Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1243101 times)

fcpeace17 · « **Reply #1530 on:** October 23, 2006, 12:00:49 AM »

Quote from: -[marco]- on October 22, 2006, 10:25:38 PM

Quote from: fcpeace17 on October 22, 2006, 10:17:24 PM
my post was lost in the horrible quote i did but bassically my question is, if you have 2 coils A and B and they are resonating to create spikes, then the resulting spike resonant frequency is a harmonic of a third coil (which may be tuned to an earth frequency) which will cause a 2nd climb in amplitude. Then say that final amplitude jump is a frequency that resonates one of the original A or B's or both, it seems like this will credate a viscious cycle. sorry for the not so good description. Evan

hi ,
i had to read it 3 times but i think you mean,

2 coils are resonating at a frequency and the signal comming out of that is resonating with an earth frequency so the final product is the peak from 1 and 2 plus the peak from the earth so we have more than we put into.

or isnt that what you mean?
sometimes i also hava hard time expressing what i mean
marco.

Yes, this is what i meant, it wouldnt have to be an earth frequency neccisarily, it could be a third coil which is set to a certain frequency. Then i wonder if that 1+2+3 frequency (3 being the "earth frequency"), could be fed back into the system to somehow resonate with 1 and 2 again. then that would resonate 3 and so on, going back to the begining again except growing eachtime. is it possible to feed the 3 back in so that it resonates with the initial 1 and 2 frequecies again. Evan

starcruiser · « **Reply #1531 on:** October 23, 2006, 12:07:44 AM »

@Dave,

I started the build on the small torrid for the signal generator and ran into a snag, it seems I did not have a Germainium diode and the local radio shack doesn't carry them any longer. So it appears that I will need to wait until Monday to go out and locate some. Not many parts stores open on Sunday

I did snap a few pix showing the build though, I used a piece of 5/8 inch plywood cut using a hole saw (2'' dia) with a 7/8'' center hole. I wrapped it using 26 gauge magnet wire (about 11 feet of it).

I will be posting more results as I move this along.

Mr_Video · « **Reply #1532 on:** October 23, 2006, 12:40:31 AM »

Quote from: ctglabs on October 23, 2006, 12:17:00 AM

Hey Carl,

Nice work! Looking forward to your results.

If you cannot get OA90/91, you can try 1n4001?

What is the resonant frequency to be? If its 7.8Hz it will be many henrys or a very large cap? Or are you going for a higher frequency and supply a seperate signal with a generator for now?

Dave.

I don't know why he needs a germanium diode,
but a 1N4001 isn't the same, a 1N4001 is a silicon hi current diode and it has a higher voltage drop across it than a germanium diode does .

starcruiser · « **Reply #1533 on:** October 23, 2006, 01:24:04 AM »

@ave,

Thanks for the cudos on the work. I require a germainium since it has a very low voltage drop when detecting signals, I believe it is an IN34. I tried a standard signal diode and got something but nowhere nearly enough. The main coil was resonating around 900 hz but was jumping around a bit so I am thinking a large cap inconjunction with the small coil to get the resonant frequency lower. I am trying for 924hz for a starter then to see if I can get it down even futher to between 7 and 12 Hz.

BTW, here is a pix of the coil I am working with now.

starcruiser · « **Reply #1534 on:** October 23, 2006, 02:44:44 AM »

Quote from: Kosh on October 23, 2006, 02:28:35 AM

Quote from: starcruiser on October 23, 2006, 01:24:04 AM
I require a germainium since it has a very low voltage drop when detecting signals, I believe it is an IN34. I tried a standard signal diode and got something but nowhere nearly enough.

You should try a Schottky diode like the BAT series. (BAT52, BAT65, etc...)
They have 0.2V drop.

Kosh

Kosh,

I was reading that the Schottky diodes require a bit of bias before they work properly (I may be off base on this) and I am trying to create a signal source that requires no external power this is why I am looking at a crystal radio type of design, thus the germanium since it does not require any external bias.

