Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1243035 times)

giantkiller · « **Reply #1890 on:** November 01, 2006, 06:02:40 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on November 01, 2006, 03:19:41 PM

Dutchy,

We seem to have come full circle. We have been talking about effects of rotating field, etc. But we again come back to basic question. What ever energy we can build up in the rotating field, how will it couple in to the collector coil, which from the video, we can now confirm is wound at 90 degrees to the excitor or control coils.

So, lets say that I find some magic mix of frequency as SM says which creates a new signal which is stronger than the some of its parts, I still cannot couple it in to the collector coil. In normal terms these coils will really act as if the other isnt even there, apart from some capacitance interaction which is really minimal.

Even if I have this single wire which a "kick", the energy will not couple in to a coil at 90 degrees.

So whats going on here?

SM says it is using things that are in normal science and can be easily shown. I know of nothing that will allow a coil interaction at 90 degrees, it goes against the most basic laws.

So perhaps this kick is this so called radiant discharge, which we have yet to proove even exists.

Or the rotating field creates some other effect which allows the collector to take energy from else where and they are not even meant to interact.

So far, none of the theorys we have talked about will allow this coil interaction, apart of course from radiant discharges, but, who can show me one?

Dave.

Hi, I am speaking kindly here...
I had previously posted the pic of the magnetic bulldozer to help show the magnetic pressures. It went against your electronic knowledge. I had posted a pic that also tried the show how the SM coils sit in the earth flux planes and how possibly those fields can be manipulated. @marco had posted positively to these. Thanks. I had a thought that the toroid field might look like a toilet flushing. Yes I know, a funny example, but electronically everybody is on this circut like 'a pitbull picnic'. Now at wits end the transition to the next level has started. Everybody is questioning what is next or what's happening. Well great aircraft mechanics aren't always involved with air dropping food to the hungry outposts. I am consistently looking at the magnetic fields. My previous posts and pix have magnified this. I believe all the circuits and tests are doing things very close to SM coils. Now it is time to look at the fields. And if I was any part of exiling anybody then I have shame.
@kosh, the kicks looks good.
@Dave, I see you are using the same 4 channel driver cicuit. That gives me hope. I am still using mine. I've come to far with one to trash it.

I am working on more field diagrams to depict was is happening.

--giantkiller. It is not the circuit but the mysterious output.

mrd10 · « **Reply #1891 on:** November 01, 2006, 06:03:09 PM »

Hi Lindsay,

Good to see you back, I was checking second proto pics again, and I could be wrong, but testing combinatins at this stage is a good thing. I was just thinking same thing.

the 2nd proto has this thin wire, so we pulse this, which is wrapped around the large bifilar, which is like your twin cable setup.
Cool.
I'm writing this for record purposes, this will be combination I will try first:-

the output/collector coil is bifilar.
the finer coil wound around this will be my control coil

Thanks Again,

Dom

mflynn44 · « **Reply #1892 on:** November 01, 2006, 06:29:20 PM »

Quote from: mflynn44 on November 01, 2006, 05:46:04 PM

Quote from: mrd10 on November 01, 2006, 05:22:01 PM
Hi Dave,

... In Lindsays clear pic of second one, he has a finer coil wound around bifilar, which at this point i'm going to call that the output, and the bifilar windings going all around the bottom ring is the collector coil and the magnet coils are the control coils, Is this correct? Because in your setup then your control coil isnt there, but your using pulses.

Stephan and all,
... 1 metre of lamp wire(twinflex) wrapped with thin insulated wire..it takes about half an hour. you will get sore fingers!
Drive the thin wire with low frequency sinewave and check out the result from the lamp wire!
I would not have expected pulsed high frequency from this setup.

Lindsay Mannix

Hi MRD10,

Sorry for the confusion. I should have "from a previous post of Lindsay Mannix" rather than "Lindsay Mannix".

