Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark" (Read 1243147 times)

giantkiller · « **Reply #780 on:** September 28, 2006, 01:41:28 AM »

@supersam
My design on page 219 will get the numbers you are seeing from your frame of reference. Go to the links on the page and play with the lissajous numbers. This might give you a visual for some of the things you are thinking about.
And by the way... Good thinking, keep it up. Reality was born from dreams.

@CTGlabs
Could you please tell what page was Tao's drawing on.

To all,
When you look at the square waves and the kick, it only appears from square waves. That is because the falling edge is very high frequency. Above 40k the magnetic waves emminate and don't return. Power sends them farther and faster. The kick is the tranmission of energy and the snap when the lines of flux leave the source. One could tune an am radio to the frequency of the square wave and hear noise. Obviously. Hope I am not preaching to the choir.

Comes a time in one's life when they make the courageous decision where they approach the edge with fear and trepidation, led to crossover the precipace by cause into a new vista of adventures only to find later that the step they took caused them not to fall but have reality rise up to meet them at their new height!

If you stay within your boundaries, you will never see what is possible.

Dingus Mungus · « **Reply #781 on:** September 28, 2006, 02:03:57 AM »

Quote from: Mannix on September 28, 2006, 01:36:53 AM

Hi all,
It is really great to see more "hands on" activity here.
It may be relevant to convey the importance of the relationship between the resonances/wire lengths of the control/collector coils.
I think of it a a rotational magnetic reciever.
Some of the tests that I have carried on the coiols that have visible control windings indicate frequencies in the megahertz range which would make pc scopes un usable ...I could be wrong...we will see. We are Searching for a rotational Kicking field.that can be accelerated by applying harmonics
This could take a while. It is unconventional. Sharing results..even failures will help every body. Sharing limitations will slow everybody down.
It would be great if more those who seem to have a clear understanding would do some winding to confirm their expectations.
Perhaps Luck will come into it
I remember a fellow who said "The more I work and act the more luck I seem to get"

Cheers to All.
Lindsay Mannix

Hello Mannix good to see you here again!

I was wondering if Mr Marks explained or could explain the effects he observed in the vacuum tubes and ways of replicating those effects to help us understand the nature of these 'kicks'. I figure it would be a good starting point for myself and perhaps others. Any information he or you could share about this would be greatly appreciated as it will not relate directly to the now patented device, but will allow us experimenting students observe a single cycle of the 'kick' phenomenon.

gn0stik · « **Reply #782 on:** September 28, 2006, 02:36:52 AM »

Quote from: ctglabs on September 28, 2006, 12:34:51 AM

Ok, guys, can we get back some work now!

I have wound "one layer" of the SM devices as per Taos drawing. This is 10 turns of 2mm wire, 18 cm in diameter. This then has 4 bifilar coils wound on it. Later I can wind another two of these, stack them and then wind a final coil around all of them. But for now I wish to test the 90 degree coil interact and rotating field properties and look for a "kick", also as per our anonymous poster, I can use 4 transistors and use the bifilar coils to have collector and control windings which self oscillate and the collector of one will trigger the next. This way the thing finds its own resonance and will build up by itself as SM says, like a turbine.

So if I were to stack three of these the transistors can be hidden inbetween the windings (SM small device has no external parts, its all hidden in the torroid).

Regards,

Dave.

Dave, very nice, so, I see you've applied all the aspects of what we've talked about thus far. I'm anxious to see some scope shots with the windings the way they are. I want to ask a million questions already but your data posts usually answer all the ones I feel like asking. So you have the "trigger" winding, as the anonymous poster called it leading to the "power" on the next winding? The shot is too close to see how those windings are connected to one another, but from your description that seems to be the case..

Quote from: ctglabs on September 28, 2006, 12:43:41 AM

Sam,

I never told you to shut up. From my point of view, I have to work from the bottom up, start simple, test, make observation, add to working theory, then add to design and start the loop again.

I cannot jump around adding crazy and random things, I must work in a logical direction based on test results and observation.

