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Author Topic: Mylow Motor was a fake  (Read 86327 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Mylow Motor was a fake
« on: May 20, 2009, 01:43:27 PM »
Hi All,
I was 3 days away and boy what did I miss.

After catching up with all the latest videos of the Mylow thread,
finally some people have seen the fishing lines in the Mylow Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw-8YJvicrw

Well, it is said, how we are scammed from "scammers" like
this José guy.

So how should we handle this kind of scams in the future ?

Should we now post full name and address details of José ( Mylow)
to scare other scammsters away ?

I think José needs to be punished in some way to have been
doing this scam to us.

Also as I have played in the past with Howard Johnson setups
and saw, that just magnets alone never will work, if you don´t have any iron
cores in it.
See my 90 degres iron core pieces advantage video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5mYm5nO5Fw


Well, I could also not understand how Sterling D. Allan could fall
so badly for this scam and also made a lot of money out of it...

I wonder, if he will pay back the money to all the people who
bought the plans...

So what are your thoughts of it and how should it be handled
now ?

Should we publish José´s real name and address ?

Regards, Stefan.

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Mylow Motor was a fake
« on: May 20, 2009, 01:43:27 PM »

Offline jibbguy

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2009, 02:12:24 PM »
I wouldn't. It could possibly open you up for legal concerns that you don't need, m8. Here's the scenario:

Some idiot here goes to mylow's house and harasses him in person (maybe even physically threatens or hurts him). His REAL lawyer then names you in a civil suit.

Remember that this guy, no matter what a faker he is, didn't actually DO anything from a legal standpoint to anyone here, and he covered himself by actually ADMITTING to fakery, then cleverly got Sterling to retract for him so he didn't have to personally (twice lol).

As bad as the current situation is for the community, having some moron go out for imagined vengeance against mylow is even worse.

And there is still the question if that address is even real or not. It may not be.

And there is the VERY SLIM, yet undeniably possible, scenario that some believe regarding the early vids being "real", and that the MIB's "took over" and "made him do it". I admit that may sound absurd... But so does every thing else about this. 

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2009, 02:27:49 PM »
Stefan,

No I don't think you should publish his personal information, nor do anything in an attempt to punish Mylow.

Really, the onus is on the audience, US that is. We have to be skeptical if sufficient proof is not provided, and this goes for those making similar ou claims with conventional electronics circuits as well.

If the claimant does not provide sufficient evidence of authenticity, then they should be dismissed by this community. That is the best punishment for anyone making false or unsubstantiated claims, such as Mylow and others have done in the past. If they lose their captive audience, they will go away. If their device is real, they will make the effort to prove it.

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2009, 02:44:21 PM »
I think it will be safe to say poor Sterling, although he is a cause of much of the hype. I did chuckle when he mentioned MyLow might have a mental disorder in his latest blurb. I believe some honourable others (no names mentioned ;) ) may have similar disorders.

quick question, does OU.com expect a formal apology from Sterling ?

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2009, 02:52:39 PM »
Well, it is said, how we are scammed from "scammers" like
this José guy.

So how should we handle this kind of scams in the future ?

Regards, Stefan.
We could start by accepting that videos from people other than those we know and trust are not worth a piss in a bucket.

Do we really believe that the Death Star actually did blow up the planet Alderaan because we saw this in a video? Videos mean nothing.

We should not give space on this board to those who do not wish to supply technical drawings and specifications.

Paul.

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Offline nyctuber

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2009, 02:54:49 PM »
Seriously, do NOT publish his name and address.

Offline ramset

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2009, 03:03:22 PM »
Stefan,

No I don't think you should publish his personal information, nor do anything in an attempt to punish Mylow.

Really, the onus is on the audience, US that is. We have to be skeptical if sufficient proof is not provided, and this goes for those making similar ou claims with conventional electronics circuits as well.

