I only measure DC and just for control I switch short to AC but nothing on AC just DC. I did not connect the pyramide frame to the ground jet. I will use a seperate ground rod outside any building to avoid influence.
after TT's explanation the voltage should start rising within a feww minutes you dont have to wait hours if nothing happen in the first 10 minutes.

Thats clear, effect should be on DC I was just curious what is to see on AC scale. When the effect actually disappears in your case? Moving it 1 mm off center or 1cm? or you see it always and in center is much more. When you move converter a bit can you see changes immediately on DVm or it take time to build up? Hope I dont ask too much.
Maybe I should try sand from IKEA or other sand at the moment using quartz sand SiO₂ from a glass factory. Also my stand where converter hangs is also not that convenient to set it is actually a stand for vine bottles.

I did not mention yet, few days ago I visited a nice guy who has 4x4m outside pyramid for few years. He is using it only for healing purposes. He never heard of using pyr for making electricity but was interested to hear about TT story. His pyr has wooden frame and is covered with aluminum sheets and of course has north orientation. Height I dont know but from context I understood it has ratio as Egyptian pyr. People that came to him got some help from diseases lying in it but also some got noting. He was surprised that I build frame from iron saying iron attracts energy to itself and such construction is never used for healing. He said there are two types of radiation one from ground and one from space. Earth radiation is bad and not desired! Healing comes from space, space radiation=good. He confirmed water not freezing in pyr and clearly changed vine taste(to softer). Also that water from pyr boils in 10min in comparing to normal water which does it in 20min. Then discussion went to esoterism. I got small alum pyr from him for sharpening razor blades. He is shaving daily with one blade for over 1 year. Blade became already a bit rusty but he said it is still good.

Merry Christmas to everybody,
MT

Quote from: pese on December 24, 2007, 11:34:33 AM

Quote from: duff on December 24, 2007, 05:16:12 AM

Quote from: magpower on December 24, 2007, 04:41:14 AM

Duff

Thats something we don't really know for sure air or solid dielectric for the caps. I did back off on the screw and have set to 940pf right now. I used paper to keep plates flat. I will adjust it slowly each day and watch for changes. The only thing that I haven't used is 2mm graphic rods, but using pencil, I thought I would see a volt or so. I think if everyone trys something a little different we might get it. As for ground using my house ground. One thing I did notice if I bring my hand close to center cap the meter jumps up to 150mv or more, but did not touch it, so seems its picking up something. On DC I get nothing?

Sorry but I believe TT specifies an air dielectric.

Perhaps our German friends confirm this from sketch 3:
jeweil 1mm Plotten LUFT

Google translates as: Jeweil 1mm plotting - distance air

 

jeweils 1mm Plattenabstand 

in each case 1 mm of record distance  (plate to plate)

LUFT = Air between the plates.

not use dielectricums !

Pese

Thanks Pese
I will change this over in the next few days, any idea of what the value might be close to. And should the output be AC or DC ?


Magpow

i think :
the cap is not an part of LC resonance circuit. 
so the cap.value will not be important .

the cap is an part of "antenna" OR:
an cap to have DC as output  (if the Oszillator will cones as an "funcion" of coil , tubings grafit.
I think , NOTHING have to do with our understanding from Elektronics or physics.
It?s will be come from "aetherics sciense , so as Dr.Reich have found somes. Also as Joe was in
experience with his "Cells"  (Joe-Cell).

It shown all " excentriic , unbelivibel , but i think, we will lear , with an open mind.

- sorry my "low-knowledges " in english-

Pese

P.S.
OUTPUT will be , in any way DC.

As load you can use also an bulb (from flash (no LED!)
so you see .
if your DMM can and will not work with
AC from high frequency (to be shure in any way)

Possibly the Gypsum walls from 2,3 or 4 sides are necessary.
possibly the radiation will be focussing in the middel (to converter).
Remember that hubbard an Moray have also "forced" small power
to "high" power with very small "radiating" -NUC- sources.

This "sources" are not open - or even surpressed , because
free energy is not wanted , if you will "earn money"



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 compared.jpg   I know this is a older version but looks like the 2 inside rods are connected together.  And on real picture you can see the copper tube, just maybe connecting to frame, which would make more sense. First will change my center cap to air dielectric and go from there. I hope Thomas comes back !!

