speeds up a little inertia smooths out the motion, and the knot isn't in contact with the pulley long enough for the signature to show.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2009, 08:45:08 PM by TinselKoala »

TinselKoala

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #197 on: May 23, 2009, 06:43:44 PM »
I completely agree, he did trash his credibility for it, but people will soon forget, and maybe we are wrong and NSA did visit mylow.

now the conspiracy theory here on this one is that it worked but he had to cover it up so that MIB gets off his back.

so all you people with magnets and crazy glue.. keep shifting those magnets around.  A tip for super/Crazy Glue.  Weak shear strength first off, second you can dissolve it with acetone (nail polish remover).  Also great for clean up if you pen explodes in your pocket.

I tried your great trick to get ink out of my pocket. Now my shirt is CrazyGlued to my chest. Thanks a lot.

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Re: Mylow Motor, and TinselKoala was a fake
« Reply #198 on: May 23, 2009, 07:00:28 PM »
I tried your great trick to get ink out of my pocket. Now my shirt is CrazyGlued to my chest. Thanks a lot.

I have to expose you as a fraud. If you used both CrazyGlue and Acetone on your shirt you would not be stuck together. You must of used fishing line to get your finger stuck to the shirt! 

Correction to my previous post, use Acetone to Blot out Ink Stains with a paper towel, and if you use Nail Polish Remover, make sure it is the kind with Acetone.


RunningBare

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #199 on: May 23, 2009, 09:02:07 PM »
Mylow has certainly been an inspiration to many.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzC4TrPHkzg

TinselKoala

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #200 on: May 24, 2009, 05:12:13 PM »
Well, Wattsup is threatening to lock the other threads dealing with this topic, so I hope there is still one where facts can be debated honestly.

In Vid # 6:  First off, I can show, IF NECESSARY, that it is relatively easy to lift off the stator mount with the fising line running through the hole, to the extent that Mylow does in this vid, without disturbing the drive system.
Second, in the closeups leading up to 2:25 I think I can see the line in several places, and at just about 2:25 I think I see the knot in the line coming through the hole.
I'm working with the YT posts though. Is there anyone who has the original of this vid, to take a closer look?
I believe that shadow on the paper is when he moved the rotor base over slightly to tighten the line.

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #201 on: May 24, 2009, 05:16:43 PM »
A little more research from Sterling D.Allan could have proven,
that it was not Mylow meeting with Vice president Biden:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3481225963/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3481225835/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3482033008/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3481220781/sizes/o/

Definately not Mylow !


It is just a worker from this glas window factory from Chicago.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #202 on: May 24, 2009, 05:24:57 PM »
A little more research from Sterling D.Allan could have proven,
that it was not Mylow meeting with Vice president Biden:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3481225963/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3481225835/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3482033008/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3481220781/sizes/o/

Definately not Mylow !


It is just a worker from this glas window factory from Chicago.

Regards, Stefan.


http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mylow_magmo/message/1739

Sterlings post on the congressman's confirmation of nsa involvement turns out to be a he said/she said.
Sterling never talked to the secretary

lostcauses10x

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #203 on: May 24, 2009, 05:36:17 PM »
TK and all: it will no longer mater what proof is given or shown. folks will believe as they did prior to proof and confession.

Sterling D.Allan duped himself with shoddy information. His desire to believe, and or sell plans, or both could be reasons.

 I think TK said it best.
They will believe the fakes are fakes.  (or in my words they believe the fakes are for deception). LOL


 As for folks still going and trying to replicate it. Well it will be a good learning experiencing for them. On that we should encourage them. Of course I hope they are not true believers. Such will lead to great disappointment.

Pirate88179

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #204 on: May 24, 2009, 05:46:47 PM »
A little more research from Sterling D.Allan could have proven,
that it was not Mylow meeting with Vice president Biden:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3481225963/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3481225835/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3482033008/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3481220781/sizes/o/

Definately not Mylow !


It is just a worker from this glas window factory from Chicago.

Regards, Stefan.

Great research Stefan.  That was just another part of this story that was not credible to me.  It didn't make any sense.  IF there was an attempt at suppression or cover-up (which I believe there was not) you would not send someone as recognizable as the VP and also allow a photo-op.  This would be terrible trade craft indeed.

I get the feeling that Sterling didn't want to research this story too hard as he was afraid of what he might find.  The truth in this case was not a really good sales tool for him.

I am really proud of the work done by the overunity.com guys on busting this device. (devices?)  They deserve all of the credit for it and they did the FE community a big favor by doing so.