When I was reading that first quote above I remembered something that Lindsay wrote and so went back and found it. I've been working with four coils for months but had forgotten about the finer coil wound around the bifilar. This gives me a new direction for research.

dutchy1966 · « **Reply #1893 on:** November 01, 2006, 07:23:27 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on November 01, 2006, 05:02:30 PM

Rob, as you know I am just outside london. I mean, I can buy one or build one, its just more money! Can you get those little 1cm^2 package oscillators that high? I think they dont go that high, just to about 64Mhz or something I think. Or I could tap the local oscillator in my VHF/UHF radio?

Dave.

The solid state oscillator do go that high but you cant adjust them (or very coarse)
I guess we need something easy adjustable as we need to tune near the frequency and probably not go dead on , so i would go for the radio oscillator.
So you wanna have a go at this idea then?

Robert

dutchy1966 · « **Reply #1894 on:** November 01, 2006, 08:05:28 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on November 01, 2006, 07:39:47 PM

Rob,

Just thought, my scope only goes to 20Mhz. I cannot afford anything more, this one cost enough as it is! So I wont be able to view these signals.

Dave.

Is it absolutely necessary to measure those fast signals, according to the theory shouldn't there be DC coming from the output coil? Just tune the oscillator and see how much dc comes out. A lot of power is my guess,just imagine a generator rotating at lightspeed. It's no wonder then that you have to stay abit away from the exact frequency.
Besides we can lower the frequency by going quarter wavelength for example. (wave adding in every fourth loop,still 75 mhz though). Or also increase the circumfence to lower the frequency.
Any other ways to slow down these waves? (will iron wire slow them down???)

Robert

dutchy1966 · « **Reply #1895 on:** November 01, 2006, 08:44:27 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on November 01, 2006, 08:17:00 PM

Dutchy,

I guess you are right. We can just measure the output voltage until its higest. Then make some power measurements.

We can lower the frequency, but the coil wil get too large.

So, if this is the principle, why there is 5Khz pulsed DC output? If he is using 5Khz, when on this frequency we are going to need 60 km of wire? So, something not right. Can it be two waves are send and they are slightly off so they dont add totally and over run, and they leave a difference of 5Khz. As he says the frequencys are very high and are just a means to an end.

But for waves to add, we must have 100%. But then if SM found some magic mix, who knows. I will know more once I have these two white noise generators to mix.

Dave.

Hmmm, you could be on to something there but it has to be done so that all the waves in the loops end up at the same spot on the circumfence. I have to think that through....
Well I'm gone for today.....Let you know my thoughts on that tomorrow....

cu l8ter

Robert

c0mster · « **Reply #1896 on:** November 01, 2006, 08:47:53 PM »

I watched this video again. http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=333661567309752927&q=steven+marks
Steven says repeatably that the electricity is 6000Hz. This video also shows two rings as opposed to a solid toroid. It's to bad that home video cameras in the 90's had such a fuzzy picture.

Comster

giantkiller · « **Reply #1897 on:** November 01, 2006, 09:20:30 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on November 01, 2006, 08:17:00 PM

Dutchy,

I guess you are right. We can just measure the output voltage until its higest. Then make some power measurements.

We can lower the frequency, but the coil wil get too large.

So, if this is the principle, why there is 5Khz pulsed DC output? If he is using 5Khz, when on this frequency we are going to need 60 km of wire? So, something not right. Can it be two waves are send and they are slightly off so they dont add totally and over run, and they leave a difference of 5Khz. As he says the frequencys are very high and are just a means to an end.

But for waves to add, we must have 100%. But then if SM found some magic mix, who knows. I will know more once I have these two white noise generators to mix.

Dave.

Hi all,
nice going,
I had posted something about this long ago about the magnetic interference of the 2 toroidial fields impacting each other. I was thinking about counter rotating fields but that won't get you the vortex action that Marco was contemplating. The difference might be, in the magnetic fields, a very aggrevated effect. The closer the fields the lower the difference. If the difference is what the coils are tuned to and make it the 7.8hz arena we could get away with a small collector? And I know some of this has been stated before by @otto, @dave, @mrd. The collector is tuned to 7.8hz or a lower harmonic and that is also the difference of the two freqs. Somebody stated prior the electronics must be easy to do the get the runtime specs. SM cranked out 6? of these of different configurations and they all worked? God, we gotta be close!
I could use some outside of this to hear what everybody thinks.
If we want to put the control windings in a ring and use the right hand rule of winding. We want the north pole to point in the direction of clockwise. With this, in all cases we have the current flowing through the control wires all flowing into and down through the center. We pulse the control windings in a clockwise direction.

