ya' know

I was reading the posts tonight about mannix / SM, when a thought occured to me.

we all know by now that one of the reasons that SM doesn't post detailed plans and instructions about his TPU is because of the danger involved with running it improperly.

well, think about it ....
wouldn't it be LESS DANGEROUS to post the ALL the info about the TPU and build it safely than let us try to figure it out in the dark like we have been trying to do ?

we aren't allowed to drive a car without some kind of driver training ...
pilots aren't allowed to fly an airplane without many hours of flight training, etc etc ...

it's true that people get killed in car & airplane accedents every day, but, I would rather get the know-how FIRST, rather than having someone throw me the keys to the car on my 16th birthday and try to figure it out for myself .  lol

Guy’s, Guy’s, Guy’s

@ Dave, re your post about every body riding along and only want to share in the spoils, I don’t think it’s true. Some posts back I ask for advices as what to look for in purchasing a Oscope. As you get hand held ones that can measure about 20Mhtz, and major desktop units that go way beyond, and their prices follow suet. No response.

Most people I think wont mind getting their hands dirty (sore) on winding coils, but just don’t have the means to measure anything, as mentioned a DMM will not be enough.

About 9-10 years ago I look at the Mini-Romag, it’s a device that generate it’s own electricity as long as there is a load connected to it, and is faces upwards. See Naudin’s replication attached. They use copper coated steel wires (bail wire?) wrapped around the magnets and connected to each other. Look at the way the collector coils are wired it’s series with a twist.

Gosh, I don’t know how to describe all this.

1.   Can the theory or some of it not be applied to SM’s device’s.
2.   Exchanged the PM for EM (coil or coil sections, 4, 6, 8, etc.), you will have a solid state device.
3.   Instead of rotating the PM’s at 2100 rpm for 42 sec, use a magnet to start the EM coil, could have a startup time like SM was waiting for.
4.   The EM coilS, (there are 2 rows of magnets), if they are moved to the outside of the collector, could fit the profile of the big unit in one of the SM photo’s.
5.   This unit of ? 2 inches’ generates 3.5v at 7 amps.

You guy's with the theoretical know how can converm if it can work.

After watching a clip on You tube about HAARP yesterday, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IciWImOpxcII own SM and the guy’s a serious apology for mouthing of the other day, (it was more out of frustration on my side wanting to do these things and not getting any where.)

I now for once understand the implications these things could have if it is not monitored closely and kept under check and controlled responsibly.

SM and MANNIX (etc). I apologies.


Virus

Dave

Thanx for your response on the oscopes, is their any good in the PC scopes ? I am just thinking in lines of getting more functionality out of it for the same price ?

Did you see that Naudin got the Mini-Romag working ?

I will start shopping for a scope, looks like missing out on all the play ! Will put some mesh in front of the windows first, at least it should help a bit if my wife gets hold of it.

Virus

People don't wan't free energy it seems.
As i see it, this device works.
There is only a short pulse used to distort the magnetic field.
When the magnetic field returns to normal, the energy of it doing so, is collected. Hence, at the same time the energy is used to put a spike into the other circuit. This goes round and round. It looks like a resonating circuit which amplifies itself.

This is as simple as it can be. but nobody seems to see this?

When I first saw the ReneRator, I thought this forum would be jumping all over it as the missing link, but they just ignored it.

The theory makes sense.

From a physical perspective, the ReneRator is closer to the SM device than anything anybody has found yet. The placements of the coils, the gap between them matches the physical pics we have of his device.

In the video of SM cutting up the coil, it seems that he was only showing one half of the device, probably so not to give too much away.

My theory - The SM devices with the black tape covering them are two coils places on top of each other, similar in design to the ReneRator with the outputs coil each collecting from the coil underneath on their particular side. And each side requires a magnet, just as in the SM videos.

The only thing that I don't understand is the theory behind why SM needed a solid state circuitry and frequency selector for his devices. Is it just to stop some sort of out of control oscillation? Or does it perform some required function that is actually needed to see energy output? Or is the circuit for just controlling the input pulses?

