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jacob

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #915 on: October 01, 2006, 06:42:25 PM »
The next step has definately taken place. It consists of haves and have nots. Those that have done and those have not.
A line has been drawn in the sand and 'Let those without Toroids cast the first stone'.

The most pertinent so far:
Tao release a diagram depicting the coil layouts.
Marcos has done an experiment that produced kicks from 2 frequencies. Great coil, guy!
CTGlabs now has done two experiments the produce sound. Has done an extreme amount of work!
CTGlabs has a biphase controller that is out of phase by 90 degrees.
giantkiller has 2 coils. It's me so I won't ponticate vainly.
giantkiller has a biphase controller that phase shifts harmonically by frequency and direction.
JDo300 built a coil. Another great step into producing something!
Otto built a coil but his image links did show on the post. Please put a pix in your avatar here?
And alot of postings about phased overlapping fields, kicks.
Also alot of flies in the ointment...
If I missed anybody, I apologize.

Hey, just wanted to help here. But I see that my contribution generates more scepticism than enthusiasm. Even antipathy it seems. Why that is, I have no idea. But I guess I will stay silent from now on. I'll still follow your work however because I am curious to know how long some of you can keep pushing away the evidence. Those who want to build a WORKING TPU will sooner or later have to reconsider.

I see all sorts of thing flying by. Some are even playing with concepts they don't understand. But the important thing is to ask: how does it fit in with what I have seen so far. And all theories about intricate methods to produce kicks that I have seen so far are:

 1. Extremely vague

 2. Don't fit with the notion of a passive device with no battery.

I am also an admirer of Nikola Tesla. He was a great genius! But all of you who seek answers to the TPU from his work should start by reading what is related to the TPU. In other words, READ what SM said about what in Tesla's work apply directly to the device. For instance:

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Then he continued his experiments and found that as a thunderstorm moved closer the magnetometers would register larger and larger fluctuations until they were off the scale and useless. 

He was fascinated and consumed by this. He acquired better magnetometers and his research found that you could tune the magnetometers to certain specific frequencies and tap directly into large magnetic waves. When I say large, I am referring to huge. That was useable power.

You have to read stuff like that. It says "tune... and tap directly". All of you should know how a tuner works I guess. Strangely, it seems easier to make things more complicated than to simplify them.

You also have to read stuff like this:

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Let us say that you have a magnetic field perhaps it is only a small permanent magnet. Now, you have a single copper wire twelve inches long. If you move the magnet across the surface of the wire from left to right at a certain speed you create an electron flow which is DC and it has a power potential based on how strong the field is and how fast the magnet if moved. So, if you increase the size of the magnet or the speed it moves you create a larger flow of electrons, larger as in higher voltage or more currant.
Everyone tells us that the earth's magnetic field is measured as being too insignificant to generate any useable power, that is not so.

Let me give you something to think about...  If you had a short wire and you moved a magnet across it you would always have limited potential because the length of wire was so short. OK now what if we increase the length of the wire to many miles in length even with a very weak magnetic field moving across the wire you still have a much greater potential flow of power available.  If we put it into a perspective of power per inch it may be easier to understand.

If you have a small magnetic field moving across a wire twelve inches long it can generate an electron flow equal to lets say one millivolt per inch. If you move the magnet twelve inches at the same speed you get 12 millivolts as you transgress the twelve inches of wire. Understand that I am trying to convey a principal that you can understand for use in the future.

Anyone who read those paragraphs and can't figure out the direction of the magnetic field related to the collector windings should read again... and again... and again.

In my first post, I said that if the current trend that seemed to develop keep on going forward, a working TPU could be build before the end of the year. Initially, I wanted to say "before the end of the month", but just decided to lower the objective not to frighten anyone. Well I must rephrase this: if the current trend continues and the evidence continues to be pushed aside, no TPU will ever be built.  

Anyway, I was about to disclose my strategy for finding the frequencies needed. But hey, this may not be the proper time or even the proper place to do so.

God Bless!

Regards,

Jacob  

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #916 on: October 01, 2006, 08:42:34 PM »
JACOB,
don't just run away because someone questions you idea!  trust me it will happen in this thread. that doesn't mean that your idea's are not being considered.  think of it as a learning experience.  trust me i have already done the shuttinup, shuttinup theory.  it only means that the forum doesn't have yoour input for that time.  trust me there is something you can add!!

