@Dave,
In line with your scope shot request: what are you using, pc & sound card, pc card & software combo? I have the Heathkit with only a screen and data outputs.

I also can't find the schem to the 8/16 trace scope add on. But I will keep looking. The circuit is pretty simple though.
8 channels are fed to a 74151 which are addressed with a 74193. That is clocked by a 555. the 193s are wired to a 7404 hex inverter(only 4 are used) then to a resistor ladder and out to the scope. Only works for ttl as 74 series.

Thanks, giantkiller.

Steven said it is like a antenna, think of it as a magnetic collector tricking part of the Earth's field into thinking it is part of the generated field and then collapsing through the windings with the origanal field.
The 1 on the left has clockwise innercoils and CCW outer, the center one has 6 sections instead of 4(romancing inertial force, the right 1 has all clockwize wraps with a longitudal wrap to check for output there. Check the pic with the large coil closely and the output wire position on the 6 inch coil and you will see why I did that.

Stephen your going to be mad at me, I down sized the pic with photo shop and then screwed up and posted the full sized one. I don't know how to delete it. I tried to swap it with edit and it was trying to add the right pic on top of it. I stopped before that happened. No use adding insult on top of injury. Could you please wipe it for me?

@dave
attached scope 8/16 schem

Merry Christmas to all.

Quote from: hartiberlin on October 10, 2006, 12:17:52 AM

@Dave,
maybe you can just drive the 2 x 12 Volts transformer with the same noise generator
and just see, if the 240 Volts output cancels all out ?
There might be still some output, when you use noise as the source and drive the core
with it into saturation,so the input should at least be 0.5 Watts or so...

Many thanks.

Here you go...

Many thanks, but what circuit diagram was used for the 3 scope shots ?
You can just describe it.
What voltage levels did you feed the transformers with ?
12 Volts peek to peek or lower ?
Many thanks Dave.

Quote from: ctglabs on October 10, 2006, 12:01:49 AM

Also the device would need to be a certain way up for the lorentz force to act in the right direction, so turning upside down could stop it like Darren says.

Think of it as a positive feedback due to Earth's magnetic field when the TPU is at the correct orientation and a negative feedback when not.

Maybe this positive feedback is what we need to generate and maintain some form of oscillation.

I had a phone conversation with Peter Lindemann a while back and we got to talking about some of Gray and Tesla's work. We spoke about the exact same thing SM described when he threw the switch on the dynamos. He eplained to me that what Gray found was that when you "pop" a circuit with a burst of power, via a spark gap, or some other instantaneous method voltage rises to compensate for the lack of a current path. He said that there is actually an equivalence between voltage and current at aproximately 10,000 to One, volts to amps. And that potential absolutely has to have a path once introduced to a wire. If it doesn't it will rise to compensate, how much will it rise? Depends on the resistance of the wire itself. He said it's all explained in either "the secrets of cold war technology" by Vasilatos, or "on light and other high frequency phenomena" by Tesla. I can't remember which one. At any rate, that would explain the kick quite nicely.

What happens when the equivalence is met? A current path is again created, and hence a magnetic field. Protons in the copper try desperately to align with the local magnetic field, as this new current flows. The local magnetic field being the earths. However, due to spin they are like little gyroscopes and cannot align perfectly right away, they have to sort of wobble towards it, this is called precession. Protonic precession causes eddy currents in metals in a close proximity (think metal detectors). Now what metals do we have in close proximity to this process? Why, The collector coils.

So now we have gyroscopic force, heat, due to the eddy currents, and power out of nowhere.

Of course this all hinges on whether Lindemann was right, and hence Tesla, or Vassilatos.

The diagram I have posted back on whatever page that was, is designed specifically with these things in mind. As well as other things that SM/Mannix described, such as the spinning up effect, and the turbine forces. It's bifilar because of the descriptions of the "mystery" poster, which SM called essentially correct. (why we haven't tested that setup yet, I have no idea... but I cannot throw stones as I'm not a builder.)

At any rate, make of this as you wish. But if I had equipment, this is what I'd be testing.

Quote from: hartiberlin on October 10, 2006, 04:31:05 AM

Quote from: ctglabs on October 10, 2006, 12:39:33 AM

Quote from: hartiberlin on October 10, 2006, 12:17:52 AM

@Dave,
maybe you can just drive the 2 x 12 Volts transformer with the same noise generator
and just see, if the 240 Volts output cancels all out ?
There might be still some output, when you use noise as the source and drive the core
with it into saturation,so the input should at least be 0.5 Watts or so...

Many thanks.

Here you go...

Many thanks, but what circuit diagram was used for the 3 scope shots ?
You can just describe it.
What voltage levels did you feed the transformers with ?
12 Volts peek to peek or lower ?
Many thanks Dave.

