Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1242987 times)

turbo · « **Reply #2565 on:** July 22, 2007, 07:48:57 AM »

Yes Mannix, the saturation of the core is diffrent in one way then it is in the other,and this is due to the external magnetic influence of the field that is already present from the earth or in a tpu generated by the coils around.
this is the basic operating principle of a magnetometer.
you saturate in two directions and then you demodulate so the only resulting output is that external magnetic field.

As you might know you need 3 of them to measure the complete external field.

M.

PS. i believe theze "center torroids" are bifilar wond coils.
i have also experimented with these having 4 coils.
and offcourse last week with the transformers in the video.
needles to say the center torroids in the tpu could be air cored which does not saturate ,so then we have a diffrent situation.

BEP · « **Reply #2566 on:** July 22, 2007, 08:49:41 AM »

Since this is the main thread:

Has anyone consider using a von der Pol oscillator for the third pulse (frequency?)?

It isn't useful if you want to stomp the neighbor's stereo but it might be needed to have a continuous effect.
Once the little critters are organized they probably won't stay that way unless they have the proper beat to make then stay organized.

This would follow many posted lab reports for generation of power by magnitudes and should meet the Sm description of 'variable tuning'.

I did a search and didn't see it.

If useful then it should probably be referenced off of the second frequency.

Motorcoach1 · « **Reply #2567 on:** July 23, 2007, 01:43:39 AM »

I've had some time to work on my Tpu it's a modafied version of Ott's set up and now crossing back over to the SM type windings. If you notice in the photo the coaxl cable is inside the aluminum tube, this was quite diffacult to do with all the support plexi holding evrything in place. now the pain stakeing part of winding the coils , 3 each on , the rings. I will be testing with a cascade circut and then a duel transformer circut, and a sequential 5 to 10 hrz timer circut. what I'm looking for is takeing the secondaries and and sequence them in order and see the results of the test and speed it up useing 2 frequencies. I've read so much now i'll try it and see what the out come will be. It may not be over unity but I'm sure that i will be able to create a higher output on the finals. The small test I have done gave good results so i'll take the best of the winding and put them to work on this unit. Yes Dr Mark S. is correct neatness counts so i'm takeing my time in the winding of the primarys and secondaries. hahahaha @BEP I need one of those Vander Pol occilators , might help in the rolling boom boxes going up and down the street ,

If there are any suggestion , -much apprciated . Mike

Bruce_TPU · « **Reply #2568 on:** July 23, 2007, 04:15:14 AM »

It's looking great, Mike!

Keep us posted!

Warm regards,
Bruce

margiemirage · « **Reply #2569 on:** July 24, 2007, 05:47:26 AM »

I have a feeling that this device is the real deal, call it healthy optimism.
What boggles me though is why a seemingly intelligent person like Mark, knowing about the billion dollar oil interests and how they can cover-up competition since they "have the world governments in their pockets", sells the invention to some lawyer instead of giving the technology to the masses before it was buried by the greedy oil bastards. Ten years ago, the internet wasn't what it is today. But NOW he could do it. Why not share it with as many people as possible. There's power in numbers. It's bad enough that the Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank with no reserves and that the big bankers have been stealing our money through the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on a nation called Income Tax, which btw is unconstitutional. But now we can't even have this? Just lowers his cred me thinks, especially when he brings God and mission into the picture. But hey, I don't have anything to lose by hoping. Good luck Steven and God Speed to ya.
-Margie

ronotte · « **Reply #2570 on:** July 24, 2007, 02:11:38 PM »

@Mike,

wonderful approach!
WELL DONE

I tried it several time but never succeed due to mechanical problems! I wonder if you would be so nice to explain us how you formed the Al rings and slided into the coax (without braid I understand').

Please let me know about your progress.

I used flat CCs around Al annular rings to take advantage of the two sides wings (particles speed increase) and got interesting results (4 Seeds instead of one ..with only one coil/1 freq applied). It will be useful to make when possible a comparison with your design as in your case all the particles will be trapped inside the Al hoose and...accelerated.

Roberto

Motorcoach1 · « **Reply #2571 on:** July 24, 2007, 07:46:42 PM »

@ RonotteÃ‚Â this was difficult at first then found the aluminum rings in the bath section at Home depot they are bath towle holdersÃ‚Â

the coaxl is rgb58 and it does have the brade and insulatin with core. It's a very tight fit and just a lot of pacients pushing it through the tube. the hardest part is getting everything alinged so as not to pinch the coax and keeping everything tight.Ã‚Â you might want to assit me in the winding next that would be apprciated.Ã‚Â After the coax is threaded then I bolted it down last to help in the structure , now it's ridged.Ã‚Â Ã‚Â thank you MikeÃ‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Tolerence is everything so in the ring everything is uniform to size and shape.

giantkiller · « **Reply #2572 on:** July 24, 2007, 08:52:31 PM »