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sam

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #917 on: October 01, 2006, 09:05:59 PM »
Jacob,
You're a genius! You just exposed a very old electronics trick by mentioning that the TPUs worked without a power source or battery. If those labels are interpreted in the common everyday terms then that is true. Prestidigtation. But we used to charge up caps and then discharge them later on. So when SM throws a switch, why? we never see anytime before or the true runtime of any of the 'self-powered' devices. It is only reported. We actually never have proof?
And by all means if you have an idea but don't make it physically, draw it in paint and post it! Your ideas never put down die with you. I started documenting here after I started diatribing. Later I found that 'MY' ideas were resurfacing as other people writings. I thought plagerism bigtime. Not so. So I then started searching by topic and then 'other users' to see if 'I' was a 'johnny come lately'. In some instances yes, I was and still am. But I found out how the Overunity search engine doesn't work as well as any of us need it. This thread implementation does not have a true 'Repository' function, so things get lost. Too much webbing. That is why I mentioned the 'print to offline search' method. It has helped me greatly. In one of my first posts here I hailed the power of knowledge contained herein. I also requested more avatars of built devices. Notice I said built, not completed or perfect. It was like a call to arms and boom! More avatars of things done. Hey I don't walk on water half the time so my designs are always in limbo. It is called Unit testing and verification. Also SM said that 'There is no power source in these devices that could produce this kind of output. No shit!. That is a semantical play on words. Social engineering in it's final hour. One could put a n-cell nicad through a buck-boost circuit to up the power. When the cap charges it ceases drawing power and waits, excluding the leakage which is minimal. Then SM throws a switch, viola, things work. I mean look at the info trail. SM talks through an interpreter. the interpretor relays that to a group. Someone else in the group claims to figure it out but again is in the 'Closed club' and won't release info. That is just enough info to cause the pontificators and diatribers to theorize uselessly. While the doers have to scrap and claw in the darkness. This is the old 'All knowing, all seeing' eye in Lord of the rings concept. It has been overplayed throughout history. Who are the heros down through history that topple the false kingdoms. My abacus doesn't have enough beads. Joan of Arc, Martin Luther, Martin Luther King, Constantine, Davinci, Copernicus, Kepler, Lincoln, Jesus Christ, Braveheart, Karen Silkwood, need a clue? Engineers work on the premise that the answer can be found and that there are no failures.
Everybodies post have value. No I am not justifying my previous comments. But every so often I gotta light a fire under some butts. A number of posters have gotten bit here by what they say. Hey, I live for the fight. Because that is what makes the truth stand out. Nobody is wrong, It's all good.
Now I gotta get back to my controller building. Damn, that ticking clock is up my hide. Where's that monkey. I wanna shoot something! I bet some of you out there think I'm crazy? When the toroids sqeal, we'll see.
Take care, all.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #918 on: October 01, 2006, 09:19:01 PM »

I will be writing my COMPLETE radiant energy theory, soon.....The way I REALLY think SM's devices work.

Hell, here is a sampler of the theory...(mind you, I am refining this..........)

Here are some terms, defined:
The segmented control coils around EACH of the 3 horizontal collector coils I shall refer to as the 'KICK coils'.
The 3 horizontal collector coils/wire of multistranded copper I will refer to as the 'collectors'.
The coil that surrounds all the other coils and spans the entire device I shall refer to as the 'feedback coil'.

Basically, there is a very sharp DC impulse applied to the KICK coils. This produces THREE THINGS, a B field that is parallel to the collectors, a B field that is contained IN the feedback coil, AND a 'radiant energy' 'apparent electron manifestation' on the collector coils(the more copper the more collected).

More later.................

Tao,

Going by the messages you received from SM, this should be the way to go. SM confirmed the use of radiant energy in them directly. None of the other theories takes that in account. Looking forward to your complete theory....

regards
Dutchy

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #919 on: October 01, 2006, 09:21:08 PM »
And another thing!...
In the last 125 post pages of the last 30 days, I have seen more posters, design ideas, designs, schematics, circuits, toriods, experiments, test results, qualified, quantified true findings and reports that at all other times in this thread!
Numerous posters have stated 'We are close!'. No how do ya think that happened?

We are a virtual team. There cannot be a single individual doing this. If so, they will be found and disappeared! We are results driven.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #920 on: October 01, 2006, 09:45:33 PM »
Jacob, I don't think Giant Killer's post was intended say that what you have posted is not pertinent. Note, he left me off the list as well. He just focuses on the people that are actually winding coils, not the theorizers like you, I and Tao. I don't think he meant anything by excluding you or me.

Any antipathy you might be feeling is probably due to the fact that you have around 50 posts on this board, and have all the answers. You have a kind of brazen, "my way or the highway" approach to this, which is a bit offensive..