So what we end up with is a clockwise, rotating magnetic field with the coil current all flowing through the center from the top down. This puts the field generation in sync with what the earth is doing or can be tuned or directed to do. Like a via duct. After all we don't make water run uphill and you don't try to nail jello to the wall.
And remember all the famous sayings of the nature that 'It can't be'. If you're stubborn that was your exit cue. Henry Ford was told that 'If a person goes faster than 20 mph they will die'.

--giantkiller. I, for one, am not dead yet!

mrd10 · « **Reply #1898 on:** November 01, 2006, 09:46:15 PM »

Hi GK,

Good analogy about the jello and pushing up hill, I've got an idea which i'm going to follow, and something the mflynn44 posted last night, look at the 2 ring version, i.e 91 volts, that Lindsay gave us, then Dave eloborated on, this looks to easy to build, so im following that one.

These are the combinations, im going with, and I will be building several, so I don't have to keep stuffing around with the same one:-

--c1--c2--c3--c4-- = bifilar = output/collector coil, wrap thin wire around this, which will be control coil, i.e were pulsing into.

--c1--c3--, --c2--c4-- = bifilar = output/collector, wrap thin wire around this, which will be control coil, i.e were pulsing into

Now after looking at the clear pic, I noticed a white wire going of to the left of the bifilar coil, around the middle of the photo, this suggests to me that, the segments are wired in series, and they are only wound once around the ring, so again, I will build two as per above, now if you have image viewer and open up the image of this clear pic, zoom his hand till it matches roughly your own, then youhave a guide of how big the ring will have to be.

The thin wire that is wound wrapped in parallel with the larger bifilar winding.

Anyway hope this helps the Coil builders out there.

Sincerely,

Dom

mrd10 · « **Reply #1899 on:** November 01, 2006, 10:16:57 PM »

Hi Guys sorry,

I got this reply from Lindsay, and I hope he is still with us, again I should read my replies more often, Again I do apologies Lindsay, as I only read this recently, and please don't shoot me for sending this to everyone, If it gets us back on track, i'll be happy:-

Dom,
I think that you need to read the first half of this thread entirely and SLOWLY.

take your time ther's lots there

You are dragging impatient ,new ones like yourself over old ground and slowing the progress. I am also worried that you have no experience with high voltage rf.
Other forums have started because of this and it is not just you. If you go thru it and accept that we do not and cannot learn all at once you may realize that many people have been here for 10 months and silly questions like bifilar and drawings that are wrong do not belong in the main thread.

The only people that are responding to you are those who are late commers and have also not read the thread.

the last post that you think was stevens latest was way way back... cut and pasted, so foot off the pedal uh?

Dont just post your imaginings.. do some experiments...get in the grove .. you write well.Make it work.

any way I gave you a direction which you completely ignored.

I admire your enthuesasim but slow down then catch up. Be a part of the solution.You will see what i mean if you do it.

I also screwed up by giving otto the wrong impression.
I have emailed him as well.
We will see what happens.

I will tell you something..I think that the reason that we do not have these devices is that when the inventor tried to explain..nobody would listen. They just wanted a free energy machine.

Lindsay Mannix

giantkiller · « **Reply #1900 on:** November 01, 2006, 10:47:55 PM »

Quote from: mrd10 on November 01, 2006, 09:46:15 PM

Hi GK,

Good analogy about the jello and pushing up hill, I've got an idea which i'm going to follow, and something the mflynn44 posted last night, look at the 2 ring version, i.e 91 volts, that Lindsay gave us, then Dave eloborated on, this looks to easy to build, so im following that one.

These are the combinations, im going with, and I will be building several, so I don't have to keep stuffing around with the same one:-

--c1--c2--c3--c4-- = bifilar = output/collector coil, wrap thin wire around this, which will be control coil, i.e were pulsing into.

