Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1242925 times)

mrd10 · « **Reply #1095 on:** October 08, 2006, 02:05:28 PM »

Hehehe ok Dave,

Maybe, I still don't know, I'm like a big kid, i know.

Are you able to make that 555timer dc to dc converter, and play around with the two transformer you have, or build two or 3 of the 555 timer ccts and see what happens when you use em together?

I was even going to use a magnet and place it near by to see if this makes any difference.

Cheers,

Dom

hartiberlin · « **Reply #1096 on:** October 08, 2006, 08:04:47 PM »

Hi Dave,
did you try to put the 2 transformer input and/or outputs in series ?
Probably not yet , right ?

Graham Gunderson has seen some strange results,
when he pulsed or fed one transformer with two 180 degres out of phase
signals, so that they normally cancel each other out.

He also could produce a strange "ray" this way, which was
some kind of scalar "beam" or something simular,
which could knock off or influence things at a distance.

It must be still in my old
yahoogroups free-energy archive
or in the yahoogroups
ou-builders@yahoogroups.com

He wanted to offer kits of this design,
but then he went with MPI, where he now
has this new solid state magnet patent.

But I guess Steven Mark also meant, you must put
pulses into ONE transformer, to get kicks out,
and this is best, if you do it with a bifilar coil
or 2 x 180 out of phase input coils to see
some kicks at the normally canceled output secondary
coil.

Graham said, he had some strange signals at the secondary
this way, but when I remember correctly, he pulsed the the
input coils on the same transformer and
when hold into a direction of some metal image hanging at
his ceilling wall a few meters away, it shook and
his device produced some kind of scalar wave.
Later he tested over distances of at least 50 to 100 Meters
and it was like a light beam he said.

Unfortunately he never published his whole setup in detail.

But it had to do with canceling out currents in
2 primary coils in a transformer and then the
secondary output coil showed strange results and
the thing also vibrated in very peculiar ways.
Also you could feel this ray with your hands, so
it was influencing biological cells.

So Dave, please try it with one transformer and
use one, which has or instance 240 Volt to 2 x 12 Volts.
Then use the 2 secondary 12 Volts windings to put
your input singnals in there , so that they cancel each other out
and look at the other 240 Volts coil, what will come out of it.
Please also test this with your noise generator.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #1097 on:** October 08, 2006, 08:12:39 PM »

P.S. If you put 2 transformers input coils in series
and drive it with noise,
the input current might not draw additional current from
the battery, when the 2 output coils are also in series ?!

gn0stik · « **Reply #1098 on:** October 08, 2006, 09:07:18 PM »

@Marco, can you film yourself turning that on please?

@dave, all due respect, but isn't white noise too dirty to tell when two white noise signals are combining? There are all kinds of natural spikes in white noise.

Also, I thought you were well into operation when the spikes occured in your experiemnt, not when you just turned it on.

Regards,
Rich

gn0stik · « **Reply #1099 on:** October 08, 2006, 09:21:37 PM »

Thanks man. Oh, and use your right hand to throw the switch keep your left behind your back... That thing sounds a bit scary.

@stefan, ok so the site is loading faster now that you have removed the banners, but now those automatic link things cause the site to throw a "site not found error" after it has already loaded, and it sends us to a dns error page, so that we have to refresh, what domain do those ads come from, so I can block them in my firewall?

mikestocks2006 · « **Reply #1100 on:** October 08, 2006, 10:30:19 PM »

Ok I have a very simple question.

Let's take a closed end toroid e.g. 1000 turns 10 cm radius with a base harmonic for 3.5 MHz

Mark the turn at 12 o'clock as 0
and let's say the turn at 3:00 o'clock as 250 (going clock wise)

Next splice a wire on the 0 turn and a wire at the 250 turn

Next apply a jolt of potential to those 2 wires

Do we have 2 sets of currents going through the toroid?
One current from turn 0 to turn 250 clock wise ( through consecutive turns 0, 1,2, ? 248,249,250 for a total of 250 turns and ? of the toroid)?

