Author Topic: Mylow Motor was a fake (Read 114858 times)

tagor · « **Reply #180 on:** May 23, 2009, 07:22:03 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 23, 2009, 05:38:45 AM

@ Sterling:

"I don't see the justification for a refund?" (Sterling Allen)

Gee, you sold plans for a WORKING MAGNET MOTOR that was later proved to be faked by the guys on overunity.com. Yes, the same guys you condemned for speaking against this "working" device.....those guys.

And now, the entire world knows it is faked, and you still are selling plans (or trying to) for a "WORKING MAGNETIC MOTOR" I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that. Perhaps you should look up the word "FRAUD" and read the definition sometime.

I hope folks sue the living crap out of you. They will prevail in court, trust me.

Bill

hello Bill

sterling puts some links to a man who is selling plans of craps that does not work ...

so I think he wants to do the same thing ?

rMuD · « **Reply #181 on:** May 23, 2009, 07:24:00 AM »

Quote from: nyctuber on May 23, 2009, 07:00:19 AM

He wanted to believe. I've seen far worse people than Sterling Allan, and by all estimations he hasn't made a dime off this. It all went to magnets for Mylow and plane trips.

I completely agree, he did trash his credibility for it, but people will soon forget, and maybe we are wrong and NSA did visit mylow.

now the conspiracy theory here on this one is that it worked but he had to cover it up so that MIB gets off his back.

so all you people with magnets and crazy glue.. keep shifting those magnets around. A tip for super/Crazy Glue. Weak shear strength first off, second you can dissolve it with acetone (nail polish remover). Also great for clean up if you pen explodes in your pocket.

RunningBare · « **Reply #182 on:** May 23, 2009, 07:33:11 AM »

Quote from: rMuD on May 23, 2009, 07:24:00 AM

I completely agree, he did trash his credibility for it, but people will soon forget, and maybe we are wrong and NSA did visit mylow.

now the conspiracy theory here on this one is that it worked but he had to cover it up so that MIB gets off his back.

Just thought I'd highlight this here for you, you are obviously a person who prefers details.

Quote

@ Chase
@ all replicators

In the very first movie i wondered why Mylow always moved the rotor plate to
approach the stator ..
it seemed much more logical to move the stator support instead.

Just didn't make any sense ..

Neither did the two holes one in each stator support ..
but it didn't seem to important back then either.

Then he got caught with the fishing line .. and it became clear and
EASY to see why Mylow moved the rotor plate and NOT THE STATOR ..

SOME still seem to believe that maybe the first movies were true !

Consider:

In the fakes He moves the rotor plate so as to tighten the fishing line onto the
rotor spindle supplying enough traction pressure to cause the disk to slowly
accelerate .. Moving the stator support would NOT serve to tighten the fishing
line.

AND

in the VERY FIRST movie he ALSO starts the motor by moving the rotor plate ..
tightening the fishing line on the rotor spindle are we ? ?

To me that demonstrates that MYLOW never discovered anything - he has been lying
all the time.

His very first movies were faked the same way as the last ones the string is
just less obvious and apparent in those first ones.

he starts all the fakes spinning in exactly the same way ! !

The first movie stator supports have the two holes to pass the fishing line
under the
plate to run the rotor.

What Mylow has done to Sterling and to Howard Johnson's name in all of this is
just plain despicable hurtful and mean..

IMO he deserves all the bad KARMA that he gets as a result of his actions . .

Queue

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #183 on:** May 23, 2009, 07:37:40 AM »

Quote from: tagor on May 23, 2009, 07:22:03 AM

hello Bill

sterling puts some links to a man who is selling plans of craps that does not work ...

so I think he want to do the same thing ?

tagor:

To me, it is all in the wording. If he sold plans to a "possible" working device, that is different. If others sell plans to some device that "some claim" to work, that too is different. (to me anyway) When someone sells plans to "A working magnetic motor" that is another story.

My main beef with Sterling is exactly this. If he had only said..."Hey, we got this guy Mylow that shows a possible working motor that has not been independently verified yet, but I think it shows real promise as the videos are very convincing. Here are the plans. Let's see what happens with verification and replication."

If he had taken that, or a similar approach, I would have no problem at all. Maybe most folks would have bought them anyway....who knows? Now, we will never know.

Sticking up for Mylow, sending him magnets, flying out there to attempt to verify the device, these were all intended by Sterling to validate this device. These were good things. It is only the pretense that these plans were offered for sale that I have a complaint about. And no, I did not buy any so I am not out any money. I just believe that this type of behavior gives the OU/FE community yet another black mark.

This is my only beef with Sterling. Well, he also was very biased on his "reporting" of events and blasted us over here on Overunity.com. That would not bother me so much IF he did not stand to profit from the sales of these plans based upon his false and biased reporting. This is a conflict of interests plain and simple. I know it takes money to do what Sterling does and it has to come from somewhere and I have no problem with that. I used to think he did a lot of good in the Fe community. But now, I don't think so any more.

Bill

RunningBare · « **Reply #184 on:** May 23, 2009, 07:51:56 AM »

I'd have to agree, I cannot help thinking of Sterling as a used car salesman, while I admit I already saw Peswiki as whacky for the most part, it still had some interesting things about it, but it's turned into a sideshow of snake oil, I know some of you here do not like that term, but please do not stone me yet, it is presently the only way I can see it.