Quote from: margiemirage on July 24, 2007, 05:47:26 AM

I have a feeling that this device is the real deal, call it healthy optimism.
What boggles me though is why a seemingly intelligent person like Mark, knowing about the billion dollar oil interests and how they can cover-up competition since they "have the world governments in their pockets", sells the invention to some lawyer instead of giving the technology to the masses before it was buried by the greedy oil bastards. Ten years ago, the internet wasn't what it is today. But NOW he could do it. Why not share it with as many people as possible. There's power in numbers. It's bad enough that the Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank with no reserves and that the big bankers have been stealing our money through the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on a nation called Income Tax, which btw is unconstitutional. But now we can't even have this? Just lowers his cred me thinks, especially when he brings God and mission into the picture. But hey, I don't have anything to lose by hoping. Good luck Steven and God Speed to ya.
-Margie

1996 was prior to the tech wreck. There were people vieing to get their retirements pumped up from the failed oil debacles of late 80s. Technology was still the panacea of the new age. This was the age of fat money and once again no boundaries. I was offered alot of money for what I do and refused. Other people's money. The question that I have always had and has not been addressed in any manner is: If you were involved in this or saw this then what would you be doing now? Who are all those other people in the videos? Do you think those people just upt and died?

--giantkiller. What is truely under the covers and at stake here?

Motorcoach1 · « **Reply #2573 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:18:46 AM »

Gerogr toborie died at the age of 93 in berlin i beleve great play wright and insprantionist

ronotte · « **Reply #2574 on:** July 25, 2007, 11:47:46 AM »

Hi Mike,

for CC winding there are actually two philosphies:

1 - From Otto which says that bobbined type is easier & gives better results. well I tested the bobbin way and found good results as per Otto's indications. ATTENTION: the bobbin MUST be wing shaped as per his dranwings!.

2 - From others which say that flat type is better as the coil is for this case 'like a transmission line' (if I remember well) and in this way there is more 'collector covering'. I say also that if you are planning to implement a rot mag field then the flat kind is almost mandatory as you must cover all the collector (in other words the 3 or 4 needed coils must be set one near the other).

At the moment I'm experimenting with flat coils...but for the moment I can say that I don't see better operations!.

Roberto

Jdo300 · « **Reply #2575 on:** July 27, 2007, 09:13:40 PM »

Hello All,

I just thought I would pop up for a bit to give you some new (and hopefully helpful) information to assist you in your TPU experiments. I've written an article titled "Phase Relationships and Harmonics in the
Steven Mark Toroidal Power Unit" which will help us to understand how short pulses, out of phase transformers, and harmonics all contribute to the effects exhibited by the TPU. This document is by no means complete or the authoritative explanation but it is based on some recent experiments I have performed. Comments welcome

.

God Bless,
Jason O

BEP · « **Reply #2576 on:** July 28, 2007, 03:32:41 AM »

@Jason,
Thanks.

This reminds me of emegency power plant problems. When paralleling two or more 3 phase generators to a bus the neutral connections were always a major concern. As long as the generators were matched (same sine shape and 1/4 wave width) there was only a concern of matching voltage and phase. As long as those two were good little neutral current would flow - unless the load was unbalanced.

When two different name-brand sets were working together sine shape and 1/4 wave width was so much a concern that sometimes the neutral link had to be disconnected to prevent cross current. Cross current detracted from the load handling performance. This was usually because during manufacture the stator windings were not wound at the same pitch.

As for harmonics: I used to perform Mil standard 705B and C testing of power plants. Harmonic value recording was one of many tests. For a 60Hz system you would expect the second to be 120 and the third to be 180. They were not. The second was usually around 108 and the third about 195. There were components at 120 and 180 but were very small compared to the others.
On systems that had unusually high voltage harmonics the voltage between neutral and ground could easily exceed 200VDC with a heavy AC component. This would be on a 3 phase 480/277 WYE 60Hz generator. A generator with these results would have failed the military standard testing and be rejected.

Jdo300 · « **Reply #2577 on:** July 28, 2007, 04:25:41 AM »

Hi BEP,

Thanks for sharing that info with me! One thing I'm wondering is if an increase in neutral currents reflects as increased draw from the three-phase source? Or are the neutral currents basically *free" because of the harmonics? Also you mention that they were DC with a heavy AC component? That is interesting, getting DC from three-phase AC...

The fact that the harmonics are not mathematically consistent reminds me of the musical scale, which doesn't follow the mathematical logarithmic progression of harmonics. According to this source here: http://redwood.berkeley.edu/bruno/psc129/handouts/logs-and-music/logs-and-music.html to get the frequency of a note that is one-half step higher, you multiply the first note's frequency by 1.06. I think that we need to take the musical scale into account when determining the harmonics we want to use and your example is proof of that.

God Bless,
Jason O

MarkSnoswell · « **Reply #2578 on:** July 31, 2007, 04:19:44 AM »

Hi all,
Well I am rapidly running out of time -- I'll be in the US for most of next month. For those of you who think I do mostly theory and graphics I gathered up some of the coils I have lying around and took a couple of photos... sorry no photographs of the really interesting coils

The elaborate coils in the benchtop collection are 1 and 3 phase counter wound coils.

cheers

Mark S.

Super God · « **Reply #2579 on:** July 31, 2007, 05:07:57 AM »

Your title should be "Super Coil Winder" Those are some neat and impressive coils there!

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