Kosh:   Thanks for the info. Starting my 4 12hr nites now so will be off. Had expected the coil to be around 6" or so but hey, if it works dont fix it. 

This is for the group as a whole. I ask that we refrain from things like the wise crack about dissing on the guru. It brings no worth except to piss off the very one we need to have here. Remember, this is all a volentary effort on the part of Lindsay. I certainly know what 300 watts of transmit power feels like. It is a burning sensation, not a shock per se. Still hurts and makes for a serious sore afterwards. I caught myself going over wires and such checking connections and had that coil been resonating, well not good. From here on out, a test of the power output is essential for safety.

On a side note, I did have a coil setup that had 200 turns on the driven side and 12 on the output side wrapped on a magnet. Normally that would function as a down converter. At 1.5v p/p input, the output to the scope was >20. That was a definate encouragement to me. On ward.

sugra

Here's some food for thought:

I found an old reference to the SM device that mentioned that "resonance is established using the
mechanical (Lorentz) forces developed in the coil".

Read up on Lorentz forces (as i recall this is what causes transformers to "hum" - i.e. a mechanical force) and then "Laplace force" and found this:
http://science-on-stage.web.cern.ch/science-on-stage/Webcatalog/Greece/greece7.htm

What if the device itself is resonating - flexing in and out?  Tuning would be a function of the coil mass, coil wire length, and cross-sectional aspect ratio (is it really round?).

Whenever the coil vibrates - it interacts with the magnetic field of the magnet.  Coil output would be based on the rate of change and amount of flux.  Might be preety sweet if the frequency is high enough...

Any comments?

Here's some food for thought:

I found an old reference to the SM device that mentioned that "resonance is established using the
mechanical (Lorentz) forces developed in the coil".

Read up on Lorentz forces (as i recall this is what causes transformers to "hum" - i.e. a mechanical force) and then "Laplace force" and found this:
http://science-on-stage.web.cern.ch/science-on-stage/Webcatalog/Greece/greece7.htm

What if the device itself is resonating - flexing in and out?  Tuning would be a function of the coil mass, coil wire length, and cross-sectional aspect ratio (is it really round?).

Whenever the coil vibrates - it interacts with the magnetic field of the magnet.  Coil output would be based on the rate of change and amount of flux.  Might be preety sweet if the frequency is high enough...

Any comments?

Where is this old reference located?

I have to say this by the way:

I'm pretty well friggin disgusted with how this has gone. SM posts something via Mannix (WHICH WE ALL SUSPECTED BY THE WAY, PEOPLE), and we completely lose it? Chase Mannix away, and make him delete all of his posts? Luckily I have most of them saved, all the important stuff anyway.

SM came out and let it be known that he wasn't positive that it was from the EM field of the earth. BIG DEAL! It meant nothing to the development paths we were taking. It doesn't change the fact that kicks are universally attributed to the interaction with ethe earth's field. It doesn't change the fact that there's a rotational magnetic field which causes the squeezing, it doesn't change JACK SHIT about what we know about the device thus far!! NOTHING!! In fact it freed us from the logical constraints we were working under!!! We should have been thankful.

It doesn't change how we develop the kicks, or the experimenting process of discovering kicks. It doesn't change anything about it. In fact, many of us have surmised that there was a gravitational component in addition to the magnetic component, which caused the gyroscopic forces, the true cause.

When he said that the device drew energy from the earth's magnetic field, it WAS the most logical conclusion.... AND STILL IS!! If kicks are overunity, and they are attributed to interaction with the earth's EM field, it IS the most logical conclusion...

Does that mean that's all that's going on? NO WAY! Hendershott's device worked similarly and had gravitational components. T.T. Browns work dealt heavily with EM stuff, and there was a gravitational component to that as well.

Combining frequencies cause serious gravitational anomalies in John Hutchison's work...


I don't see why the HELL this was so shocking..

How fragile we are. How incredibly fragile. HE was RIGHT when he said that there was no way of confirming it at the time.. and that it was unimportant. He knew how it worked, and how to build it, and tune it. And for all we know, he was RIGHT!!

Thank you for that last post Mannix/SM, now let me squeal and bitch about leading us on like a highschool cheerleader. Those of us with equipment, and the ability to test should be exstatic that he was even still coming here. Now, when I get my equipment he will be gone.

But I will do what I can with what I have, and no hope of getting any more.... You know there was more, don't you? I mean, you guys knew that wasn't all of it that Mannix had right?

There is more in Heaven and earth then we shall ever know.

gn0stik.

 

rich,

just lighten up a little, maybe steven told mannix to pull all material from this sight.  heck maybe manix is steven.  who knows?  the facts that he put here are all still here. i'm just sorry you didn't make high priest. jees. lightenup. let's carry on.  it isn't about money for me, that i havn't actually started experimenting it is about knowledge.  however there is still alot of knowledge that people that post here have not experimented with yet, and some of what has already been put here could definitely be dangerous.  especially when given to a bunch of newbies.

lol
sam

Actually sam, he deleted 80% of his posts. I guess you weren't aware of that little tidbit? The only ones he didn't delete are the ones he COULDN'T delete. Most of the reference material we had is gone.. He had over 100 posts when he was here, that he had built up, and now he has only 23 or something silly like that. His last post was a chastisement of us. Now, I don't know if we deserved it, or not. We didn't have all the info that he had, and he didn't share his experimental successes and failures with us, as we did openly, but I understand his anger. And frankly it pisses me off. I could care less if I'm "high priest" as you put it. I care that we preserve the resource that we had, and that we've now pissed away.

Guys,

You have to look at this attached pdf file about US patent 119825 issued in... 1871. I found this thanks to a link posted by lynx2000. It is extremely interesting. Here are a few quotes from it:

"My invention relates to the combination of two or more simple or compound helices (coils - i.e.: control coils) and iron cores  (collectors) or magnets in such a manner as to produce a constant electric current without the aid of a galvanic battery."

About the collector equivalent:

"The iron core may be a solid bar or a bundle of iron wire  (i.e.: multi-strand wire), the latter giving higher tension..."

And guess how we start the power generation process with this setup...

"The mode of producing or starting the action in the helices consist in the use of a steel  (i.e.: permanent) or electro-magnet..."

This thing can be started with a magnet!!!! And it is physically identical to the TPU : an outer coil, an inner coil, and a collector. Plus, it is easy to build, so easy to test.

Enjoy!

Jacob

Very interesting find jacob. from the description you gave it sounds quite promising... I'll give it a read.