Happy Holidays
Magpow

I have been following this topic for a long time now and I just had a thought.  I am working over at the earth batteries topic and have achieved 1.8 vdc from just two electrodes placed in the earth.  Seems to be more than this device thus far.  But, what if I were to place a pyramid shape over my electrodes?  Would my volts go up?  I have a 5 foot spacing between electrodes at this point so the pyramid would be fairly large.  What do you guys think?  Worth trying?  There IS something to the pyramid shape with out any doubt.  Why or what is anyone's guess.  I have read a lot about this phenomenon and all says basically the same.  What this device is calling for speaks of galvanic action and so does the earth batteries but, as in this case as well, there is much more than just that going on.  Keep up all of your great efforts here.  If there is anything to this I know you guys will figure it out.  Merry Christmas to all.

Bill

Bill,

Being that the effects seem to occur approx 1/3 of the distance between the base and apex I'm not sure how you could work that into your earth battery unless maybe you imbedded part of the pyramid in the earth.


-Duff

@Tinu. sorry you feel that all your work has been in vain. Before you give up totally, Why nottry a couple of things. Have you done any tests outside? [not easy at this time of year. ] An idea that keeps coming to me, is to replace the graphite and sand with 2 small zinc carbon cells inside the copper to replace the galvanic cell My hope is to get more power out than in. The best set up would be one new cell and one partially discharged. the negative of each cell is connected to the copper and the positives to the coils. I cant try it myself until after Xmass.
                If we can confirm ANY strange effect happening inside the pyramid but not outside, then we may be onto something. All I will say about the subject you ask for comments on is this.
 You will not necessarily learn much about free energy from this, but believe me, you will learn a lot about human nature.

I?ve done a lot of things in the last weeks. (At least three cores, different adjustments and tests in almost every imaginable condition around those indicated.) No outside tests indeed, due to bad weather (-7 to -10 Celsius here) and other difficulties (pyramid size and weight) but this should not be a problem as the original device is running indoor.

The bottom line is that me, like many others, spent a lot of passion & efforts on ?what?! Let me be very clear: on exactly 3 pictures (are there any others?! Make me believe that you have a running V6 and not one lousy photo of it!), on one movie that by now any one of us can easily re-make it (especially with those two wires getting into the ?voltmeter?, hmmm!) and on a lot of sound promises that proved to be just empty words! (I?m not sure how many are familiar with the value of a promise in German culture ? this is very bad!)
Further on: basic information lacks or, even worst they are contradictory (see the pyramid center description versus original photos). No replies to messages and to e-mails. No hello, no goodbye, no nothing from the ?inventor?. Instead we were served plenty of donuts and cheap stories? Finally and most importantly: no independent builder could report success! (I guess that hundreds of devices were built by now.)

I?ve tried to be as forthcoming as I could be but in the last couple of days I start believing that I was too credulous. Sorry, but I begin to doubt that the device ever run as advertised. TT did not owe something to us at the beginning but by now I really believe he does owe us at least some good explanations. As about V12 package ? how many still believe it will ever come?

Have a merry Christmas everyone,
Tinu

@georgemay.Regarding the open tube on the photo. I think this is a short separate piece of tubing attached to the front of the standard copper tube frame. Its lower end would be just above or perhaps behind the blue object. We can only guess at its purpose, but i thank its purpose is to hide the reed switch operated by the magnet. Any better ideas.
               Whilst I have not yet written off the device altogether, I too am having difficulty understanding the mind of TT. If he encouraged us to build this, knowing that it would not work, what was it exactly that he hoped to gain. It is not as if he charged us all 10 Euro for the plans. If he had, then at least I would understand. In fact he has gained absolutely nothing of value at all. Does he really want to be remembered as the guy who encouraged us to waste tons of steel, square Kilometres of gypsum board, Kilometres of copper pipe and wire, and mountains of sand and graphite? Hows that going to help save the planet? If indeed it can work, when is he going to show us how. He says he is not trying to sell us some religion, and he is not the Messiah. But this is like waiting for the second coming of Christ. Still maybe I should be more patient . It is not Christmas yet for ^ hours..

Perhaps everyone missed some clues from TT himself. Reread please his post #76 ( http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,695.msg59766.html#msg59766 ) specially part about Wasseradern.  Those are also mentioned in Morray experiments as well as with Stublefield's and also mentioned in several writings about installers of telegraph lines. 
George

@Pese

Wasseradern - Water Veins or underground rivers.

Is this the correct translation?

Does it have anything to do with an areas water table or is it only related to rivers?


-Duff

Can anyone conntact TT?