@ everyone

this is simple and i have decided to help as it seams you all can use it

the coil does not matter 50 turns that is all  make it short make it fat it does not matter the collector wire throught it agin it does not matter to a degree

the reasion im going to answer some of your simple questions is

it seams no one elese wants to step up

i will answer what i can as i have no scope but i have a verry good handle on this

otto is a busy guy and i will be helping him to the best of my skills

i was going to edit and repair my posts but i like it the way it is i may fix some that make me feel good but not many

a pic of what i posted with ottos test. wire it up as in his drawing

i used nothing to drive it but a 12v  dc adaptor  and manualy plused it and i hooked up my volt meter and as the pic shows the voltage increased by .20 volts or so in this test i used speeker wire and magwire as you can see  so when you hit the right freq for the size of coil it will ring and make the kicks

IS TEAM!!

@Eldarion

This is EXACTLY what I found!  As soon as I decreased the pulse width to less than 10% (I have a custom crystal-controlled pulse generator that can generate an exact frequency with an exact duty cycle) the MOSFET stopped heating up and the light was as bright as it was without the oscillator connected.  (On my setup, as soon as I turned on the oscillator the light actually dimmed.)

Eldarion, I'm not bashing or flaming... but maybe you can elaborate on if the Oscillator was not connected, then it would not heat up... So reading between the lines you got the unit started with 10% less pulse width, then .... disconnected it and the tpu continued on it's own? Thus sustaining itself?

-art

Very good info on the variation of pulse width.  Otto showed a square wave.  what if you use another waveform?  What if you clip the wave , or clamp it, or differentiate it?  What if you use positive and negative signals?

I'm not bashing or flaming either, but a voltage increase and a brighter bulb is not enough to say you have something extrordinary.  No current measurements, no variations of the circuit - what if the lamp wire is outside the coil, across the coil, or far away from the coil? What if the lamp wire is ran through the coil - bifilar canceling?

Don't give me that "I am a simple person - I'm not an engineer" crap either - seek to understand what is happening - look at it from several angles - confirm your theories.

I will try to get it right this time.

The test a step towards understanding ...you will have to actually do it..Im sorry that I have to say that but surley ,at some point there will be something incomprehensible to you..because TPU's are impossible  right?
Please allow that some effects are not documented and are not in theory YET


Now bear with me  here, Please it is important.

Your first introduction to maths was not long division right?

Why not? You could count already..?


Those that actually do the test Might be on the same page.and ready for the next steps.
Otherwise there will  be misunderstandings.
I am not going to say "do the test again" and it is the last mention of it from me.
I am glad that some are actually doing it good for you!
Th onus of proof is not on the supplier of information..the ous is on you to do the simple experiment. Or not..please do not ask poeople to do things that you can do your self..it just shows that you have not done the test and it saddens me .

Im sure that there may be other ways to learn tpu art..its just not here right now.

I will bow out for a bit as If this has not made the situation more clear then it may be beyond my ability to convey it.

Take care of each other

Lindsay

 

Hello all,

@Jason,

I already know about pulse width. Come on guys, Im working without a break.

When you change the pulse width you get bigger kicks....  I dont have to change my pulse width!!!

Yes, Jason youre right when you say the kicks are changing into sine waves, yes.

To all,

I have a question for all of you: why are you all trying to get sooooooo big kicks?
What will you do with so huge kicks???
I can make kicks that can blow my oscilloskop and then what???
You mean if you have mega kicks you would have mega power???

Otto

Hello all,

@Jason,

I already know about pulse width. Come on guys, Im working without a break.

When you change the pulse width you get bigger kicks....  I dont have to change my pulse width!!!

Yes, Jason youre right when you say the kicks are changing into sine waves, yes.

To all,

I have a question for all of you: why are you all trying to get sooooooo big kicks?
What will you do with so huge kicks???
I can make kicks that can blow my oscilloskop and then what???
You mean if you have mega kicks you would have mega power???

Otto

Jason's kicks are no bigger than your Otto.

He was inspired by you, and accidentally found another way.

I see no reason for vitriolic responses. And labels, as you have done in your new thread. We're all trying for the same thing. Are we not?

Rich

sorry mannix

Lets look at something that's much more down to Earth. How about building a tiny tabletop model? Our transmitter will be a flyback transformer running at 30KHZ, 30KV. The receiver will be an identical device. Give both transformers a vertical antenna. How much energy can the receiver extract from the transmitter? If the transmitter's antenna is 10pF to ground, then when charged it carries 1/2*C*V^2 Joules of energy, or 4.5mJ. The transmitter charges and discharges this antenna 30K times per second, for a "sloshing" EM energy flow of 270 watts. If the receiver could "suck" each 4.5mJ pulse out of the fields, it could extract 270 watts at most (if the flyback transformer could handle the current!) A better estimate comes from connecting the two antennas with a capacitance. Suppose the capacitance between the antennas is 1pF. If the load resistance of the receiver causes the resonant voltage on the receiver to rise to a value of 1.414 times less than the transmitter voltage, then we've got a simple voltage divider. 30KV on the transmitter antenna, 21KV on the receiver. The receiver gathers 1.7mA of high-freq current. (At such high voltages, the 1pF between the antennas becomes a significant conductor.) The receiver ends up drawing 35 watts. Actually, if there was no load on the receiver, its voltage would rise until it was near 30KV. Just wind a secondary on the core of the receiving flyback and hook up a light bulb to draw the 35 watts out of the "sky". If Tesla used a megawatt transmitter at 5KHz, he probably could light some bulbs from 100KM away. (Ideally, that gives 2500 watts received.) Suppose we transmit at 100Hz? The wavelength is 3000KM and our receiver is probably within the nearfield region of the transmitter, so it can grab a significant portion of the 10KW. Hey, didn't Tesla believe that lower radio frequencies were better than high ones? For resonant power transmission they are, since the nearfield zone of a resonant receiving antenna is larger at low frequency, yet with no less power from the transmitter, and no less power flowing past the antenna. A small low-frequency resonator coil is "larger," so it intercepts more radiation.
JUst a thought

How does that relate to a tpu?
Misdirection??
The one wire stuff was in the Turbo thread...wrong place perhaps?

Hi duff.

I have messed with the tubes some time ago, Still keep them around.
Mannix and Jdo-300 are tubers. I work with Jdo. (Jason) often I will mention to him you are interested in the Tube aspect of this research. Perhapps these gentlemen will point you in the right direction.  Moab,