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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #900 on: October 01, 2006, 06:59:05 AM »
jacob,
where in the hell did you come up with that?  what in the hell did you think that made it pertinant?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #901 on: October 01, 2006, 07:43:33 AM »
Your coil picture is exactly what I have on my coil board. Your diagram is hardwired and the compliment coil pairs do not show their polarity. If your driving at 90 phase shift then all circuits need to be represented. Anyway. My coil board lets me change coils and/or lets me jumper any configuraton. Thanks for documenting one possible configuration for me. I am creating a plug -n- play coil breadboarding system. I put the coil mount in my avatar to spur others on. It also serves at part of the documentation process. The coil drivers portion will also be replacable to drive any coil changes.
I mention this in this fashion because those of us that have coil avatars displayed know the amount of work it takes to get to this state. If a coil is wrong one can feel defeated, and maybe lack of funds. My coils could be wrong. But the coil drive logic seems more sound than my coil parameters. I will follow through knowing that when the time comes for me to switch out my coil, the dynamics of all of our efforts will produce a workable solution. Boy, doesn't sound like a load of crap. The coil makers know it is tiring. My little one took 1 hour. My second one, with 4 segments, took four hours. And I know 2 coils are not enough. It is a labor of love. I bought 8 tip41 current drive transistors. Wrong. Now I have to get 8 MOSFETS, thanks Marcos. I have buz11s but they aren't as hi voltage as the irf840s. Don't know what I was thinking. The IRFs have the current bypass diodes on board. Regular TIPs don't.
Once  again the schematic is on page 211 and the coil open configuration is on page 157. This current attachment links both together logically.
And hey, be still and be at peace with one another.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #902 on: October 01, 2006, 07:46:33 AM »
Well that was goofy...
Visio 2k doesn't produce jpgs sometimes.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #903 on: October 01, 2006, 07:57:53 AM »
jacob,
where in the hell did you come up with that?  what in the hell did you think that made it pertinant?

sam

He's actually got a pretty decent Idea for rotating the fields. How much of what you post is pertinent?

the thing is, there are some opposing ideas on how this thing works. I suggest jacob build his ideas and report back, and someone get working on what Tao, and I have worked on since early in this thread.

Also, just so you know jacob, the magnetic fields tao talked about would NOT be perpendicular to the collector. It would be parallel to it, if the control wiring were perpendicular to the collector as magnetic fields expand off of a wire radially at right angles, which would line them up parallel with an inner coil that is run perpendicular to the wire being excited.

Another note. The standing waves you talked about Tao. If the upper and lower coil were wired in parallel, and the middle one was wired in series, or separate to these, it would create TWO of the standing waves you talked about not one. One between the upper and middle, and one between the lower and middle.

Also, if they counter-rotated, the ramp up effect would be much more pronounced, and detectable by a compass. If they rotated in the same direction it would happen so fast that it would be undetectable by a compass.

In addition to the two frequencies, I think there should be two different switching speeds as well. If the two fields rotated at the same speed you would have a collision point of both fields at the same spot on the coil all the time.
However if the switching speed was slightly different, as well as the frequencies, the collision point would advance just a tad at every revolution of both fields, As magnetic fields of the same polarity collide they are enhance at the point of collision(kick anyone?), giving you a net unidirectional rotation of the magnetic field, that is greater than the upper and lower fields alone could be.. Perpendicular to the collector. This would increase in speed as power increased until the unit reached it's full capacity. At which point it would likely no longer be detectable by a compass. The net unidirectional effect would in fact make it impotent when turned upside down. This would also give you the gyroscopic effect you were talking about.

However do not get side tracked by the inductance... It only accounts for a small portion of the power, which would be fed back to the controls.

The only problem I have with your theory, is that I've never heard of a loop antenna being made of a heavy gauge multi-strand wire. Bifilar maybe, but something as thick as car audio wire? Nope. And I defenitely see like 3 or 4 turns of some heavy gauge wire in the cutaway video.. Now, perhaps this would be ideal at such a close range to the emitters, as they are electrically larger, especially after inductance begins, and hence could be more efficient.

