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mrd10

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1980 on: November 03, 2006, 04:34:57 PM »
Ok Dave, I will do that. But before I go, Look at the other fat coil around the toroid, its the same one, but there are no gaps in between, It is interesting to try as it may have effects we havent fully investigated with yet, Its all about discovery.
Oh If anyone here is thinking about building this SM 91 volt version, do this, increase the image size so Stevens hand is about the size of your own, then you can estimate what size to build it.

Dom

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1981 on: November 03, 2006, 04:40:22 PM »
Question?
it looks like only 2 segments are wrapped on the ring on the bottom.

Comster, theres 4 fat coils wound around the ring, If you look back some posts back, dave actually has pointed all the different angles, and theres def 4, what gets me is the one infront, I strongly believe SM has wound it with gaps inbetween, no he may have done this to kill back emf , as we want to try and induce these kicks, so we can get an increase in power.

This makes me think of Tesla, who I'm pretty sure did the same thing, i.e he would kick a high voltage into the atmosphere and when it came back he would kick it again, but everytime it came back it would be stronger.   Correct me if I'm wrong anyone, that way i can go check my facts again.

Cheers,

Dom

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1982 on: November 03, 2006, 04:45:02 PM »
Dave, that image is blurry, look at the one i posted. plus you can prob take another shot again, to see.
Notice though at the back its all black, so dont believe that one pic, take several more, at different angles.

The reason Im saying this is, if you look at Sm's first device youll notice that the wires arent all wound close nit together, it seems he has gaps in these as well.

we want fast run off, we want kicks, again a capacitive effect would do this No?

Cheers,

Dom

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1983 on: November 03, 2006, 04:47:01 PM »
Great, thanks. I will try to find that post. Are those coils aswell between the top ring and the bottom? In other words the 4 posts that hold the top and bottom ring together, are those vertical coils in relation to the coils rapped on the bottom ring?

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mrd10

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1984 on: November 03, 2006, 04:52:12 PM »
This is why I think about the gaps Dave, go back and read SM's email to Lindsay:-

effects of multiple frequencies combined together I found out that when you deliberately strive to create the worst case scenario of frequencies you start to get some very measurable kicks. In themselves they are not much. But if you make enough of them fast sendoff, you get a collectible power spike that is more then the power available to begin with. The destructive heating caused by the eddy currents become the problem we face when we make a really large powerful coil. Now you understand more about the heating problem and why using a fan does not work.

Cheers,

See where he mentions fast sendof, that to me sounds like capacitance at play, I could be wrong and we all could be wrong but lets elimnate it, if we dont get the results.

Dom

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1985 on: November 03, 2006, 04:55:02 PM »
comster let me draw a pic for you, at least as a guide, then anyone here can make comments, hang 10

Dom

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1986 on: November 03, 2006, 04:58:18 PM »
COOL....  :) At this stage of building any input would be awesome. Lets call this one a open source project. Everyone can add a line and I can try it.  :)

 

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1987 on: November 03, 2006, 05:15:55 PM »
Now comster, the fatter coils to me looks like they are all connected in series --c1--c2--c3--c4--

You'll have to experiment, let me say this though, even that I drew this for you, and anyone that wants to build this version, it's still best to start your experimenting small scale. wire some coils , put them in different configurations , even with magnets near by to see what happens.

My pic is only a reference, and should be used as such. I havent started building, rather I have been trying to understand what being said by Lindsay and Steven.

I would prob do this first, wind some fat coil on a former of sometype, this could be plastic, then wind finer wire on two segments only, i.e on the fatter coil, make one of the fatter coils with gaps, then pulse the finer coil and see what results you get at different frequencies. Also it maybe the case that the finer coils are two segments , and these are connected to the magnets, which may have coils under them.

don't worry about magnets for now, just start of with what we know, or close to what we know.
Oh and i suggest that you read from post 1 to 20, collect all with Lindsay and Steven Marks, and listen to what SM has got to say.

cheers,

Dom

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1988 on: November 03, 2006, 05:17:44 PM »
Dave, dont take this the wrong way....this device doesnt make sense yet either, and you may have to throw away what you learnt, and re write again.

cheers,

Dom

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1989 on: November 03, 2006, 05:26:27 PM »
Thanks Dom.
I am drawing a prototype in some cad software with everyones recommendations.

