Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1243133 times)

otto · « **Reply #2115 on:** November 07, 2006, 07:19:00 AM »

Hello all,

@Stefan thanks, Im attaching pictures like you said but nothing happens.

What Im doing:

For the new people here

In figure 1 you can see what we are suching for: the KICK or in German Einschaltstrom.
This kick is the first moment of switching ON a DC source.

In figure 2 are shown the wires. We have a collector coil with say 23 fine litz wires. The diameter of each wire is 0,22mm. Around this collector coil are 4 control coils. In my setup each control coil has 170 turns. Wire diameter is 0,5mm.

Figure 3: When you have wound all 4 control coils on the collector coil then form a circle with the collector coil and you have a toroid with open ends.

You need three of this coils.

More comming.

Regards

Otto

raburgeson · « **Reply #2116 on:** November 07, 2006, 09:36:32 AM »

Otto,

I have collectors running sections in series also but am working on the 6" TPU. Mine will not rotate without input or I think it won't. I haven't found and outlet for air filled compasses around here. Got 3 oil filled and I think they aren't capable of following a rotating field. I went on a 24 hr. bender trying to get more than a promising looking waveform thank god for coast to coast for entertainment during the nights. No power, the voltage dies when a load is attached. I'm beat from to many hours, I've torn it down and took pics, they are not cool to look at (just a bunch of wire, I'll get them up in a while). I wonder how critical the size is at this point. Mine came out 6 1/4 OD. instead of 6". Really I think I have to be wired wrong 2 in parallel one in series.

Ok, I think your coil would be better with a wire between the 2nd and 3rd sections that can be switched to ground. We just lost several members because they didn't have a safety shut down. The coil you are building can reach high Q too. Don't tempt fate, murphy's law, or what ever you prefer to call it. We're family here so don't get mad at me for saying this. The one thing I did learn for sure is you kill the action of the collector from the center. Try it ground the center and the rotation will stop immediately.

raburgeson · « **Reply #2117 on:** November 07, 2006, 10:05:44 AM »

I don't know what all disappeared yet still looking, I got 1 pic I'll stick back up cause I didn't see it. I have been leaving the core windings open I hope that's the right thing to do. Some people were puting a cap across.

otto · « **Reply #2118 on:** November 07, 2006, 10:22:53 AM »

Hello all,

in the picture you will see a wiring diagram for the control coil so you can then have a rotational magnetic field.

@raburgeson

you must on one end of the coil connect +8-12 V DC and on the other end a function generator (square wave generator with 0-5V output square waves. I dont need a compass. I have a magnetized needle or a little, light magnet hanging over the TPU. The wires of the control coils MUST be wired all in the SAME direction. In this moment no ground connection exept the bases or gates ( if you use MOSFETs) of the transistors are connected with the minus(-) of the power supply.

otto · « **Reply #2119 on:** November 07, 2006, 10:24:18 AM »

Sorry, just another try

hartiberlin · « **Reply #2120 on:** November 07, 2006, 10:34:30 AM »

Many thanks Otto for the wiring diagramm,
now you succeeded to post pictures !

I will study it later.

Here is another interesting thread I just compiled from new and old data:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1668.0.html

mrd10 · « **Reply #2121 on:** November 07, 2006, 01:05:19 PM »

Quote from: raburgeson on November 07, 2006, 09:36:32 AM

Otto,

I have collectors running sections in series also but am working on the 6" TPU. Mine will not rotate without input or I think it won't. I haven't found and outlet for air filled compasses around here. Got 3 oil filled and I think they aren't capable of following a rotating field. I went on a 24 hr. bender trying to get more than a promising looking waveform thank god for coast to coast for entertainment during the nights. No power, the voltage dies when a load is attached. I'm beat from to many hours, I've torn it down and took pics, they are not cool to look at (just a bunch of wire, I'll get them up in a while). I wonder how critical the size is at this point. Mine came out 6 1/4 OD. instead of 6". Really I think I have to be wired wrong 2 in parallel one in series.

Ok, I think your coil would be better with a wire between the 2nd and 3rd sections that can be switched to ground. We just lost several members because they didn't have a safety shut down. The coil you are building can reach high Q too. Don't tempt fate, murphy's law, or what ever you prefer to call it. We're family here so don't get mad at me for saying this. The one thing I did learn for sure is you kill the action of the collector from the center. Try it ground the center and the rotation will stop immediately.

Hello Rub, what do you mean by lost members, your not talking about them being killed by this device?

mrd10 · « **Reply #2122 on:** November 07, 2006, 01:23:23 PM »

Quote from: otto on November 07, 2006, 10:24:18 AM

Sorry, just another try

Yep thats the top transformer/generator toroidal from 390721 Tesla Patent

sparkman · « **Reply #2123 on:** November 07, 2006, 02:51:11 PM »

Quote from: mrd10 on November 07, 2006, 01:05:19 PM

Quote from: raburgeson on November 07, 2006, 09:36:32 AM
Otto,

I have collectors running sections in series also but am working on the 6" TPU. Mine will not rotate without input or I think it won't. I haven't found and outlet for air filled compasses around here. Got 3 oil filled and I think they aren't capable of following a rotating field. I went on a 24 hr. bender trying to get more than a promising looking waveform thank god for coast to coast for entertainment during the nights. No power, the voltage dies when a load is attached. I'm beat from to many hours, I've torn it down and took pics, they are not cool to look at (just a bunch of wire, I'll get them up in a while). I wonder how critical the size is at this point. Mine came out 6 1/4 OD. instead of 6". Really I think I have to be wired wrong 2 in parallel one in series.