--c1--c3--, --c2--c4-- = bifilar = output/collector, wrap thin wire around this, which will be control coil, i.e were pulsing into

Now after looking at the clear pic, I noticed a white wire going of to the left of the bifilar coil, around the middle of the photo, this suggests to me that, the segments are wired in series, and they are only wound once around the ring, so again, I will build two as per above, now if you have image viewer and open up the image of this clear pic, zoom his hand till it matches roughly your own, then youhave a guide of how big the ring will have to be.

The thin wire that is wound wrapped in parallel with the larger bifilar winding.

Anyway hope this helps the Coil builders out there.

Sincerely,

Dom

The c1-c3 combo is the config of the 390721 patent

mrd10 · « **Reply #1901 on:** November 01, 2006, 11:11:33 PM »

Yes thats right GK,

We have some experimenting to do, Looking at second proto again, he mentions that this is nothing to do with bifilar and way coils are wound, so he might be right in saying that.

I've gone back to first 20 or so posts, with correspondence between Lindsay and Steve and I will be reviewing this information again, we may have missed the point entirely here.

And I will try and listen

Dom

c0mster · « **Reply #1902 on:** November 01, 2006, 11:28:08 PM »

@Dave

You got that right. Perhaps a rotating field is exactly whats needed. The hard part is finding the solution to the problem. I am changing gears with some of my thoughts and want to test different designs of coils. Hans Coler's device was using coils around plates that were interpreted as perhaps capacitors. When they cut apart the TPU it looks like 2 rings with filler in between. Correlation? Perhaps, only experimentation can show a result.

@Everyone
Keep up the good work.

Comster

lynx2000nl · « **Reply #1903 on:** November 02, 2006, 12:05:38 AM »

Quote from: archon79 on October 31, 2006, 09:11:21 AM

This moves so fast that most here don't bother to notice what is happening in the other threads.

Someone posted a schematic of a device which seems to be very similar to the SM device. Its called the Rene-Rator

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/renerator/freeenergy.jpg

"Every second wave, marked red, coming from the output coils is the actuator pulse for the 'input' coils to block the magnetic field of the permanent magnets. The permanent magnetic field retracts from the core inducing a current flow in the output coils. After the input 'pulse' is gone, the permanent magnet will restore the magnetic field in the core, causing a 'back-emf' in the output coils."

The only link to this rene-rator is found here, and they claim it is based on an even older design from 1871.
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2087

People don't wan't free energy it seems.
As i see it, this device works.
There is only a short pulse used to distort the magnetic field.
When the magnetic field returns to normal, the energy of it doing so, is collected. Hence, at the same time the energy is used to put a spike into the other circuit. This goes round and round. It looks like a resonating circuit which amplifies itself.

This is as simple as it can be. but nobody seems to see this?

giantkiller · « **Reply #1904 on:** November 02, 2006, 12:14:30 AM »

Quote from: lynx2000nl on November 02, 2006, 12:05:38 AM

Quote from: archon79 on October 31, 2006, 09:11:21 AM
This moves so fast that most here don't bother to notice what is happening in the other threads.

Someone posted a schematic of a device which seems to be very similar to the SM device. Its called the Rene-Rator

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/renerator/freeenergy.jpg

"Every second wave, marked red, coming from the output coils is the actuator pulse for the 'input' coils to block the magnetic field of the permanent magnets. The permanent magnetic field retracts from the core inducing a current flow in the output coils. After the input 'pulse' is gone, the permanent magnet will restore the magnetic field in the core, causing a 'back-emf' in the output coils."

The only link to this rene-rator is found here, and they claim it is based on an even older design from 1871.
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2087

People don't wan't free energy it seems.
As i see it, this device works.
There is only a short pulse used to distort the magnetic field.
When the magnetic field returns to normal, the energy of it doing so, is collected. Hence, at the same time the energy is used to put a spike into the other circuit. This goes round and round. It looks like a resonating circuit which amplifies itself.

This is as simple as it can be. but nobody seems to see this?

I had posted a flash file to show the rotating poles. But I realize that I need to show the fields.
I am working on the graphics right now. and then an avi.

--giantkiller.

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