The same as my 3 transformer experiment from before, but this time I fed whitenoise instead.  So white noise is fed in to the two transformers in parallel, then I changed the phases between the two transformers output in to the 3rd transformer to get results.  In in parellel and in phase the voltages adds again, outof phase it cancels to nothing.



Dave.

Dave,

Have you tried to use a white noise generator on one transforner and the 1khz signal source on the other? I am thinking your last go at the white noise test failed due to the fact the signal source was the same in both, maybe 2 separate signal sources so they are sufficiently randomized?

Just a thought.

BTW, I have finally got my second coil built and have been testing, I have been noticing that the length of the collector coil will impact the percieved frequency, i.e. the frequency input into the tickler coil (square wave at what ever frequency) will multiply itself in the collector. I feel this is due to the wavelength of the "Antenna" collector coil. and what it will resonate at. I am looking to adjust/tune the resonace of the collector coil to bring it to a harmonic of 7.8hz or maybe 925hz.

I should be able to post some data on my experiements this weekend, been rather busy with family duties so I have been squeezing testing in when possible.

regards,

Carl

Hey guys, I've been silently following this since day 1, I didn't have anything to add to further the progress so I have kept quiet. One way to maybe understand the operation of the TPU that might help, is how the kicks progress into generating usable electricity, I use the analogy of feedback between two Nextel phones or a mic and amplifier scenario. You can make a cluck sound, aim the mic into the face of the amp & depending on the distance from the amp it's easy to vary the intensity of the feedback.....
I figured I'd toss this out there for those who maybe following as well, but yet don't quite still have a solid understanding of how it operates....
Good or bad analogy?
My financed .02

As you guys were.... (not intending to dissuade the discussion)

-art

Raptor, the acoustical feedback is closely related to what Dave had done with this two xformers. What happens in an acoustical feedback system is the source and output become acoustically couple with 0 degrees phase shift and it creates a runaway db gain system. Dave has basically done this with electrical sine waves. The difference being that accoustical feed back is done via proximity of the source and output since it's an acoustical system, and hence is closed loop when too close. Daves superposition is created manually. We we still don't know if it's possible to close the loop yet, however, if you've ever seen a speaker stack explode because of feedback, you know the danger. We'd have to be very careful with closing the loop on dave's system. Dave you might want to copyright that as "electrical art". Just a thought.

Quote from: 2tiger on October 10, 2006, 04:33:10 PM

Hi Dave
Your setup with the 3 tansformers look very interessting to me.

Here is a little idea to kill all doubts about this setup.

This little circuit is like an electronic fuse. The page I linked is in german language, but the circuit is very simple, so there would be no problem for you to understand.

http://www.bayer-soft.de/elektro/strombeg/konstant.htm

Install this between your wave generator and T1 and T2. Perhaps you have to install a load (i.e. resistance, better would be a poti) in parallel to the both tranformers to ensure a certain current (i.e. 100 mA).
Without a load on T3, adjust the "fuse" now with the poti, so that you are able to messure a voltage on the output of T3.

Next step would be to connect a load to T3 and see if the "electronic fuse" reacts (switch off the power) or not.

If not then you got it. Power from nowhere!!!
Otherwise the fuse will switch off, and you will know that this "extrapower" on T3 was drawn from your wave generator.

Good luck with it.
Waiting for results.

kr
2tiger
 

 

Hi!  Very good idea!  I guess this is one way to tell for sure where the power is from!

There are many tests to perform with this yet to be sure of anything.

It maybe as Rich said a good idea to copyright it.  Any free energy device that comes from this forum should be free for everyone and not allowed to be suppressed or stolen by someone or a patent issued on it for no patented free energy device will ever come to market.  People out there may think that they are above suppression and they can patent something and we will all be driving round in fuelless cars and living on houses off the grid with free energy.  This will not happen until there is no oil left and then you will have to pay the energy companys for energy they make using scaled up free energy devices that have bought off inventors, etc.  These people run the world, through oil, the world is controlled, they have no problem killing people or a member of your family.

This information will be given away for free and for non-commerical use!

Now, back to it!  Can anyone else be bothered to get the transformers and try it themselves?  Are we here to make a free energy device or not?!

By the way, BMW have a hydrogen fuel cell car that makes enough power to run half a street and makes it from its own water on board, no need to store hydrogen.  The hydrogren is then made back in to water and sent back to the tank!  This has been shown on Top Gear in 2003 and driven at high speed.  Yet BMW are actively being suppressed from bringing it to market.  It works, its efficient, its clean and its high power, but where is it?

Regards,

Dave.

Dave this circuit would be good for placing between two of your circuits as well, as a method for runaway protection when closing the loop. It wouldn't prevent it of course but it would prevent meltdown, and save your gear for more testing.

If of course it confirms that it's really additional power.

This BMW thing is news to me! Very cool, and very saddening and frustrating at the same time. :/

At any rate, who's willing to replicate? Marco? JDO? GiantKiller? Stefan, how bout getting your hands dirty?