@aupersam,

hey everyone,

lots of very smart, newbies.

thanks newbies,

lol
sam

Your a stupid dipshit, you know that?  That's why you will never figure it out.  Some newbie can come on here an spell it out to you and you still won't be able to see the light because your head is up your arse.  Just like the know it all's on the magnetic motor section of this forum - tell them exactly how to do it and they still can't figure it out, but the damn thing will keep spinning in front of me.

No wonder Mannix left.  People like you have created a "ship of fools".

"Freaks of nature" like you have never even heard of a scorch field (allows direct manipulation of the phi and A fields - aka time and space), much less have the balls to create one, but you think you will create a rotating magnetic field by hacking Telsa's old motor patent - ROFLMFAO!!!  Look at the SM's four coils.  The coils on opposite sides from each other experience the Lorentz Force between them - stick that in your pipe and smoke on it!  coils 1 and 3 attract each other, squeezing the output coil, - this "squeeze" alternates between 1-3 and 2-4.

BTW - that compass spinning in the center of a toroid with four coils on it is called a "toroidal torque motor" - been around for 100 years and it will never self-run.

So, I will say it one more time, since you are a bit thick: "mechanical oscillation"  

Read all about it:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfor.html
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magint.html#c1
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/forwir.html#c1

Who's the newbie now, little "mr know it all"?

The other thing I was thinking of is the rumour that a battery is required to start the SM device. Don't dismiss the possibility - what if a small battery is just required to generate the initial input pulse or kick, which is then amplified through the system and kept in motion by the collapsing and expanding of the magnetic fields.

Hi everyone,

Think about this. We had copper and magnets before we had the water wheel. Then when we had all that, nobody put the magnets on the axils to swipe past the copper. Why? Same argument that Lister received when he talked about little creatures invading our bodies. The common cry of pomposity is "If you can't see it, it doesn't exist". And "Don't tell me! I got more power than you and I will call the shots".
Keep this thread going. Yes, let us bash our heads against our fists. Lets throw punches at others. Whatever it takes to break through our boundaries of ignorance. All of societies great achievements came from great people who had to Fight the good fight!
Hey, if it was easy, chimpanzees would be traveling in canoes!

--giantkiller.

Quote from: mflynn44 on November 02, 2006, 06:34:11 PM

A related topic... My understanding is that the four bifilar coils are each loosely wrapped with another magnet wire coil and this magnet wire coil has a smaller magnet wire coil attached at one corner. This arrangement of three coils has to do with the "kick" we are searching for. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hi, I must have missed that?  From what I can see we only know what we can see in the video.  SM has not comment on the small device, only the large one?

If it is so, its interesting because it confirms 90 degree coupling in the small device too.


Dave.

@Dave,

Makes me think SM was using the "Collector Coil" as a TDR line and timing (or just providing more and hoping) the reflections with the next pulse to cause a "Kick", I am figuring that as the reflected pulse comes back another pulse is sent off which passes and adds to the reflected pulse. Using a feedback coil one could create a gain situation I am thinking.

This seems to be what Kosh may be experiencing now with one control coil and the collector.

I know this is more "I think" or theory but we must use this to further our experiements right?

I am also theoriziong that with a TDR line for the collector (open coil) and using the Tesla generator wiring concept along with the outter collector (the coil that is wrapped around the whole torrid) would put us in resonace. I was looking at the patent and at Tao's diagram for the coils and was thinking, isn't the TPU a modification of tesla's Generator design? Take a look, the outter coil could be the armature only stationary. In the patent Tesla says that by slowing the rotation you could increase the curent produced. What if stopping it you would still generate power since the magnetic field is rotating but it would not be AC but a DC component now? (squeezing the hose)

Take a look at the armature coil orientation to the control coils in the patent, they are orientated as we understand transformer coupling. The control coils are 90 degrees to the core of the torrid but instead of containing the field with an iron core, the wire core allows it to radiate and with the TDR effect you can increase the field. strength.

Also by adding another collector to the setup, which is isolated it might also collect or be used as a feed back pickup to the signal source??

Some thoughts is all these are,  I am going to try these ideas out myself this weekend (I hope) gotta wind a new coil setup for this one.

I forgot to mention that the outer coil would be our power collector in this theory.