Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1243096 times)

supersam · « **Reply #1185 on:** October 11, 2006, 05:53:13 AM »

sorry,

i try to read, and think about every post. i think you guys posted those maybe when we were having so much trouble all of a sudden going forward, and it seemed to be impossible to go back. i must have missed it, however it looks to me like ther are some different equations in the article starcruiser posted tonight. it might be worth taking a look at.

lol
sam

mikestocks2006 · « **Reply #1186 on:** October 11, 2006, 06:06:52 AM »

Quote from: giantkiller on October 11, 2006, 05:13:49 AM

Quote from: mikestocks2006 on October 11, 2006, 04:31:17 AM
yes, I had also posted something similar here for the 7.8Hz geofield frequency.

A sample toroid would be:

To get to 7.8 Hz and with use of an external capacitor
An example configuration, calculates
External C approx 39mF
Toroidal radius 10 cm
Coil radius 4 cm
Number of turns 1000
Air core

Whould that do it? Using a permanent magnet to start the first oscillation and then let the geofield take over?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,712.msg13840.html#msg13840
and
formulas here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,712.msg13779.html#msg13779

Seems like this would be the obvious starting point. That would explain again why when the device is turned sideways 'it don't work'.
The loop is not pointing at the source...
Thanks guys,

Pigs fly!

"The loop is not pointing at the source..."
Exactly! it seems the coils arrangement has a directional amplification orientation to it.

I also think that the toroid is closed and the other coils are used for draining the resonant energy collected in it and power the load
I posted some possible configurations here

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,712.msg13952.html#msg13952

After looking at one of the videos, the one with the most simple torus about 5" dia placed on the glass table, I thought with the old proven KISS principle the following could be a safe first assumption:

a. a closed loop energy amplification main toroid with a base resonating frequency of 7.4 - 7.8 Hz
b. a number of output (and possibly control) coils that can be
c. inside the energy collection and amplification toroid in different orientations?
or
d. interwoven with the main toroid
or
e. some of the output coils are actually part (sections of the toroid/spliced wires)
or
f. some combination of the above

I was thinking closed end toroid since it appears to be self powering.
with possibility (e) one will actually remove current directly from the source without physically introducting another coil inside?
Just thinking out loud.

Thanks folks for a very interesting thread. Nice links, pics, info.

BTW, giantkiller you are right, in matter of speech, pigs do fly.

When Boeing engineers first came up with the 747 design, there were huge doubts from many of them and just about all management that the plane would fly as it would be too heavy at take off. And yet it became the most successful volume carrier ever built

supersam · « **Reply #1187 on:** October 11, 2006, 06:36:10 AM »

stephan,
WHY ALL OF THE SUDDEN DO WE HAVE TO WAIT 30-45 SECONDS, WITH A HIGH SPEED DSL CONECTION FOR, "BANNERS", WHEN THE SAME BANNERS ARE BEING POSTED ON EVERY PAGE. THIS JUST DOESN'T MAKE GOOD COMMON WALK ABOUT SINCE!!!!! ESPECIALLY SINCE I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS THREAD SINCE ABOUT PAGE 10. I KNOW BETTER!!!!! WHAT EVER YOU HAVE CHANGED CAN YOU PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK. IT HAS DRIVEN YOUR WEB SITE INTO THE DIALUP AGE OR BEYOND!!!!!

MIKESTOCK, AND GIANTKILLER,

if you can go back to the mannix post somewhere around page 315, where steven has sent him the letter from the college professor that looked at and tested his machines it gives us the measurements of the outside demensions of the coils, possibly we can now begin to make some since of it. i think what is happening is a lot of stuff may be getting dropped through the cracks because of all the delays in navigating the sight and in the time it takes to post. i think alot of posts are getting scrambled.

in other words, guys i didn't mean to miss the posts you sent and was acctually posting at the time. if that is the case if i got the prompt that someone else had posted, IWOULD HAVE GONE BACK TO SEE WHAT I MISSED. but i never saw those posts. the closest thing i saw was someone that had caluculated the size of the 7.8Hz antenna to be several meters in diameter and another post by i think tao that refered to another sight where it was pointed out that the size could be greatly reduced by adding current.

i think if someone can now go back or has already saved the post location of the mannix post, with the letter to steven, then we might be able to make a good enough guess as to how to wind a coil to maybe get in the ballpark, and with a little tuning or balancing maybe, someone will get lucky or smart.

lol

sam

ps:
keep up the good work.

supersam · « **Reply #1188 on:** October 11, 2006, 08:58:01 AM »

dave,

GET UM!!!!!!!!

LOL
SAM

ps:did i miss another post where stephan explained why his whole sight seems to be crashing?

supersam · « **Reply #1189 on:** October 11, 2006, 09:35:55 AM »

dave,

here, when you tell your badest "DOG", GETUM! that means for whoever is out there, "WATCHOUT", when you tell your , badest dog, "ANNNNT", that means he better not do it!!!!

please don't take this the wrong way. i live in BULLDOG country.

i still think you are on the right path. i am starting to think you might be on to something more than you think. at least if we can put two and two together still.

lol
sam

supersam · « **Reply #1190 on:** October 11, 2006, 09:43:36 AM »

dave,

is there any way to get that doubled sign wave, "kick" into one of those capistors?

sam

mrd10 · « **Reply #1191 on:** October 11, 2006, 10:55:05 AM »

Quote from: giantkiller on October 11, 2006, 01:45:15 AM

@Starcruiser
We know that loop antennae when facing the source of emmisions will show the strongest signs of reception. Our source now just happens to be in the center. The diameter or radius of the loop has to, in our case, matche the effective wavelength of the harmonic freak wave of the 2 freqs harmonizing together. The freak wave being made up of the spikes off the square waves. Geez, they would be huge. Then connected to the loop you would have an lc tank tuned between the 2 starting freqs to pass on the captured freak wave power. Or why not just a diode bridge and extract it all. So 3 things have to match, the 2 freqs for the harmonic wave, the distance of the loop antennae, and the loop coil windings. What if one would use exite the top coil with one freq and the bottom coil with the other freq and the collector just sits in the middle. That way instead of trying to match 2 electrical freqs you actually are letting the magnetic freqs do the work. Oh, sh*t! especially if they are counter rotating? The interference would be larger across the collector/antennae.