Regards, Rich.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #904 on: October 01, 2006, 02:35:32 PM »
Oops, got it wrong again. The corrected drawing of the torroidal architecture is still different in phase representation of the aligned winding architecture. Now this is it:

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #905 on: October 01, 2006, 03:07:23 PM »
jacob,
where in the hell did you come up with that?  what in the hell did you think that made it pertinant?

sam

Sam,

First of all, this technology originates from heaven not hell, just as anything else that is good on this planet. And questionning the pertinence of it is not understandable to me. This is just common sense! We know that tv sets contain a component that in the past created incidents based on the fact that it behaved like an uncontrolled TPU. And anyone who is remotely familiar with television technology knows that the deflection yoke must have been that component. I didn't come up with these facts: they are history. Now based on those facts, I simply explained how a deflection yoke would rotate a magnetic field. That's it! So this is very pertinent. Where is the problem with that?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #906 on: October 01, 2006, 03:11:40 PM »
... Thanks for documenting one possible configuration for me. ..

You're welcome. Glad if it helps.

Regards,

Jacob

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #907 on: October 01, 2006, 03:40:09 PM »
JACO0B,

THANKS FOR CLARIFYING, AND SORRY IF I CAME ACROSS AS THE DEVIL I JUST DIDN'T GET IT. :o  YOU DO BRING SOME PERTINENCE TO ALL OF THIS I JUST DIDN'T SEE IT AT THE TIME. THAT IS WHY I WENT TO BED.

LOL SAM

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #908 on: October 01, 2006, 03:53:24 PM »
He's actually got a pretty decent Idea for rotating the fields.
Thanks, Rich, but it's not my idea. It's just an obvious observation.

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How much of what you post is pertinent?

This is for you to decide. As of now, everything that I have posted is very straighforward and as Tao would say: "100% in line with what SM has said'.  :D  I only made of few points, namely:

1. This things operates with naturally occurring waveforms. We're not talking about noise or irregular signals. Therefore, this energy wave must be sinusoidal.

2. It has to self start. Therefore, there is no room here for circuitry that would produce elaborate waveforms, spark gaps or anything of that nature. The only know circuit that can achieve that is a resonant LC circuit. If you know of any other way, please bring it forward as it will undoubtedly be very useful in the context of this thread.

3. It operates very much like a television deflection yoke. And if you feed two different frequencies into 2 LC circuits made in a similar manner as a deflection yoke, you get a rotating field plus you combine 2 different signals into a transformer like device that, according to SM, will produce the result we are looking for.

4. I have also stated that while the kicks can be observed in a circuit when applying a square wave (enabling or interrupting current flow is like a square wave), these kicks are in my OPINION the result of a transfert of energy between the energy wave we're trying to tap into and the conductor as it passes by the frequency associated with the phenomena, a square wave containing a multitude of frequency. Once again this is only a theory on my part. However I think it makes a lot of sense.  

5. I have no idea for now what frequencies should be used. But whatever they are, they have to be consistent with what SM has said, that they are directly related to the diameter of the device.

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Also, just so you know jacob, the magnetic fields tao talked about would NOT be perpendicular to the collector. It would be parallel to it, if the control wiring were perpendicular to the collector as magnetic fields expand off of a wire radially at right angles, which would line them up parallel with an inner coil that is run perpendicular to the wire being excited.

Yes, I realize that. This is why I posted these drawings. But once again, if the field was parallel, it would be entirely enclosed within the torroid and would not serve much of a purpose. Plus, it would be completely inconsistent with how a deflection yoke operates. I am sorry, but the deflection yoke is pivotal here. It has to be. Once again if you have an other theory to bring forward as to why these tv sets imploded, please do so.

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Jacob

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #909 on: October 01, 2006, 04:14:57 PM »
Hello Marco,

hi :)

so how come you talk like you know 4 sure how it works?

