Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1243115 times)

gaspo100 · « **Reply #1545 on:** October 23, 2006, 02:22:26 PM »

Quote from: Kosh on October 23, 2006, 03:48:40 AM

New coil, same results... Have to try again with bailing wire...

From the picture of your setup the scope shows 5Vpp on the output of your AVR but the real voltage of the pulses across the control coils must be much less: your control coils may have about 1R resistance connected in series with 330R resistor - you get current about 15mA which gives 15mV across 1ohm control coil.
Can this be right that 15mVpp on the control coils generate 7Vpp on the collector?

motofox · « **Reply #1546 on:** October 23, 2006, 04:27:35 PM »

Enhanced

jacob · « **Reply #1547 on:** October 23, 2006, 05:59:41 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on October 23, 2006, 05:32:08 PM

"The multiple frequencies traveling around the coils are of too high a frequency to provide for any motive effort. They are only a means to achieve an end. The multiple frequencies begin to feed themselves..."

So, what does he mean by a means to an end? That two high frequencys are used to generate a 3rd beat frequency which is much lower?

Dave.

Quote from: jacob on October 21, 2006, 09:58:10 PM

I submit to you that the extra energy being picked up by the collector coils might not be a result of coupling, but the manifestation of another phenomena. Think about it...

Regards,

Jacob

gn0stik · « **Reply #1548 on:** October 23, 2006, 06:10:46 PM »

Quote from: jacob on October 23, 2006, 05:59:41 PM

Quote from: ctglabs on October 23, 2006, 05:32:08 PM
"The multiple frequencies traveling around the coils are of too high a frequency to provide for any motive effort. They are only a means to achieve an end. The multiple frequencies begin to feed themselves..."

So, what does he mean by a means to an end? That two high frequencys are used to generate a 3rd beat frequency which is much lower?

Dave.

Quote from: jacob on October 21, 2006, 09:58:10 PM

I submit to you that the extra energy being picked up by the collector coils might not be a result of coupling, but the manifestation of another phenomena. Think about it...

Regards,

Jacob

Jacob if you have something to say, say it.

gn0stik · « **Reply #1549 on:** October 23, 2006, 06:13:28 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on October 23, 2006, 04:51:49 PM

I have just tried the same setup as before but with a sinewave input instead of a transistor and pulse.

The compass still spins with two coils and one AC signal. It will work much better with another two coils and 90 degree phase shift.

The more I think about it, it must be wired like to this to get a compass to spin. And it looks like a phase motor!

Dave.

Dave, when you get 4 spools set up, throw a speaker wire in the center, through the holes in the spools, if you have some, and see what you get out of it, if anything. Also, try DC pulses, just for grins and giggles if you get a chance.

mikestocks2006 · « **Reply #1550 on:** October 23, 2006, 06:15:31 PM »

Some observations and thoughts so far may also be useful starting points.
From the video around minute 43-49
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1944827568401901581&q=steven+mark
Some info to design by:
He measures: OD 6? ID 4? Height 2?

He mentions a gyroscopic effect. Does that mean a rotating magnetic field effect?

It appears that the larger unit is already activated inside 43-49 minute portion of the video.

Around minute 46
He picks up the unit. NOTE moves the unit 90 deg off the horizontal plane and still works without noticeable loss of power on the light bulb (light glow appears steady for that orientation)
At around minute 46:25 he mentions no moving parts just a resonant coil.
He also places the unit with the same side down as he picked it up. I followed his thumb finger as a reference while the unit was always in his left hand.

The smaller one needs a single magnet placed towards the bottom apparently at a specific area?
He flips the smaller upside down to shut it down? at the end of that part of the demonstration

Up until minute 49:30 I could not see if he turned the larger one upside down.

What might be the significance of unit orientation? And how does that relate to DCV out?
Is the collector toroid open or closed? By collector toroid I mean the one that captures and resonates the ambient energy field what ever that field might be.

What happens if the collector toroid is rectified. ?( through a diode in series or external magnet use so the filed is only allowed to spin one way?) Then when the next wve comes it gets an extra ?push? and that may also explain the reving up/down sensation?

Assuming (maybe a big assumption) that the load coil(s) are only magnetically coupled to the collector toroid and the collector toroid is rectified, would that account for the DCV out on the load coils?

Regarding frequency, he definitely mentions 7.3 Hz and also mentions again the flipping upside down effect in this video. Only 4 mins long.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8435800732540412467&q=steven+mark

mrd10, thx for the mechanical parallels on tuning forks. I?m also thinking along the same lines.
ctglabs nice work on the site.