The other current from turn 0 to turn 250 counter clock wise (through consecutive turns 0, 999, 998,?252,251,250 for a total of 750 turns or the other ? of the toroid)?

Do we have 2 standing waves rushing through the toroid at opposite rotations at different frequencies and effectively amplifying each other when the amplitudes are in sync?

Shouldn?t there be splice location where max amplification at max freq results?

Possibly at exact opposites?, or some harmonic multiple divisor of 1000 (in the example above 1000 turns were used)
I keep thinking closed toroid since in that video the simplest design about 5" dia (the one he placed on the glass table) there seemed to be no outside power sources driving the toroid
Or maybe use a pm to kick start the proccess intead of an outside VA source.

Any insights will be appreciated. Thx

hartiberlin · « **Reply #1101 on:** October 08, 2006, 10:43:24 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on October 08, 2006, 09:56:23 PM

Hi Stefan,

I am a member of ou-builders, but I dont think there is anything about it there, although there is some of Grahams previous posts in a text file on there which is quite long.

Yes, but it is already a few years back.
The Yahoogroups also has not a good search engine,
so it is hard to search in these archives...

Quote

So, to place two signals both in the primary at once 180d out so they cancel, but see some signals on the secondary? Sounds interesting, I can try this.

Exactly,
please try it and also try to put 2 transformers in all various series/parallel
configurations.
Somehow the transformers can act on each other
espcially when you drive them with noise pulses..

Quote

Makes me think when SM says "electrons can travel in both directions at once".

Yes, maybe only one component cancels out and the non visible
scalar component adds up....

Graham and me exchanged a few emails during this time,
where he claimed, he could convert the scalar energy back
into electrical energy in a special crystal setup,
where 2 scalar waves did interfere and he was able to light
a fluorescent or neon lamp or something like this, when I remember correctly,
where the interference area of 2 scalar waves was...

Unfortunately he never did publish the real setup and I could
only guess, what he really did do...
But he said, he used ONE transformer, where he drove both
normal 12 Volts output coils 180 degrees out of phase probably
with strong pulses and at one of the core then came also this scalar wave
out, which he could also feel with his hands...

He said, when I remember right, that he also never had
totally canceled output at the 240 Volts coil, which he used
as his secondary.
He might have also shorted it out, so that the scalar wave
was stronger from the core.
He might have also modified the transformer core,
so that he might have removed one iron leg from it,
so that he could point the open core to distant objects...

Too bad, he did not come over here.
I did send him 3 weeks ago an invitation, when PMI announced
his patent, but so far he seems to be too busy to post over here...

Thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

giantkiller · « **Reply #1102 on:** October 08, 2006, 11:24:20 PM »

Hi all,
At the risk of sounding incredibly ignorant: I hope all the tests are with toroids. I am partial to air core so that nothing is in the way of the EM wave returning. But also the expansion to the center would cause the flux lines to squeeze or compress into the center building up force. And of course any change in windings would have to happen around the toroid. Can be expensive.
Is anybody with me on this? Should I go back to my desk and put my head down now?

I got the flu but I must go to Radio shack and get some 100 ohm resistors.

Ouch, I just had a thought: What if the harmonic happened in the center also? That would ripple power outward.
Also, with the kick, bemf. Its' been mentioned but how can it be kept in the circuit to sustain power?
We've always been taught to dump or bypass it. Which if you think about it. This simple fix/flaw is where we are at and it seems to me a whole nother area of hidden electronics. The Tesla side.