Like I said, there are opposing view points on how this thing works, I'm not saying that your ideas are bad... It may in fact be the answer. However I have read EVERY SINGLE POST ON THIS BOARD.... Compiled all the data that is pertinent that comes directly from SM and Mannix, and every single post where SM has said either your on the "right track", or "you've got it." The imploding TV is one post... And it's not a post that was intended to cause us to throw away all other precepts of the device.

We need to study what about a TV could cause it to implode(which we have done)... Cause it to go runaway.. And figure out what that is, and apply it to all the other principles.

Note that SM has NO ferrite cores in his device? Something that simple tells me that well there might be alot missing.
So, you read further, past that. You keep winding, and working and theorizing and talking to SM and Mannix, and you get to the point they hand you a coil design. That is the coil design we are working with here. Now, since the imploding TV is something that amazed and him, and brought him partially to the genesis of the TPU, don't you think the principles of that discovery would have been incorporated into that design?

Now does that mean the working with deflectors is useless? NOT BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. You are right it was foundational to his research, as was the transformers out of phase, and that "all kinds of things going on"

We can learn a lot from old TVs. But it's a CONVERGENCE OF TECHNOLOGIES... As I said before.

The KICKS, SM has said, are the key, many times, with frustration. That's what we are focusing on. Baby steps.

If you can build a TPU that functions by the end of the month, feel free. We would all applaud you.

Nobody is dismissing your work... Just don't dismiss ours. We've been working at this a long time and SM and Mannix have confirmed that we are on the right track.

Now, if you'd like to take your ball and go home.. That's too bad, there's a position on the team. But make no mistake about it, we WILL get this thing built with or without you.

Regards,
Rich.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #921 on: October 01, 2006, 10:27:41 PM »
I sincerely apologize. In the future I will better temper myself and stay on task. :-[

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #922 on: October 01, 2006, 11:06:40 PM »
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« Last Edit: September 11, 2007, 01:47:57 AM by argona369 »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #923 on: October 02, 2006, 12:01:54 AM »
CONTACT

Have we had any direct contact with SM or is it all via Mr Mannix?

Cheers,

Dean


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #924 on: October 02, 2006, 12:10:37 AM »
CONTACT

Have we had any direct contact with SM or is it all via Mr Mannix?

Cheers,

Dean



For all we know Mannix IS SM.... However, we know absolutely nothing.. We work with what we have been given. I think Mannix is exactly who he say s he is. SM's friend, and protege. And no, SM has not spoken directly to us. He has given Lindsay messages for us.

If this is a reason however to question SM the validity of SM's messages to us, I ask this, why are we getting results exactly how he says we would, when we experiment exactly in the ways he has told us to? Anyone who has done the jumper cable experiment (which should be everyone here) has seen the kicks. The bottom line is, we have no real reason to doubt it. However, it is natural to question the validity of all this.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #925 on: October 02, 2006, 01:34:40 AM »
rich,
i hve been thinkinking about what you wrote earlier. how can the magnet waves be perpindicular to the collecter coils, if the wires in the control coils have a current running through them?

do longitudinal electric forces also carry a magnetic field?

please answer with some site information.

lol
sam

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #926 on: October 02, 2006, 01:43:16 AM »
rich,
i hve been thinkinking about what you wrote earlier. how can the magnet waves be perpindicular to the collecter coils, if the wires in the control coils have a current running through them?

do longitudinal electric forces also carry a magnetic field?

please answer with some site information.

lol
sam

Edit: oops posted too early.

Think polarity and alignment. It has nothing to do with the radiant effect. In fact, the induction portion is not meant to be a distraction. The field will act how we design it to act.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #927 on: October 02, 2006, 01:58:08 AM »
rich,

what?

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sam

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #928 on: October 02, 2006, 03:00:58 AM »
It seems quite clear to me that introducing the magnetic field is a random act that initialiases the cascade. The circuitry may have a random generator to keep the system imbalanced as described in the the information shared by marks. I mention this as those amongst us who have attemted magnet motor type inventions are very familiar with the locking of such systems due ( i believe) to the static nature of rotors and fixed position of magnets within the various systems. This is why i have tended to innovate in the proposals and prototypes I have created for the vortex magnet motor.

Just a little insight from the Mag Toy Boys.

Cheers,

Dean McGowan


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #929 on: October 02, 2006, 03:35:20 AM »
rich,

what?

lol
sam


Read this... It's a similar idea.
VERY SIMILAR...

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=Capacitor%20start%20motor

Google is your friend.... ;)