Perhaps later (if you explain your secret numbers) there maybe a relevance later. But SM discovered the Kicks in a "vacuum tube", not with coils and secret numbers. He later used this effect from the vacuum tube and applied it to a coil structure.

I too cannot stop thinking about these things, I spend most of my spare time reading and learning and experimenting, I have done since I was a kid, I then went on to college to study electronics, since I left college, 12 years ago, I have been studying further and experimenting for years looking for free energy. In this time I have only seen two devices which break the accepted laws of physics, but they are not OU, for that I am still looking. It can sound exciting, but in reality it takes dedication alot of time and alot of disappointment.

Regards,

Dave.

May I ask which devices you saw that defied the accepted laws? And which laws they seemed to break? (not being fecetious, just curious)

Quote from: Mannix on September 28, 2006, 01:36:53 AM

Hi all,
It is really great to see more "hands on" activity here.
It may be relevant to convey the importance of the relationship between the resonances/wire lengths of the control/collector coils.
I think of it a a rotational magnetic reciever.
Some of the tests that I have carried on the coiols that have visible control windings indicate frequencies in the megahertz range which would make pc scopes un usable ...I could be wrong...we will see. We are Searching for a rotational Kicking field.that can be accelerated by applying harmonics
This could take a while. It is unconventional. Sharing results..even failures will help every body. Sharing limitations will slow everybody down.
It would be great if more those who seem to have a clear understanding would do some winding to confirm their expectations.
Perhaps Luck will come into it
I remember a fellow who said "The more I work and act the more luck I seem to get"

Cheers to All.
Lindsay Mannix

WB Lindsay, Good to see you again. It would be great if I could participate more. I need proper testing equipment, and it's just not in the budget right now. Perhaps I can swing it soon when some money comes in. I would use the pc scope, but the power it will accept is limited, and the frequency range it works with would be likewise limited. I might use it for a crude signal gen though for some applications, just not this one. My current electronics tool kit includes some soldering irons, some multimeters, and a crapload of spare parts and wire. Believe me its painful to not be able to test this stuff quantitatively. I have wound several coils and sat there and looked at them, frustrated, that that's as far as I could take it.

@Sam, sorry I got a little hot around the collar earlier. It's just that we asked you to form something that fits into what we already have, or give us some reason to think it would help us and you didn't. We just couldn't use the information, and you weren't taking the hints. You seemed positive it was applicable, yet provided us with nothing that fit in with anything we were talking about.

It felt like we were having a discussion about politics and someone kept piping in with JESUS SAVES!!!

To which the only response is, "perhaps, but what's that got to do with what we're talking about?" We honestly tried to say it nicely. And then you got cocky.

Again, I apologize for being so harsh, but I saw no other way.

Now:

BACK TO IT>>

GREAT work Dave! Keep it up!

energyman8 · « **Reply #783 on:** September 28, 2006, 07:32:10 AM »

Hello All,

I don't mean to "butt" in here, however; in reference to the Golden Ratio,

I am almost certain,

but can't fully explain how,

it is part of the "solution"

I will go back to lurking now and I thank you all for all the awesome visuals and ideas here.

If I discover or am informed of the significance I shall share it with you all for I believe it is a hint that Steorn gave everyone.

Regards,

Eman8

dutchy1966 · « **Reply #784 on:** September 28, 2006, 12:51:17 PM »

Hi everyone,

I've been folowwing this thread silently but like to share something....
I would like to hear your thoughts about this:
Could it be that Stevens device uses scalar waves (creted out of colliding magnetic pulses) and that they are somehow converted to electricity, according to the statement below, especially the bit about placing a strong magnet near antenna strikes some similarity....

Scalar field detection by normal RF antennas
Even though a scalar wave train does not contain the regular EM components that are used by radio frequency communications, it can still be detected by a normal RF antenna, if that antenna is in the presence of some other static magnetic field. When the scalar wave train passes through, it will create a disturbance in the field surrounding that magnet and make the field lines move, which will impart a small electrical current in the standard RF antenna, as if the magnet itself were moved.