Bill

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #205 on: May 24, 2009, 05:51:40 PM »
Well I for one don't believe the fakes are fake. TK and a few others have done an excellent job on exposing the truth. But before I can totally forget about the stone hedge model vid #6, I just want conclusive evidence. I've looked in great detail over and over again for a string, but I can't see it. I don't understand why mylow had to tighten the disk to get the slack out? The disk was spinning just fine. If anything I'm inclined to believe the disk was spun by hand.

The Nephew

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #206 on: May 24, 2009, 05:58:02 PM »
A little more research from Sterling D.Allan could have proven,
that it was not Mylow meeting with Vice president Biden:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3481225963/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3481225835/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3482033008/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriousmaterials/3481220781/sizes/o/

Definately not Mylow !


It is just a worker from this glas window factory from Chicago.

Regards, Stefan.


Just a picture comparison tells everything.

See the attached picture:


lostcauses10x

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #207 on: May 24, 2009, 06:51:26 PM »
hartiberlin
What can one say in all of this.
You after the fact show how easy it is, yet such was questioned and believed as proof of claims.

 It still  comes down to the simple question of claims that go against the norm. How can such be properly verified.

 It is the age old problem of shown what one may take, as this is happening; when some thing else entirely is really going on.

 I have some strange Ideas I need to play with, yet of course such does not use just one force of implementing motion. To say they would work, LOL I am not that brave, yet such as all of this is fun , and some were I do have hopes some useful devices can come from such.

 If folks only new how many times I have seen similar variations of stuff in the OU FE game, and of course so many variations of explanations of why, when of course it never does, ( A few that still have me confused, I still think about)  that are out there. The desire to believe is a human thing that tends to out weigh the facts.

 I for one, sure hope some one comes up with such as a device or devises that can free up the individual from them pay out for energy to the corporations.

 For all I hope everyone will keep looking and work at such a goal.
I just ask folks to think a lot before jumping into believing what is claimed and shown.

 I am one that is a bit of a paradox.  I want to believe, yet have not see much to believe.

 When I looked at what went on with this one I see the same thing I have done in the past.
1; Hope it is real
2: Desire and atempt to find out the information for replication.
3; anylise before building, wich has two questions for me. (Note on the Mylow this killed any possible replication from me. No way i could find it could have worked.)
3A: can I learn from such.
3B: what is the reason the claim given might work? Note if I can not see any reason it should work, or some thing to learn I do NOT replicate.

Folks believed, and sought out from the statements that should have said, WHAT A MINUIT SOME THING IS WRONG; and found excuses to continue to believe.

LOL they do not call us folks that dabble in this stuff cultist for no reason.
This fiasco shows just how much of a cult attitude is involved with this.

 A man that could not even say what his magnet polarity were, all up or otherwise in his original video, going to NSA folks taking it away,etc.
He even confess to faked, and folks still want to believe.  Proof of how it was faked has been shown, and folks still want to believe.

 A cult mentality in the FE ou world. Oh yes such exists. It is very real and Mylow and Sterling D.Allan has proven this beyond any doubt.  LOL the FE OU world should live by a simple rule. "Don't drink the kool aid."
A lot sure drank it in this one.
 

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #208 on: May 24, 2009, 06:55:04 PM »
Well I for one don't believe the fakes are fake. TK and a few others have done an excellent job on exposing the truth. But before I can totally forget about the stone hedge model vid #6, I just want conclusive evidence. I've looked in great detail over and over again for a string, but I can't see it. I don't understand why mylow had to tighten the disk to get the slack out? The disk was spinning just fine. If anything I'm inclined to believe the disk was spun by hand.

The Nephew

Even with HQ, the strings are hard to spot.  That is by design - you are not supposed to see the strings.

TinselKoala

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #209 on: May 24, 2009, 07:10:54 PM »
I can see the line, I think, in several places in that vid, even on the YT version. When he's showing the stator magnet up close you can see the hole in several places and I think I can see the line there, even once it looks like the knot might be passing.

Re hole in stator mount:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpsdbZwp-k4

BNow, consider the effect of those mysterious flats on the rotor mount near the top. If the fishing line ran over those flats, rather than lower down--what might that do to line slippage, acceleration profiles, hand manipulations--etc.
I think that this vid shows a combination of an attempted fishing line drive that didn't work so well, and the occasional visit with Mr. Hand.
A slipping line slips less so as the rotation speed of the rotor increases. The line might slip totally providing no thrust when the disk is slow or stopped, but if Mr. Hand gives it a push the line could take over.

(The more I know, the less I believe. And the less need there is to believe.)