I don 't know all about it. I am just transposing in practical form what SM has said about the rotating field.

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maybe you can post a diagram of the real thing.

Just did. Connect capacitors to the coils shown, make this circuit resonant at the correct frequencies (no idea what they are for now), feed back the output from the collector to these tuned circuits, then add some sort of control circuit to prevent the device from tuning in too precisely, and you're in business.

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im a bit diffrent..... im just TESTING ALL possabillities to see what comes out cause when you know almost nothing you can do two things....
talk about what might happen in the device or go one and build stuff so you can actually see what happens.
that for me is the way to go.
sure there will be much failure but then again i learnd in a week more than ive learnd all those years on scool.

I agree entirely with your philosophy Marco. This is how discoveries are done. Keep it up!

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you seem to have a good idea to the device so build it and bring it on.

I will, Marco. But it's not possible for now because of reasons you could not possibly imagine. In the meantime, I am just trying to contribute as best as I can

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Jacob

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #910 on: October 01, 2006, 04:21:41 PM »
JACO0B,

THANKS FOR CLARIFYING, AND SORRY IF I CAME ACROSS AS THE DEVIL I JUST DIDN'T GET IT. :o  YOU DO BRING SOME PERTINENCE TO ALL OF THIS I JUST DIDN'T SEE IT AT THE TIME. THAT IS WHY I WENT TO BED.

LOL SAM

No offense Sam!  :D

Regards,

Jacob

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #911 on: October 01, 2006, 05:14:10 PM »
The next step has definately taken place. It consists of haves and have nots. Those that have done and those have not.
A line has been drawn in the sand and 'Let those without Toroids cast the first stone'.

The most pertinent so far:
Tao release a diagram depicting the coil layouts.
Marcos has done an experiment that produced kicks from 2 frequencies. Great coil, guy!
CTGlabs now has done two experiments the produce sound. Has done an extreme amount of work!
CTGlabs has a biphase controller that is out of phase by 90 degrees.
giantkiller has 2 coils. It's me so I won't ponticate vainly.
giantkiller has a biphase controller that phase shifts harmonically by frequency and direction.
JDo300 built a coil. Another great step into producing something!
Otto built a coil but his image links did show on the post. Please put a pix in your avatar here?
And alot of postings about phased overlapping fields, kicks.
Also alot of flies in the ointment...
If I missed anybody, I apologize.

In my next post will explain better search techniques that far surpass this engines shortcomings.


There is nothing new under the sun...

http://www.totse.com/en/fringe/free_energy/moray2.html

Excerpt from that page, But read the whole thing for Moray was killed aslo:
It is generally accepted now by science, and Dr. Moray's device proves, THERE IS ENERGY COMING FROM SOMEWHERE, that the EARTH IS SURROUNDED BY SUCH A FIELD OF ENERGY. (see ZPE1 & TACHYON1 & TACHYON2 on KeelyNet)

This energy, or as Dr. Moray explained - these oscillations of Energy, are picked up by the device through the oscillators, or neutron bombardment.

As stated, these surgings or oscillations of Energy coming and going as the waves of the sea; are picked up by the Moray Device because the Moray Device is TUNED TO OSCILLATE IN HARMONY WITH THE OSCILLATIONS OF THE UNIVERSE. Every oscillation, whether large or small, is completed during the same interval of time.

The beat note of time, the heart beats of life, the oscillations of the Universe all prove the same great fact - that oscillations are all governed by the same cycle of time, completed during the same interval of time, and as I stated before, these waves of energy have a REGULAR BEAT NOTE of time, coming and going as the waves of the sea, but in a VERY DEFINITE MATHEMATICAL ORDER OF TIME, coming to the earth FROM EVERY DIRECTION with a regular BEAT NOTE that might be referred to as the Father of Time, the Sire of Gravitation.

(Note that Keely said that Gravity is Time, if one could control gravity, one could also CONTROL TIME.)