Since all normal RF antennas are immersed in the magnetic field of the planet, they can serve as crude scalar detectors, though the reception will be extremely weak and washed out by any normal RF in the vicinity. Detection ability is greatly increased by enclosing the antenna and circuitry in a faraday cage, and by placing a very strong magnet near the antenna inside the cage.

Any chance this might get us any further?

regards Dutchy

otto · « **Reply #785 on:** September 28, 2006, 01:52:52 PM »

Hello all,

do you know why SM has to place two magnets on top of his TPU to start it?

He has 2 reed relays (that one with only 1 contact) at the output of 2 oscillators in his TPU. With the one reed relay he activates one frequency and with the other reed relay the other frequency. Now I?m sure his TPU works with only 2 different frequencies and that means that the oscillator is always ON. I belief he uses a resonator or quarz circuit to get a low signal and this signal is amplified.

Regards

Otto

otto · « **Reply #786 on:** September 28, 2006, 02:42:42 PM »

Hi all
ctglabs

I know why the TPU stopps!
When you turn it in the wrong direction (180?) all control coils are acting in wrong direction. In an earlier post I mentioned that you must find out how to conect the oscillator on to say so 1 coil because if you connect wrong, you will have NO output. Or, to say in other way, the magnetic field must always go from the lower coil up to the top and then out in the air. A little difficult for me to explain

Regards

Otto

jacob · « **Reply #787 on:** September 28, 2006, 05:07:44 PM »

Hello to all!

Like many others, I have been following this thread silently for a while and have now decided to step in and contribute to this great challenge of replicating SM's TPU. I have lots of ideas to contribute on the project and will release them one by one as time goes by. But I want to start by thanking Lyndsay Mannix for starting this thread and of course Steven Marks for revealing EVERYTHING we need to know in order to build this device. I also want to thank all of you who have contributed to this thead so far. When I got past page 40 of this thread, I tought that everything important had been said, but kept on reading anyhow. And I was glad to see that somewhere around page 170, things began to pick up and experimentation started to replace theory. The way this is going, I can confidently predict that before the end of the year, thanks to this collective effort, SM TPU WILL HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY REPRODUCED!

Before going any further, I would however like so clarify one point which, although not directly linked with the technical aspect, is of prime importance:

Quote from: gn0stik on September 28, 2006, 02:36:52 AM

It felt like we were having a discussion about politics and someone kept piping in with JESUS SAVES!!!

To which the only response is, "perhaps, but what's that got to do with what we're talking about?"

What has is got do do? Very simple! Theocracy is the ultimate form of government. Man cannot govern himself because corruption keeps creeping in from everywhere. Our presence here is a clear evidence of this since we wouldn't have to seek for the truth if it wasn't for the fact that some people don't want free energy device to become a reality on this planet since it would threaten their own balance of power.

Now, let's go back to the technical aspect ... I don't have much time this morning, but would however like to comment on this post from Otto:

Quote from: otto on September 28, 2006, 01:52:52 PM

do you know why SM has to place two magnets on top of his TPU to start it?

He has 2 reed relays (that one with only 1 contact) at the output of 2 oscillators in his TPU. With the one reed relay he activates one frequency and with the other reed relay the other frequency. Now I?m sure his TPU works with only 2 different frequencies and that means that the oscillator is always ON. I belief he uses a resonator or quarz circuit to get a low signal and this signal is amplified.

I personnally dont believe that reed switches are involved here. First, it would complicate the design of the device since it would be far easier to insert a toggle switch than a reed switch and a magnet receptacle. I think that the answer is more in tune with an earlier post (#1050) made by Dave in which he confirms that a magnet placed near a bifilar coil in a transistor circuit changes the frequency of the oscillations. Steven's device is probably set up so that placing the magnet near a winding bring the resonant frequency to the desired value. Could be also that the magnet creates a circulator for the flow of the magnetic flux like someone else suggested earlier.