If the claimant does not provide sufficient evidence of authenticity, then they should be dismissed by this community. That is the best punishment for anyone making false or unsubstantiated claims, such as Mylow and others have done in the past. If they lose their captive audience, they will go away. If their device is real, they will make the effort to prove it.

.99

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Offline Bobbotov

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2009, 03:09:21 PM »
I think publishing personal information about Mylow is not a prudent idea. I see no reason to punish the man other than the public humiliation he is already receiving. Is vengeance appropriate? I don't think so. And how would that help anything except feed people's schadenfreude and possibly cause a tragedy no one wants. The best thing is to let it die and move on but learn from the experience.

The lesson learned has to be that the scientific method of verification, falsification and replication are the best tools to ensure that the claimant is offering something worthy of consideration in a professional manner. I think that the burden of proof always rests with the claimant and if ever you see them balk at any aspect of conforming to the scientific method then that should send red flags up immediately. A lot of people spent good money on the materials necessary to replicate and others may have spent a good deal of time and possibly money to disprove it.

When someone wants to fool people it shows their deep disrespect for those people who trust what they are being told is true. It should take a long time to build trust and as Mylow found out a very short time to lose it. But to go on a witch hunt for Mylow is completely unnecessary and counter productive to good science.

I think demanding verification from the beginning is the best way to avoid the inertia of a scam or hoax. As Mylow demurred from allowing someone to inspect his set up then attention should have been turned away until such time as inspection was allowed. Once that was done then the process of replication could have occurred with the aim to falsify the data so that the only possible answer as to why it works is true.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2009, 03:15:37 PM »
Stefan

It makes me happy that you are asking before doing. That's important.
IMHO, absolutely not. A violation of the forum's confidentiality for anything other than criminal reasons would only reflect poorly on the forum.
Mylow will receive his just rewards, in this life or in another, so I'm not worried about him.

The replication prize, now...
that's a different story. That's mine and I want it.

Regards, TK

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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2009, 03:23:35 PM »
Okay, I think you all are right and I will not publish his real name
and address.

Well, here is another video showing the fishing lines:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLLSUV6rNPo

and here in the original video from 8:08 to 8:13 you can
also see it easily:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNwhZH8zGD0

Also TinselKoala has shown it very well in his videos,
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TinselKoala&view=videos
how Mylow did it.
I also think, Sterling should pay him the prize
or donate it to charity and post the charity receipt.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2009, 03:28:39 PM »
Did Sterling D. Allan also met the guy from Perendev? ::)


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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2009, 03:31:39 PM »
So basically Mylow admitted it already in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44ytKdyDA3A

but he did not yet tell, that he used a fishing line for
the connection between the motor and the aludisk shaft.

Offline AquariuZ

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2009, 03:31:44 PM »
Video #6 people.

Beware the GUMCT: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7480.0

Stefan, no exposure warrented or required, just take another look at the original setup in #6

I think it works, despite everything we are being told.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpQA5c9guvE&feature=channel_page

Untill this video is proven a clear fake, I am still continuing to try replicating this setup.

Count on it.

AZ

Offline nyctuber

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2009, 03:31:57 PM »
Watch the hi res (just for sh*ts and giggles)

http://www.filesavr.com/m2u00176may3glasstablesecond

Offline Bobbotov

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2009, 03:44:43 PM »
So basically Mylow admitted it already in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44ytKdyDA3A

but he did not yet tell, that he used a fishing line for
the connection between the motor and the aludisk shaft.

Mylow obviously has some real issues he needs to address if he wants to become a decent human being. He besmirched the name of HJ under the guise of glorifying him. He took advantage of people's trust by lying to them. And he used seeming sincerity to further the deception. It's an old story. Using a partial truth about how he did it to discredit the skeptics is really arrogant.

Who knows what his motivations really were. We can only question our own in allowing him to get so far so fast.

I just hope that it is understood that dissenting voices are not noise but in fact are necessary to reveal the one true signal.

 

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