Ok, I think your coil would be better with a wire between the 2nd and 3rd sections that can be switched to ground. We just lost several members because they didn't have a safety shut down. The coil you are building can reach high Q too. Don't tempt fate, murphy's law, or what ever you prefer to call it. We're family here so don't get mad at me for saying this. The one thing I did learn for sure is you kill the action of the collector from the center. Try it ground the center and the rotation will stop immediately.

Hello Rub, what do you mean by lost members, your not talking about them being killed by this device?

Rumors grow into facts which then grow into legends. Who are the members. What is their testimony. Does it have anything to do with an actual working TPU or just careless or foolish practice.

Stefan Hartmann, Congratulations on your excellent detective work. Perhaps we could be grateful if Mr. Mannix could clarify the thread of events by dating the letters as recieved from SM

raburgeson · « **Reply #2124 on:** November 08, 2006, 12:48:25 AM »

No not killed but, I bet they are doing a major make-over of the room in their home.
The heat from Q is nasty , several TVs in the past have destroyed rooms, caused
injuries and in one case death. There are documented cases. And you heard the guys that left
saying, there are safer projects to work on. Make no mistake the reality is you are working to create a power generator that can run away on you. Steven Mark and Lindsay Mannix both mention if you do not have experience
in power electronics don't play with this circuit, and install a safty shut-off switch. Seems to me one recommendation was to use a thermistor as a switch trigger. The first of the safty precausions page 7.

supersam · « **Reply #2125 on:** November 08, 2006, 01:49:29 AM »

hey guys,

WHAT PART OF BE CAREFUL!!DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND???

lol
sam

starcruiser · « **Reply #2126 on:** November 08, 2006, 04:03:37 AM »

Quote from: raburgeson on November 08, 2006, 12:48:25 AM

No not killed but, I bet they are doing a major make-over of the room in their home.
The heat from Q is nasty , several TVs in the past have destroyed rooms, caused
injuries and in one case death. There are documented cases. And you heard the guys that left
saying, there are safer projects to work on. Make no mistake the reality is you are working to create a power generator that can run away on you. Steven Mark and Lindsay Mannix both mention if you do not have experience
in power electronics don't play with this circuit, and install a safty shut-off switch. Seems to me one recommendation was to use a thermistor as a switch trigger. The first of the safty precausions page 7.

raburgeson,

Who was this that this happened to? anyone that was a regular poster here?

carl

mrd10 · « **Reply #2127 on:** November 08, 2006, 07:25:13 AM »

safety shutoff switch, I'll look into those, there are trip fuses and saftey switches which you use in your homes, would this do?
I will really have to look at the safety aspect, even talk to engineers and electrical persons.

Thanks for the heads up, build safety into it first, is priority number 1.

Cheers,

Dom

raburgeson · « **Reply #2128 on:** November 08, 2006, 08:07:20 AM »

I would like to tell you the theory I'm approaching the six inch TPU with to see if you see something wrong with my reasoning. Trying to line up the centers of the magnetic fields I have been trying to run the top and bottom (in parallel) collectors in one rotational direction and the center in the other. I have this crazy thought that the compromise field between the top and bottom collectors will run in parallel will put the magnetic field on the same plane as the center collector. Steven said there are many ways to run 3 collectors like 2 in parallel one in series, or two in series one in parallel. I think that was a very important statement and I hope I am not interpeting it incorrectly. He can only tell us so much. He also said to imagine what happens when 2 fields collide. I tried by experimentation to learn exactly what happens and I also asked Steve and Linsay if my results were right because my equipement is very much less than the lab equipement that developed this device. I'm rereading now, I don't remember a reply to my question though. That may mean the question over stepped the legal bounds of the patented controls. I'm glad you guys are showing advancements in the first device. I'm not holding anything back I just don't have a circuit that delivers any usable VA yet, seem to be getting volts only.
It came to my attention my comment about running the sections in series was confusing. Some people in the group in the not so distant past were trying to run the sections 2 at a time across from each other, in fact the one guy had a avatar with a 2 coil X shaped thing. People kept bringing up Tesla, Gray and others. I was getting a little confused trying to sort out relative material for the TPU. If we can get all the pages back up intact you could see what I'm talking about. Well I'm waisting some of your good bench time so I'll shut up.

Dingus Mungus · « **Reply #2129 on:** November 08, 2006, 09:11:20 AM »

Quote from: raburgeson on November 08, 2006, 08:07:20 AM

I'm not holding anything back I just don't have a circuit that delivers any usable VA yet, seem to be getting volts only.

Weird question:
Does you circut involve applying a solid state magnetic field or "ramping up" in energy like the TPU's?

(I need to reread some pages)

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