On the other hand, Otto is most certainly right when he says that the TPU works with only 2 different frequencies. This is made clear just by looking at the control unit of the larger TPU. But there is certainly no crystal involved here. Just a simple resonant circuit. Just remember that SM said that his unit was in a sense very similar to a radio receiver and that the signal didn't need to be amplified. Only a tuned resonant circuit can be involved here. Or two to be more precise.

I have lots of stuff to say about the kicks and the rotating magnetic field, but my time is up for now. Talk to you all later...

Regards,

Jacob.

Dingus Mungus · « **Reply #788 on:** September 28, 2006, 05:41:05 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on September 28, 2006, 02:06:06 PM

So, this takes us back to the vacuum tube. Two signals of the same frequency but out of phase? We must focus on this vacuum tube kick. Once we find this kick, surely the path forward will be alot clearer?

I fully agree... If someone can explain how we can observe and measure this primary kick phenomenon, I will also be joining in on this experiment. I must stress though that it would be most beneficial if Mannix or Marks could explain this step, as it doesn't relate to the UEC's patent and may help one of us find the kick frequencies solution, but if everyone just buys a couple vacuum tubes and starts playing with frequencies our chances of accidentally discovering this 'kick' phenomenon are poor at best. I do hope they can give us this very tiny demonstration of the kick...

Dingus Mungus · « **Reply #789 on:** September 28, 2006, 07:34:12 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on September 28, 2006, 05:48:44 PM

I did try some experimenting with a vacuum tube the other week and I burnt it out, quite expensive to experiment with!

Not sure if relevant but this measuring coil has a coil rapped in a torroid and the end then travels round inside itself. So we have the collector and control coil setup, but in series. Perhaps then they are able to interact at 90 degrees in someway. This coil is supposed to be very sensistive, so perhaps this plays a role?

So called Rogowski coil I think, use in Tokamak reactor.

Regards,

Dave.

Hmmmm interesting...
http://www.tesla-coil.com/Rogowski.htm
look at bottom graph data...

shadow · « **Reply #790 on:** September 28, 2006, 07:42:33 PM »

Hallo zusammen,

ich habe hier einen interessanten Beitrag zu einem Nachbau von Hans Coler?s Magnetstromapparat gefunden:
http://www.klarblicker.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=843&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=492a90ffd7ffa897048a83c6a91bf302

Der Autor Nebirosh beschreibt hier einige Messungen die er an seinem nicht gegl?ckten Nachbau gemacht hat.
Interessant ist auch Seite 2, wo er von unerkl?rlichen Nadelspitzen zu den Kondensatoren spricht.
Sind dass vielleicht die Kicks wonach wir hier suchen?

Sorry, leider alles in Deutsch...

bluedemon · « **Reply #791 on:** September 28, 2006, 08:25:21 PM »

Here is what babblefish translates it to:

Hello together, I found an interesting contribution here to a reproduction of Hans Coler's magnet current apparatus: http://www.klarblicker.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=843&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=492a90ffd7ffa897048a83c6a91bf302 The author Nebirosh describes here some measurements which it at his not successful reproduction made. Interesting also page is 2, where it speaks from unexplainable needle tips to the condensers. Perhaps that are the Kicks according to which we search here? Sorry, unfortunately everything into German...

dutchy1966 · « **Reply #792 on:** September 28, 2006, 08:27:14 PM »

Quote from: shadow on September 28, 2006, 07:42:33 PM

Hallo zusammen,

ich habe hier einen interessanten Beitrag zu einem Nachbau von Hans Coler?s Magnetstromapparat gefunden:
http://www.klarblicker.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=843&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=492a90ffd7ffa897048a83c6a91bf302

Der Autor Nebirosh beschreibt hier einige Messungen die er an seinem nicht gegl?ckten Nachbau gemacht hat.
Interessant ist auch Seite 2, wo er von unerkl?rlichen Nadelspitzen zu den Kondensatoren spricht.
Sind dass vielleicht die Kicks wonach wir hier suchen?