@Dave
Many Thanks.
I'm looking forward to some lab time this weekend to implement your experiments.

@All
Cheers
 

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1990 on: November 03, 2006, 05:45:29 PM »
Dave,

Maybe you can find some answers from here,

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nestedfields/

In this group we are studying open systems,that have ability to transfer energy from long distances,and from different time by phase conjugation system.

Esa

   
Virus,

Regarding the Mini-Romag, on my site you can see I once tried to build one, it did not work.

The coils are wired like this so as one magnet induces EMF in a coil, the next coil is wound backwards so it will be powered by the previous coil and now attracted the next one and so on.  Its a kind of rotating field as you say.  But there is no external energy input so it will stop.

As I say, no device can run if it is closed looped.  IT MUST RECEIVE energy from ELSEWHERE.

Perpentum Mobiles are impossible.  Nothing can run without outside energy to run it.

SMs device is a convertor.  You are not going to be able to start a rotating field and pick it up and feed it back to the input.  Its heat losses, etc plus the load alone will shut it down straight away, infact you wont even get that far.

It is a convertor.  It must convert SOME OTHER energy source.  So we can forget about treating it as a perpemtum mobile, as that is impossible.  Free Energy has to do with converting an unknown energy source in to electricity, NOT CREATING energy from thin air, which is impossible even with un-conventional thinking!


Dave.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" Farland or stubblefield?
« Reply #1991 on: November 03, 2006, 06:15:14 PM »
http://pixerve.de/43323/pese.html

I seen here Patent of Daniel McFarland.
I have same Drawling from Stubbelfield !!

I will find the windings details (not described by Farland
Pese

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1992 on: November 03, 2006, 06:56:28 PM »

Does it do all you would like?


as it runs it runs fine, but sometimes it locks.
i bought it because it wasnt too expensive.

marco

Carl, if you can, get a 2 channel scope, otherwise you cannot do any power measurements or compare phase differences, etc.  Pico do some nice PC interfacing equipment and 4 channel scope too.

http://www.picotech.com/oscilloscope.html


D.

@Dave,

I do have a nice Sencore 2 Channel analog (built in freq counter and DVM) but it has no PC capabilities so I am looking to augment my test gear. Was looking at some B&K generators as well as some PC based stuff, just trying to checkout all possibilities before I commit to buying new gear.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1993 on: November 03, 2006, 07:41:39 PM »
Hello ctglabs-I was reading your statement
((((When the current stops, the magnetic field collapses on the wire and causes a current that flows in the opposite direction.  Is this not just normal Back EMF?  Since the energy that created the back emf was contained in the magnetic field that was created by the original current flow, then we have nothing more?)))).

This is not really correct and may be part of the problem, when current stops the magnetic field collapses,your scope shows a positive voltage followed by a negative voltage on collapse of the B field but current flow is always in the same direction. If you put a coil in series with a battery and a switch, you close the switch current flows-you open the switch current stops abruptly and the momentum creates an electron pile-up measured as a negative voltage but it is not, the electrons are moving in the same direction they pile-up raising voltage, creating ionization,ADG,and finally VAD or an arc discharge across the switch. Logically you can test this easily, we normally put a blocking diode in parallel with a coil to prevent switch arcing or frying switching transistors, What direction is the diode facing? the diode is letting current flow in series with the coil/transformer in the same direction as it was initially, so if the current supposedly reversed it would have nowhere to go and fry the diode? You can google -electron flow -DC switch arcing -blocking diodes to verify this, it is a common misconception that just seems to go on and on and on, the best thing I think anyone interested in this technology can do is to research (Electron Flow) because 95% of the people I talk to basically believe what modern physics has proven incorrect 60 years ago.
Here is something else to consider in your project, If current flow is always in the same direction- What would happen if you took a piece of wire 1 mile long,started current flowing for an instant then completely disconnected the source? What if the wire was a coil and you applied current only for a millisecond then switched from the source to a seperate load circuit? If current flow is forward and it cannot draw from the source-can or could it draw from a seperate external source? and if the voltage is measured as reversing but the current flow remains in the same direction as physics says it must,does this not seem to be a bit of a paradox?.

Questions are all I have

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #1994 on: November 03, 2006, 09:05:17 PM »
I wonder if the TPU looks like this?