Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1243070 times)

Mr_Video · « **Reply #1680 on:** October 28, 2006, 03:54:46 AM »

well, you can try sporting goods stores or you can get a cheap one at an auto supply store .

tishatang · « **Reply #1681 on:** October 28, 2006, 03:58:23 AM »

Hi all,

Can hardly wait til Monday. This is exciting!

I am thinking the magnet doesn't come into play until the freq is in the 180k range. Those who have a coil setup, what if each of the 4 coils was bridged with a trimmer cap so that each would have a self resonance of 180k hertz? Then maybe a magnet would do its magic?

In regards to bifilar windings, I read somewhere that the same amount of wire wound bifilar would have 50% more inductance.

Just other variables to try.

Tishatang

mrd10 · « **Reply #1682 on:** October 28, 2006, 05:37:29 AM »

Hi Guys,

I've got a 583 page pdf on teslas patents and other pdfs as well

Goto www.mininova.org and do a search for tesla and youll get ton of stuff, this is of course for educational purposes only.

Sincerely,

Dom

mrd10 · « **Reply #1683 on:** October 28, 2006, 05:52:45 AM »

here's a nice pdf which is small in size, note the 583 pdf is 521megs, ive just posted a small pdf on teslas work, the larger pdf contains much much more, and has the wiring diagram of that patent, that were using.

mrd10 · « **Reply #1684 on:** October 28, 2006, 06:08:32 AM »

Guys I sugest you d/l the huge pdf, it has alot of his work in there and explanation,

I was just reading it, Tesla mentions that he placed metal filings on paper, over the transformer and notcied a whirl pool effect, he also lifted this off the transformer and then noticed the filings wanted to fly off.

Good idea to findout what effect we get with our experiments, by using metal filings on paper.

I'll read more later and get back to you on what i find.

Looks very interesting indeed

Sincerely,

Dom

giantkiller · « **Reply #1685 on:** October 28, 2006, 06:24:56 AM »

Hey everybody,
I have dug into this patent 390721 pretty deep. And thanks to emdevices, MRd, dave, jackfrost and others for the answers.
I honed in on the the transformer part and it is very bizarre.
Pic attached and stats. Web link is http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat390721.pdf
K = p1 large wire, large turns output
k1 = p large wire, large turns output
m = n1 fine wire, many turns
m1 = n fine wire, many turns

The output coils are:
The K pair, each are wound sequentially in the same direction around. Serially.
The k1 pair, each are wound sequentially in the same direction around. serially.

@mrd
The input coils are:
wound in pairs opposite each other and each pair is cross coupled so you have n and s switching side to side and top to bottom. Instead of circular! Is Tesla hiding something here? Experiments will have to be made!
He also stated he prefers to drive them at very high speeds. This looks a Tesla coil powered in reverse. If you drive the smaller wire, higher density coils with high freq then that will compensate for the lower amount of windings on the output, right? But the Nx configuration is totally batty. But powered hard or fast enough wouldn't that cause vibration?

And the core looks like it is made up of strands. And yes Dom, very much SM coils! And per his quote 'Some in parallel and some in series'. More like a hint to a puzzle than what I had previously thought. And why shouldn't it be. The guy is ellusive. A game player, no? And on that note: after my last Eflame to the readers, Mannix included, we get an astonishingly clear picture of SM from Mannix. After 9 months? Twisty...
What if patent 390721 does work normally and is a diversion from what the transformer really does?
Our lives today run on only a potion of Tesla's ideas. But all of his ideas work!

--giantkiller. When will the cat catch the mouse? :'(

mrd10 · « **Reply #1686 on:** October 28, 2006, 06:39:07 AM »

Quote from: giantkiller on October 28, 2006, 06:24:56 AM

Hey everybody,
I have dug into this patent 390721 pretty deep. And thanks to emdevices, MRd, dave, jackfrost and others for the answers.
I honed in on the the transformer part and it is very bizarre.
Pic attached and stats. Web link is http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat390721.pdf
K = p1 large wire, large turns output
k1 = p large wire, large turns output
m = n1 fine wire, many turns
m1 = n fine wire, many turns

The output coils are:
The K pair, each are wound sequentially in the same direction around. Serially.
The k1 pair, each are wound sequentially in the same direction around. serially.

@mrd
The input coils are:
wound in pairs opposite each other and each pair is cross coupled so you have n and s switching side to side and top to bottom. Instead of circular! Is Tesla hiding something here? Experiments will have to be made!
He also stated he prefers to drive them at very high speeds. This looks a Tesla coil powered in reverse. If you drive the smaller wire, higher density coils with high freq then that will compensate for the lower amount of windings on the output, right? But the Nx configuration is totally batty. But powered hard or fast enough wouldn't that cause vibration?