Do you think the Schottky would do in this situation?

giantkiller · « **Reply #1535 on:** October 23, 2006, 05:16:07 AM »

@Kosh,
But still, on the trailing edge of the square wave you get a higher amplitude on the output signal. I see that as very encouraging. what are the specs there:
collector turns , gauge, solid or stranded, length of wire.
controllers turns, gauge, solid or stranded, length of wire. And I see the winding as coming from the clockwise edge starting underneath. The way you have or the reverse? Mine are the same way as yours. What direction is true?
And I also got a collector buckle where the controllers end up at. And thanks for the 200khz. I am at the 7.xhz range and haven't noticed anything. Could your 200khz be the right freq for the gauge and turns?
Man, that is one great looking coil! I noticed that SMs are too. That is encouraging also. I would hate to have something that works be fugly.

@all coil builders...
Very, very nice work and magnificently beautiful coils!

--giantkiller

gn0stik · « **Reply #1536 on:** October 23, 2006, 06:59:20 AM »

Quote from: -[marco]- on October 22, 2006, 08:39:34 PM

Dr.Boren has a cogent argument that the positron is the fundamental unit of magnetic charge.
His theory thus assigns fundamentally diffrent natures to positive charge and negative charge.
In support of Dr.Boren, one should point out that the "positive" end of circuits can simply be "less negative" than the negative end.
In other words, the circuit works simply from higher accumulation of negative charges (the "negative" end) to a lesser accumulation of negative charges (the "positive" end)
Nowhere need there be positive charges (protons, positrons, etc.) to make the circuit work.

Problem with this is, that positrons are antimatter counterparts of electrons. They cannot exist in the same wire at the same time without obliterating eachother and a whole lot of mass in the direct vicinity. Therefor positrons cannot be the basic unit of magnetic charge since magnetic charge is everywhere, that would necessitate positrons being everywhere in the direct vicinity of electrons.

mrd10 · « **Reply #1537 on:** October 23, 2006, 09:33:16 AM »

To iterate on my post on tuning fork, (resonance freq) that i made on pos 261:-
check out the pdf, the frequency of tuning fork is dependant on the length, and also the spacing between the two prongs

I reckon by using this as a reference we can work out the circumference of the toroid. I havent had a chance to look on the net for tuning fork parameters. I'll look into this as well, so basically the longer the prongs the lower the frequency. 95mm length = 329.6hz and 85mm length = 440hz, you guys can buy these and see for yourselves. There cheap too.

ok working on the freq and lenght of tunning forks,:-

Music note A:-
85mm L = 440hz

Music Note E:-
95mm(L) = 329.6hz

Therefore the difference between these two are 110.4hz @ 10mm(L)

so:-

105mm(L) = 219.2hz

115mm(L) = 108.8hz

110.4hz/10mm(L) = 11.04hz, therefore:-

@ 7.28hz our length should be close to 125 mm, prob between 120 and 125mm
which is inbetween 4 and 5 inches, this is the diameter of the SM ring

I'm assuming here that the spacing will make a difference as well, but for simplistic sake we will keep that just under 2 inches.

Thats where i'll be starting anyway, now i guess I have to build a tuning cct to receive 7.28hz, or would the rings be part of that?

Cheers,

Dom

mrd10 · « **Reply #1538 on:** October 23, 2006, 10:08:57 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuning_fork

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/music/tunfor.html

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/mmedia/waves/tfl.html
This is an awesome link, once you understand this, i think SM, coil, infact i know it would become clearer, again listen to his first video that was made, and make the connection. From lesson 3:-

Lesson 3: Behavior of Sound Waves

Wave interference is the phenomenon which occurs when two waves meet while traveling along the same medium. The interference of waves causes the medium to take on a shape which results from the net effect of the two individual waves upon the particles of the medium. As mentioned in a previous unit of The Physics Classroom, if two crests having the same shape meet up with one another while traveling in opposite directions along a medium, the medium will take on the shape of a crest with twice the amplitude of the two interfering crests. This type of interference is known as constructive interference.

Dom

hartiberlin · « **Reply #1539 on:** October 23, 2006, 11:34:06 AM »

Quote from: mkt3920 on October 22, 2006, 05:42:54 PM

Post from Mannix with info from the Professor:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,712.msg13688.html#msg13688

Kent

Maybe we can locate this John Sanchez and ask him questions about it ?