Thanks guys. This is enjoyable to follow along. I feel like sh*t. Contact Nite & day is really powerful meds for flu! But i can't afford to miss any postings. This 'Around the world in 24/7' is cool. Somebody is always up working.

giantkiller · « **Reply #1103 on:** October 08, 2006, 11:44:35 PM »

If you have the time for toroids: http://atlas.ch/atlas_photos/toroid/toroid_barrel.html

giantkiller · « **Reply #1104 on:** October 09, 2006, 12:01:22 AM »

@dave,
thanks. For the SMs there can be no saturation. And also with air you get the magnetic waves crossing through the center and through to the other side outside? Seems like that could happen becasue there is no magnetic barrier. The would make one very complex field with flux lines crossing spherically like a 3d spirographic pattern. If the flux lines cross each other at angles wouldn't that generate power?
Thanks for the reply.

orionjf · « **Reply #1105 on:** October 09, 2006, 02:27:06 AM »

Dear all,
First, congratulations to all team with a special mention for people who are building models and they are sharing results.
Dave (ctglabs), tao, .. I think the last ideas could be a key for a future (I hope sooner than later) understanding of SM device. So, Dave, go ahead with your experiments ?
Talking about the latest results, I want to give you my opinion, based on some similar tests with transformers. I think you are using a very high resistance for loading, then the transformer works as an ideal voltage generator (similar with an open circuit). This is a non-linear V-I relationship that can produce false results. If you try to change the load (use a variable resistor, for instance) and the V output does not change, that is. When you find the first (or the highest) load value that Vout decreases if you decrease the load, that is the minimum current that can cancel the flux generated by the primary. Beyond this point, the equation Vi*Ii=Vo*Io (without losses) is valid and the power is the same (in-out). But if Io is close to zero due to a high resistance in the output, Vo tends to infinite (Vo=Vi*Ii/Io) but it is limited by EMF value.
Then, I think you have to test a lower value for loading (1K for instance). Don?t worry if you have a very small voltage. Then make the measure of one input and output and two inputs and output. Maybe I am wrong but I had a lot of surprises in the past working with transformers in non-linear situations. If you get the same effect, GREAT !!!!! and congratulations again !!!!!!

I think it is a very good approach to mix signals, and the white noise can be a very good idea. You can ?mix? adding ? or multiplying. In the second case (similar to radio detection) you have a DC component and harmonics. Doing it n times, you have a very high DC component and a high freq.-low amplitude ripple. White noise has infinite energy due to the high (infinity) bandwidth, but it is not useful because the power (amplitude) is too small. But if we can ?concentrate? near to DC by freqs translation (multiply) a spread spectrum of noise, and then adding in an accumulative process, we have the same ?energy? but a lot of power near to DC. It is similar to concentrate in a few seconds (nuclear explosion) the natural radioactivity of uranium that runs billions years: you have the same energy but, obviously, more power. Just a thought maybe wrong.

Regards

giantkiller · « **Reply #1106 on:** October 09, 2006, 03:12:13 AM »

@dave!

Plz for the sake of prosperity. On your OU(if I may be so bold) transformer circuit, plug in the square wave to double the kicks! Maybe, no?
Maybe you scope will peg?

giantkiller · « **Reply #1107 on:** October 09, 2006, 04:50:28 AM »

@Tao
Great sims.

Although, reality does tend to play unfair sometimes...

hartiberlin · « **Reply #1108 on:** October 09, 2006, 04:57:39 AM »

Quote from: ctglabs on October 08, 2006, 10:55:25 PM

Stefan I have tried the out of phase idea using the circuit from my last post but having the phases the other way round so they cancel perfectly.

All I see on the scope is a dead line as the primary signals cancel. No strange feeling on my skin or lamps falling off the shelf! But I am using very lower power...

Regards,

Dave.

Hi Dave,
please try again and use something like a 240 to 2 x 6 Volts transformer.
Could also be 2 x 12 or 2 x 15 Volts .

Then drive the 2 coils, that are normally the secondary coils
with 2 noise generators, which are not synchron.
Do it this way, that the coils voltages would normally cancel
out each other.

Then look at the 240 Volts coil and see, if it has spikes.
Maybe you can drive a fluorescent tube with it.

The good thing should be, that if you load
the 240 Volts coil with a load, the other 2 input coils
should not be loaded much, that means, if you pull out more
power from the output, that should not need more input
power at the input.