And the core looks like it is made up of strands. And yes Dom, very much SM coils! And per his quote 'Some in parallel and some in series'. More like a hint to a puzzle than what I had previously thought. And why shouldn't it be. The guy is ellusive. A game player, no? And on that note: after my last Eflame to the readers, Mannix included, we get an astonishingly clear picture of SM from Mannix. After 9 months? Twisty...
What if patent 390721 does work normally and is a diversion from what the transformer really does?
Our lives today run on only a potion of Tesla's ideas. But all of his ideas work!

--giantkiller. When will the cat catch the mouse? :'(

Hi GK,

I saved the 721 patent as jpg format from that huge pdf i got, its in 4 parts, I will have to go read it myself. Just one quick question GK, what,s those rails hanging of the smaller transformer on the bottom, they got circles in the middle of the tracks

tishatang · « **Reply #1687 on:** October 28, 2006, 07:07:44 AM »

Hi all,

Here is a link to a Moray speech. A good read!

Gives hints how radiant energy works, spilling over to next stage, and makes note of backsurge of capacitors. This was also referenced by Aspden in one of my earlier posts.

http://merlib.org/node/1673

The gems are scattered thruout that apply to our search here.

Tishatang

giantkiller · « **Reply #1688 on:** October 28, 2006, 07:16:46 AM »

@mrd
Those are two rails of light bulbs in parallel with a motor. The patent states that either can be run. See what I mean? It is almost childlike. Using a patent to retell something already done. Except the configuration of the transformer. That is the only odd thing. But I will say this that this same configuration of 3 stages of coils is in the Tesla museum in Belgrade. Only the coil configurations are straight forward. Well, from what I could see in the movie.

-giantkiller. There is a mystery afoot!

RS · « **Reply #1689 on:** October 28, 2006, 08:21:29 AM »

Quote from: kames on February 23, 2006, 01:52:15 PM

Hi Lindsay,

You are absolutely right. The inner coils are the part of the control unit that help the other coils to collect. Does it mean vortex? Maybe, but not convinced. The absence of such control unit in some (not all) other torroidal power units in the videos makes me think that the idea is simpler. When I said ?rotating? field, I actually meant standard rotating field, like in the electrical motor. I didn?t mean vortex. Stefan reminded me that it might me a vortex. Agree with Stefan. But I don?t think the idea of the vortex is used. Even if I am wrong about the vortex I fully agree that the vortex can actually multiply the ?kicks? under some conditions.

Regards.

mrd10 · « **Reply #1690 on:** October 28, 2006, 10:29:08 AM »

Hey Guys,

The bottom one that Otto was referring to (transformer), try wiring it this way and feed a signal in both.....

Oh also check out the rotating metal egg on youtube, at the Tesla Muesem:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brNBVDCeECg&mode=related&search=

notice the 4 connections to the right.

Dom

mrd10 · « **Reply #1691 on:** October 28, 2006, 10:37:17 AM »

Guys the rotating metal egg, I dont think they are increasing the voltage, it might be winding up
hence like SM's device.

Dom

mrd10 · « **Reply #1692 on:** October 28, 2006, 10:51:34 AM »

Dave, no make them inputs, go back to SM's second prototype

look at the finer winding on bottom ring, notice one winding ontop of the other, two inputs

and the larger coil wound just above collects the energy produced.

Sincerely,

Dom

mrd10 · « **Reply #1693 on:** October 28, 2006, 11:06:21 AM »

Hi Dave,

No im talking about the second video to open rings, it's the clear pic Lindsay mannix posted a while ago.

You have your coils , could you try it?

That's if your not at work. See the egg did it for me, because if there not winding that thing up and it takes off like that.....

WOWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'm going to google tesla egg to see if there's any notes about it.

Dom

mrd10 · « **Reply #1694 on:** October 28, 2006, 11:29:51 AM »

Hi Dave,

But what if, pump two different frequencies in, or same, and they increase, like jet turbine as per SM's first device.

For people who have coils, If you could try it, and see what the effect is?
Otto said just follow the Tesla patent, so I have, but i don't have coils yet.
I did say i was going to start today, but I spent it with the family.

I read in that same patent something interesting, concerning the load, something that it matched the generators output or something like that, because of the way the transformers worked.

This could be it Dave, I can't see how many other ways to do it, unless its that 10% that got away.

Sincerely,

Dom

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