Hello everyone,

I've found an interesting part from a replication attempt of the Hans Coler Magnetcurrentmachine:
http://www.klarblicker.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=843&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=492a90ffd7ffa897048a83c6a91bf302

The author Nebirosh describes some measurements that he made on his failed replication.
Interesting is page 2, where he describes unknown spikes at the condensators.
Are these maybe the Kicks that we are looking for?

Regards Dutchy

dutchy1966 · « **Reply #793 on:** September 28, 2006, 08:54:26 PM »

Quote from: ctglabs on September 28, 2006, 08:29:48 PM

I can see something in the above which reminds me of something in nature. They recently confirmed on satellite these mystery super waves in the ocean, there are about 30 per month somewhere across the ocean. These waves are very high and very powerful and were thought to be seadog's rumours! But now they have been confirmed and they are created by seperate small waves mixing from different directions in the sea. When the right "wavelengths" mix, these waves join to create a very large wave which IS GREATER THAN THE SUM OF THE SMALLER WAVES. The resulting wave is devasting and I think remains unexplained. There was a documentary where they tried to re-create the effect in a massive tank inside a hanger, I believe they triggered a massive wave which blew the roof off.

SM says with these out of phase waves and multiple frequencys "All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a much larger kick at the output"

Does this sound like the electrical equivalent of the monster wave at sea?

It certainly sounds like it could be the electric equivalent.
Maybe we should focus our attention more at the out of phase transformers. According to stevens quote he found something in there that is the basis of his invention. (the combination of frquencies that cause the BIG kick he speakes about is my guess).
Dave, do you have more info about that documentary? Maybe there is something in there about how they created that monsterwave (e.g. frequencies/amplitudes/rotational directions).

regards Dutchy

giantkiller · « **Reply #794 on:** September 28, 2006, 09:32:18 PM »

I did post some numbers and effects using multiple coils way back in Sept 2006.
overunity.com The international free energy research forum > Electronic solid states setups > Special coil-magnet setups > Tesla's rotating magnetic field generator
I really don't know if that was the first. But the Kick looks to be a magnetic version of a Tesla coil effect, high frequency field generation. I personally feel It doesn't matter what part of the spectrum one works in there are different effects based upon a similar exercises of frequencies and power.
If you quantify Earth as Fzero, then a base frequency of F1 with a power factor of P1, then add a second frequency of F2 with a power factor of P2, as the interference patterns change one would see marked variable effects. Hutchison does this albeit not to well controlled. I have stated this before and believe me this is not new nor my thesis. This is where I am headed with the information from this site. Across the number of experiments posted here there numerous answers to create products or effects beneficial to mankind. The last 75 pages have gone from 'A wire', to added components, to loops, to screaming little toroids, to handsize toroids with more measured effect, to combinatorial permutations of thinking and hardware. The coils that JDo300, CTGlabs, and I built in the beginning are in waiting for the next answer to become a viable device in the chain of experiment. No matter what you've seen in the world, Tesla coils, UFOs, in science fiction, new devices, they are frequency based. I contend that any new frequency based device will be some sort of Tesla coil. The SMs are Tesla coils folded into themselves. That still holds true to the basic tenant that a Tesla coil is not a standalone device but more of a model for multifrequency modulation against any heavenly body or atomic structure. and since we know space is not a void then there is the potential for frequency control. Don't just think about it, dream big! and for God's sake don't stop!
My hat is off to all the potential here.
I would really like to take an Magnetic resonancy imaging ring and turn it on either side. Now that is some power! That would make Hutchison jealous as all get out. And what would any one think of the screaming ferrite bead experiment as a topically applied pain cessation device or some kind of tumor control device or swallowed in some hermitic form to be a weight loss additive, Or used in dog training / control or pest control or a small levitation toy or a musical instrument or electronic fish bait or shark deterent?
GO,GO,GO,GO,GO on and on and on and on. Somebody here is bound to make their mark on society, or we come up with the answer and all meet up in Caracas for lunch.

Ciao for now...

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