Do I have log in my eye or isn't anybody else seeing this?

We still have 3 things to contend with:
1.) Self starting or not (I don't know what's here, but if you solve #3 the rest will probably solve themselves by working backwards.)
2.) The toroid having rotational and gyroscopic qualities (segmented air( for not saturation, total field collapse) coils)
3.) Immense power out (the product of the square wave bemf harmonic tuned antennae/circuit)

Hi Giant Killer, your right, spot on, I noticed this, from his first early prototypes, he is using two rings, its evident that all the other ones are probably designed the same way, so you produce two frequencies on each ring and power which is collected is in the middle, something like that, I think we should stick with his earlier design, Thats what I will be starting off with anyway, just wanted to know if any other builders have gone this way.

mrd10 · « **Reply #1192 on:** October 11, 2006, 11:13:38 AM »

Hey Dave,

Before you go on leave, regarding the transformer experiment you did, if its easy enough for you to do, could you try 4 transformers, i.e 3 are fed with sinewaves into the 4th output transformer, i'm just curious what would happen. Also I'm trying to understand what your doing with the caps and inductor, maybe in lamans terms you could explain it, sorry if i ask, just my level of understanding at this time isn't upto scratch, I know ive got some reading to do. I used to build kits and my electronic theory needs abit of a refresher.

Cheers Champ,

Dom

mrd10 · « **Reply #1193 on:** October 11, 2006, 11:27:16 AM »

Hi Dave,

Again, sorry my understanding in antannaes and coils is simple at best, I'm new to this stuff and i don't understand fully how the earths magnetic field plays in all this, I was probably just going by what sm said the electrons in a wire interact with earths magnetic field, this i guess he was talking about his kicks.

Your right about his second version, there two rings which look bare, and though this maybe the case, its still two rings and i feel its this type of setup that will somehow give us the result. Again sorry im still new to this coil building and need to learn this, so im just looking and observing how he has them setup.

The first coil his made, correct me if im wrong he looks like he has bailing wire on both rings but in 4 segments in total, i.e two ontop and two on the bottom, and going by what giantkiller was saying, applying one freq on one, and another on the other might be whats making this work.

again im thinking KISS

lol

Dom

mrd10 · « **Reply #1194 on:** October 11, 2006, 11:47:22 AM »

Hey Marco, tell us please...more detail.....lol

2 rings, 2 rings, 2 rings , 2 rings some coils

2 rings.....could this be all guys think of his early ones the first videos made

2 rings

hmm potential between the two 2 rings do i know what im talking about, do i sound like an idiot....maybe
but maybe we need to look at this from a fools perspective, and that can be me...i have no shame

2 rings

Dom

mrd10 · « **Reply #1195 on:** October 11, 2006, 11:51:37 AM »

sorry about my previous post....i get excited

It's possible , could it be , but look again and see, that sm device has two rings
its simple, no mass circuitry just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other.

Yousy

Unbelievably simple, ...is this how the wheel was discovered all those years ago.....lol

Dom

mrd10 · « **Reply #1196 on:** October 11, 2006, 12:35:17 PM »

Hi Dave,

Thanks for replying, I thought that maybe I was being too pushy by asking so many questions, I'll have to get experimenting and learning that way.
So to make it in simple terms, regarding the 2 caps and inductor, basically its a ping pong effect, one cap which is charged gets induced into an inductor, when switched that is, then that switch is then in open position, so then the inductor gets switched to the second cap, hopefully with the same charge it started off with going into second inductor and vice versa, so while you put a load on, there should be no loss, as there is always movement from one to the other, Im guessing this is what were trying to do, .......wow.....heheheh i hope i got that right

Again thanks,

This forum rocks

Dom

mrd10 · « **Reply #1197 on:** October 11, 2006, 03:06:07 PM »

cool

mrd10 · « **Reply #1198 on:** October 11, 2006, 03:10:37 PM »

Hi Marco,

I can here the echo, this could do with the 2 ring setup, some resonance between the two happening or something to that effect.
Try putting a magnet near by the coils, to see if it makes a difference, perhaps it will boost this echo.

Cheers,

Dom

gn0stik · « **Reply #1199 on:** October 11, 2006, 04:04:28 PM »

Holy crap. I go to sleep and you guys make break throughs without me.

I see how it is. !!!

Congrats marco!..

OK, so the magnet in proximity is a good suggestion. Also, have you placed a compass near by? Seems the voltage would be too small to make it work, but maybe not. Is that a rotating field?

Another note, I noticed the two toroids are of different diameters, SM said the size of the diameter matters. Perhaps if you had two identical toroids it would work better? Or maybe three? Also, what happens when the outermost control is wrapped around the two(or three). There's still a layer of windings missing

...

I'm getting excited here folks.

Rich...

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