Or finally find a few people, who were in the other videos ?

Quote:
"With me was John Sanchez "

Who is this John Sanchez ?
Is he also from the university were
`the deceased
Roland Schinzinger
PhD.
29 Gilman St. Irvine, CA 92715-2703, Phone & FAX: (714) 786-7691
at his laboratory at the UCI campus
lived ?

Maybe someone living nearby this campus can check that out ?
Many thanks.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #1540 on:** October 23, 2006, 11:45:27 AM »

Quote from: Kosh on October 22, 2006, 11:01:32 PM

I have found that the spikes at my output coil are just capacitive transfer from the control coil.
The control coils can even be left one side disconnected that the spikes remain the same.
Pulsing the control coils at 1.3MHz excites a resonance around 3x that frequency on the output coil. The power available is nothing. A 1Mohm resistor totally damped that oscillation.

So, nothing new here. We must look for something completely different...

Hmm, did you modify your control coils at all ?
only 2 windings is a bit too low I guess, so you could
not see much...I guess you would need at least 100 windings to see
something at all and over a larger surface area of the output coil.

Interestingly is your statement that all the energy
transfer is purely capacitively and that a shortout of the output coil
does not need more input power of the driver circuit.

So the next question is, how much power can you get out of the
output coil when you have optimized it and that does not reflect back onto the
needed input power...
So can Lentz law being broken with it ?

hartiberlin · « **Reply #1541 on:** October 23, 2006, 11:47:26 AM »

Quote from: starcruiser on October 22, 2006, 11:52:46 PM

Kosh,

I re-did my experiement with pulsing my torrid via the control coil and observed the same results as you, a ringing waveform in the large coil. Just validating your experiement since I had also experienced this before.

starcruiser,
what do you exactly show here ?
The output coil ?
At which timebase setting and is this just after the control
coil has shut off or when ?
How long was the control coil pulse ?

Thanks.

mrd10 · « **Reply #1542 on:** October 23, 2006, 11:57:01 AM »

Quote from: ctglabs on October 23, 2006, 10:58:12 AM

Dear all,

I have created a page on my site which will contain any good SM details. So far it just contains the videos which you can download and keep.

More to come soon...

SM Page: http://www.ctglabs.com/stevenmark/smindex.htm

Main Page http://www.ctglabs.com

Regards,

Dave.

Hi Dave,

Very nice site, I like it, hey add this video to your collection:- http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-6540638039071490742&q=Electromagnetic+generator
It sounds like that guy from the elemental rods video,
I think its the same guy, by his voice.

Cheers,

Dom

hartiberlin · « **Reply #1543 on:** October 23, 2006, 11:56:35 AM »

Quote from: Kosh on October 23, 2006, 03:48:40 AM

New coil, same results... Have to try again with bailing wire...

Hi Kosh,
now I see, that you get about 6 Volts peek2peek output on your
output coil and the spikes now have real area under them,
so no real spikes with low energy, but real waves with
energy in them.

Is this the unloaded output coil shown ?
What about a load on the output coil ?
Can you show the difference in output scope shots with
load and w/o a load ?

Are you pulsing at the resonance frequency of the blue
output coil yet ?
What is its resonance frequency ?
Maybe put a capacitor in parallel with the output coil and
thus lower the frequency and try again.

Many thanks for your tests...

Regards, Stefan.

mrd10 · « **Reply #1544 on:** October 23, 2006, 01:26:10 PM »

Ok DAve,

Yeh theres alot of crap on the net, and its easy to make shit up. Its a real shame for people to do that, I can see no point in it, other than frustrate the people who want a better world.

Have you been reading my posts?
I believe your correct that this power source for SM device has to come from somewhere other than that we know of.

From the facts ive gathered these are the things which stand out

-2 rings
-a set of coils ...lol obviously
-magnetic field and resonance .......relate to two prong tuning fork and the fact SM devices vibrate

I've made calculation from the two tuning forks that i had, that the inner diameter should be about 125mm, for 7.8hz.

Anyway lets keep at it. Im Eager

cheers,

Dom

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