Of course the question is, if you are at the right working
point on the BH diagram of the transformer core.
Could be, that you must bring the core into saturation or shortly
before this, so please try to put in not mikroWatts, but at least
a few hundred milliWatts.

If you don?t have 2 noise generators, you could also try
with 2 out of phase square wave generators.

Many thanks.

Regads, Stefan.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #1109 on:** October 09, 2006, 06:00:31 AM »

Quote from: tao on October 06, 2006, 08:12:19 AM

I figure now is as good a time as any to drop a BOMB OF COINCIDENCE concerning SM's words and a real phenomenon....

START SECTION THREE
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Steven Mark's Words
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These are direct quotes from Steven Mark about his devices:

Here SM says that his devices work like radio receivers:
Think of the power unit as a device similar to a radio receiver.No I do not want to hear feed back informing me that I am trying to convince the world my unit works on radio waves!!!.

Here SM says that his different devices use different frequencies and that the closer you get to the 'center frequency'/'ideal frequency' that you will permit more power output:
My units behave as though they are variable tuning devices, and we are tuning them to a frequency just like a radio. The closer you get to the center frequency the more power you permit the collector to dissipate into a load.

Here SM is saying something VERY IMPORTANT, that you make several frequencies in the SPACE OF THE COLLECTOR COILS CIRCUMFERENCE and that the DIAMETER/CIRCUMFERANCE determines the 'center frequency'/'ideal frequency' of his different devices, if Steven's collector coils are indeed loop antennas then this makes perfect sense, different circumferances, different 'center/idea frequencies':
The important difference here is that in the case of the radio, you tune into the frequency and amplify it for use. In the case of my power unit, you create several frequencies within a space of the collector coil's circumference. The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil.

Here SM talks about the signal source, i.e. the 'several frequencies in the SPACE OF THE COLLECTOR COILS CIRCUMFERENCE' having the characteristic that it has inherent gain:
You can begin to collect the current and dissipate it with no need for amplification because the signal source also becomes the feed for the power source and has the natural tendency to run with gain.

Here SM refers to the fact that if you were to tune directly to the 'center frequency'/'ideal frequency' which is based on the circumferance of the device, that you would destroy the device, well think about that, if SM used the technique from above and he stayed at one frequency and he looped the output at 1.5x COP to the input, then the device would surely be "instantly destroyed":
It is important that you note that you can never tune too closely to the exact frequencies of power conversion because the power received by the collector will instantly destroy it. We instead must deliberately tune off the frequencies of conversion in order to make the thing properly work.

Here SM is explaining that you must constantly move AROUND, i.e. above and below, the 'center/ideal frequency' because if you stay on it too long the device would smoke itself:
Remember that it is like a furnace which feeds itself. The hotter it gets the more fuel it gives itself to burn. that is why the control units are so very important. Without the control unit constantly monitoring the frequencies of operation and making the necessary changes to keep the whole thing off exact conversion frequency, then the unit would very quickly destroy it's self.

END SECTION THREE

I have MUCH more to say about Steven's words regarding the KICKS and combining KICKS, and how they exactly match the Hungarian scientist works above. I will guide you in detail through the exact similarities.

I will post more later, this took me a while to format and its 1am .

Almost forgot, here are the links to the above info from the Hungarians:

Free energy from wave-fields (Introduction):
http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/interference.htm

Simplified explanation how to gain free energy from wave-fields:
http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/studyexp.htm

Janos Vajda is ?Violation of The Energy Thesis in Wave-Fields? is here:
.DOC Format(self-extracting) = http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/study11_w.exe
.HTML Format = http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/study1.htm

Hi Tao,
nice, that you have found that.
It seems this is probably the most realistic explanation,
how the SM devices could work.

The question then is only,
why do they stop to work,
when you turn them around by 180 degrees ?

If this is the basic principle, it is sure, that you can start with a few millivolts
of induction by waiving a permanent magnet across the unit and
then the unit starts to run up.

But I think, this probably must be used with short pulses
traveling on transmission lines or coil wires,
but I guess the transformer setup, which Dave presented is flawed,
as I will post next.

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