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 23, 2009, 07:37:40 AM

This is my only beef with Sterling. Well, he also was very biased on his "reporting" of events and blasted us over here on Overunity.com. That would not bother me so much IF he did not stand to profit from the sales of these plans based upon his false and biased reporting. This is a conflict of interests plain and simple. I know it takes money to do what Sterling does and it has to come from somewhere and I have no problem with that. I used to think he did a lot of good in the Fe community. But now, I don't think so any more.

Bill

tagor · « **Reply #185 on:** May 23, 2009, 07:53:04 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 23, 2009, 07:37:40 AM

Well, he also was very biased on his "reporting" of events and blasted us over here on Overunity.com. That would not bother me so much IF he did not stand to profit from the sales of these plans based upon his false and biased reporting. This is a conflict of interests plain and simple.

Bill

this is a big problem for him

daniel

RunningBare · « **Reply #186 on:** May 23, 2009, 07:59:25 AM »

You know what would make that problem go away fairly quickly?
Sterling standing up and saying to the group(I use that term to encompass this forum, yahoo groups, all) that he was fooled from the beginning, then removing all materials containing anything to do with Mylow from peswiki, keep the open source stuff sure, but stop selling, I am sure he will have the backing and respect of the largest majority of the FE group if he does this.

Quote from: tagor on May 23, 2009, 07:53:04 AM

Bill

this is a big problem for him

daniel

RunningBare · « **Reply #187 on:** May 23, 2009, 08:08:17 AM »

I had assumed that people wanted this all to end and not draw anymore attention so that they can move forward with replication?
http://pesn.com/2009/04/06/9501538_Mylow_Magnet_Motor_not_fake/

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #188 on:** May 23, 2009, 08:13:43 AM »

Quote from: RunningBare on May 23, 2009, 08:08:17 AM

I had assumed that people wanted this all to end and not draw anymore attention so that they can move forward with replication?
http://pesn.com/2009/04/06/9501538_Mylow_Magnet_Motor_not_fake/

RB:

Geeze, talk about beating a dead horse. What is Sterling thinking here?
Thanks for posting this. I have no idea what might be behind this but.....man.

Bill

tagor · « **Reply #189 on:** May 23, 2009, 08:13:47 AM »

Quote from: RunningBare on May 23, 2009, 07:59:25 AM

You know what would make that problem go away fairly quickly?
Sterling standing up and saying to the group(I use that term to encompass this forum, yahoo groups, all) that he was fooled from the beginning, then removing all materials containing anything to do with Mylow from peswiki, keep the open source stuff sure, but stop selling, I am sure he will have the backing and respect of the largest majority of the FE group if he does this.

RB

I agree with that

daniel

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #190 on:** May 23, 2009, 08:16:32 AM »

Quote from: RunningBare on May 23, 2009, 07:59:25 AM

You know what would make that problem go away fairly quickly?
Sterling standing up and saying to the group(I use that term to encompass this forum, yahoo groups, all) that he was fooled from the beginning, then removing all materials containing anything to do with Mylow from peswiki, keep the open source stuff sure, but stop selling, I am sure he will have the backing and respect of the largest majority of the FE group if he does this.

RB:

Evidently this is a big "IF".

Bill ***EDIT*** I added the bold to RB's word "if" above.

RunningBare · « **Reply #191 on:** May 23, 2009, 08:19:07 AM »

In hindsight, it sure is a big if now.

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 23, 2009, 08:16:32 AM

RB:

Evidently this is a big "IF".

Bill ***EDIT*** I added the bold to RB's word "if" above.

Digjam · « **Reply #192 on:** May 23, 2009, 09:01:15 AM »

Quote from: RunningBare on May 23, 2009, 08:08:17 AM

I had assumed that people wanted this all to end and not draw anymore attention so that they can move forward with replication?
http://pesn.com/2009/04/06/9501538_Mylow_Magnet_Motor_not_fake/

It should be noted the date of the above report..
someone just dug it up from the past.

Not that I am sticking up for Sterling.
But in the search for truth, accuracy matters

capthook · « **Reply #193 on:** May 23, 2009, 09:06:05 AM »

No matter how much PROOF is provided that the whole fiasco was a TOTAL HOAX - with all points considered even a blind man would see - there are still many who will BELIEVE no matter.
So there will always be a market for nonsense!

I'm torn on the Sterling issue. He HAS provided alot of interesting information over the years.... but this latest turn has lead to a (crushing) dead end.
With that in mind, even given his absurd behavior of late, I'm willing to cut him some slack. (but he has shown he is a bit off the deep end at times: crop circles, MIB etc)

BUT, how many times, early on, was he told - you are out of your mind to fully support this with such zeal until VERIFIED.

We can only hope that this lesson will sink in for ALL.....

RunningBare · « **Reply #194 on:** May 23, 2009, 09:16:22 AM »

As I just responded to another poster on another forum, I am aware of the date, it's in the url/link but it is still displayed on Peswiki.

Quote from: Digjam on May 23, 2009, 09:01:15 AM

It should be noted the date of the above report..
someone just dug it up from the past.

Not that I am sticking up for Sterling.
But in the search for truth, accuracy matters

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