This energy has a DEFINITE ELASTIC RIGIDITY and DENSITY, which is subject to displacement and strains.

(Recall Keely's etheric vapor with various densities based on the order of vibration which was applied to disrupt water. Lower levels such as molecular yielded a taffy like substance, while higher levels such as atomic yielded a vapor or a gas and in its highest form, an electrical type current transmissible through a wire.)

When the strain is removed, this medium will spring to its old position AND BEYOND, surging back and forth as the waves of the sea, and will continue to oscillate until the original pressure is used up.

If the internal impedance is too great, there will be no oscillations, but it will merely slide back in a dead beat to its unrestrained state.

Cutting down the RESISTANCE TO THE MINIMUM and by SYNCHRONOUS ACTIONS of the device WITH the actions of the Universe, RECOVERY WILL BE QUICKER and quicker until inertia will assert itself and lengthen out the time of final recovery by carrying the RECOIL BEYOND THE NATURAL OSCILLATION and thus prolonging the vibrations by oscillation.

When the recovery is distinctly oscillatory AND HARMONICS SET IN, the oscillations will GO ON FOREVER because they are in tune with the oscillations of the Universe.

As I said, these electric oscillations ARE NOT SIMPLE OSCILLATIONS, but surgings with a DEFINITE BEAT NOTE of the evolution of matter and the evolution of energy.

It is not claimed that all of Dr. Moray's theories are proven, but it is claimed that the device works. The results are certain and that in the absence of better explanation as given in the 1931 edition of "Beyond the Light Rays," Dr. Moray's explanation is as good as any.

In explaining this theory in 1929 to a well-known and noted American Scientist, he remarked, "You go in your theory BACK of the Law of Gravitation."

We may readily take it for granted that a perpetual light, like perpetual motion, is an impossibility. I say that because I do not believe in perpetual light or motion, which, in a sense, is one and the same thing as getting something for nothing.

In this day and age it is not well to say anything is impossible, but getting something for nothing goes beyond my conception of thought.

What I have done in Radiant Energy has been and is perhaps righfully called "radical." Nevertheless, of the great number of learned men who have seen and heard of my work, not one has been able to disprove my claims, theories or discoveries.


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #912 on: October 01, 2006, 05:28:52 PM »
At the bottom of each Overunity webpage there is a tabs set.
We are going to focus on the Print tab.
Hit it. The process reads the whole Thread.
Then do a 'File save as'.
Choose a directory and let it work.
Do this everday with the same save name.
It saves the whole thread to your pc.
Go to explorer, find the saved file and click.
click anywhere in the doco and press ctrl-end.
press ctrl-f.
example enter post by:
click the 'up' direction radio selector.
And you will find what you are looking for quite easily.
Unfortunately there are no post page numbers.
And when you find the post you want, simply highlite some of the first paragraph of the text and go back over to Overunity and start a search using the magnifying glass with that and probably a 'by user:'.
Pick the meesage that matches the date time and click. Boom, you are there.
Now you can write a book.

Ta-da! 8)


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #913 on: October 01, 2006, 05:39:03 PM »
Also another great research instruct is:
Get another monitor for your pc. This is invaluable. Overunity on one, text search on another or another browser running.
With another graphic card under Win2k or XP just plug it in and goto to video settings and play with what works best.
I have a 19" and 17" monitor and now the navigation that I do is more towards where I need to go quickly than navigating through overlapping pages.
The bottom line is when someone reports something, don't lose your place. Just goto the other screen and do a search. It's up!

Ciao...

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #914 on: October 01, 2006, 06:02:51 PM »
but we have 3 collector coils and each has (in your setup) 4 segments.
it didnt take long for me to see  that the control wiring was difficult to connect 4 segments  on 3 coils.

Marco, we have 2 segments each made up of 2 coils. We can connect 1 collector coil on each one of these segments. That leaves us with 1 unused collector coil. Just what we need.

Regards,

Jacob