JackFrost · « **Reply #1551 on:** October 23, 2006, 06:27:33 PM »

@Jacob,

Are you refering to the vector potential? Sounds more plausible than coupling with perpendicular coils...

jacob · « **Reply #1552 on:** October 23, 2006, 06:28:56 PM »

Dave,

My understanding is that the higher frequencies are simply used to rotate the magnetic field at just the right frequency so that the length of the collector coil(s) scanned by the rotating flux during a one second interval is a specific fractional wavelength of 7.X hz, at which point the collector somehow becomes resonant with the magnetic wave we desire to tap. And when this happens, the collector starts to do what its name implies: collecting (extra energy).

God bless,

Jacob

jacob · « **Reply #1553 on:** October 23, 2006, 07:02:07 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on October 23, 2006, 06:48:56 PM

Quote from: JackFrost on October 23, 2006, 06:27:33 PM
@Jacob,

Are you refering to the vector potential? Sounds more plausible than coupling with perpendicular coils...
If we look at a torroidal transformer, no magnetic field exists outside the core. There is no magnetic field (B) in the region of the secondary coil. Only the Vector A potential exists outside the core and this interacts with the secondary coil. But if you have a secondary at 90 degrees inside the zero B field region, it still won't couple. It seems to obey the same law?

Dave.

Dave,

The collector must not be seen as a secondary winding. In this case, I think you have to look at it more in the context of this comment by Bill Beaty:

"Here's the interesting part. If we wish to receive power rather than signals, a critical issue arises.

Driving a tiny antenna with a large signal will create large currents and heat the antenna. Small antennas are inefficient when compared to half-wave dipoles. If we wish to maximize the virtual aperature of a really tiny antenna (e.g. make our 10KHz pie-plate coil act 10KM across,) we'll quickly be frustrated by wire heating. All the extra received energy will go into warming the copper. Possible solutions: use superconductor loops, or at low frequencies use the nearest equivalent to an AC-driven superconductor: a rotating permanent magnet or rotating capacitor plates. "

As for the field outside of the core, don't forget that this is air core. So by driving the control coils like in your video, there will be field lines in the center region of the toroid.

God bless,

Jacob

jacob · « **Reply #1554 on:** October 23, 2006, 08:06:53 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on October 23, 2006, 07:09:36 PM

Ok, I see what you are saying.

There is no direct coupling... It just creates a condition which allows the collector to collect energy from outside the system, but more than that, suck it in, like the imploding TV set!

Regards,

Dave.

Bingo!

JackFrost · « **Reply #1555 on:** October 23, 2006, 08:15:31 PM »

I have read some papers about a connection between gravity and the A-vector and I know that in a wound toroid core, with the magnetic field in the core, the A-vector is in the center of the ring, and that a loop of wire around the core - through the center will indicate the A-vector.

I would venture to guess that SM's device is tapping gravitational energy - hence the "upside down" issue...hmmm

jacob · « **Reply #1556 on:** October 23, 2006, 08:35:35 PM »

Quote from: JackFrost on October 23, 2006, 08:15:31 PM

I have read some papers about a connection between gravity and the A-vector and I know that in a wound toroid core, with the magnetic field in the core, the A-vector is in the center of the ring, and that a loop of wire around the core - through the center will indicate the A-vector.

I would venture to guess that SM's device is tapping gravitational energy - hence the "upside down" issue...hmmm

Hello Jack,

Can you post a link about this?

God bless,

Jacob

JackFrost · « **Reply #1557 on:** October 23, 2006, 08:55:11 PM »

Dave,

Didn't you duplicate the Telos experiment? Wasn't part of that test a measurement with a electrostatic meter? (Maybe I'm getting you mixed up with Naudin.)

Anyway, It have been shown that the underlying vector fields of B and H (A and ?) are the "true" sources of B and H. It has also been shown that the electric vector potential (?) is the source of A and therefore B.

Can we get a quick summary on this thread to date? I don't have a month to read the entire thing and don't want to re-walk the path.

giantkiller · « **Reply #1558 on:** October 23, 2006, 09:26:45 PM »

I haven't seen this dual freq configuration posted yet.
They could be equal or different either way.
I come to this conclusion because SM had a single layer segmented coil working and I believe this is another valid configuration.

--giantkiller

JackFrost · « **Reply #1559 on:** October 23, 2006, 09:38:19 PM »

Dave,

What about longitudinal waves? (Dare I add "in a medium" to that question.)

Since when does the primary electrical field require a mass to couple to?

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